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peak base neo is enough i think considering he's basically has stored chaos energy on his body.
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Iirc, like multiversal to vaguely higher D, so I'm guessing 5D for high end, which I think is pretty legit
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I do wonder if one could legit argue that Metal's Super forms dont actually scale to Infinite timelines and whatnot.
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IMO this is one of the reasons why certain characters just don’t really work in Death Battle. Take Arceus for example, his body shape means that any fight he’s in is just gonna be a bunch of ranged energy attacks. I know people used to have him fight Beerus for his matchup but what fight choreography could you do for both that wouldn’t be bland or boring.
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Okay so DAU Cell has El Hermano scaling so I genuinely think he would stomp Metal Sonic which is in all honesty peak
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The Chaos Emeralds canonically do make Super forms vary in power, VSBW scales Metal Overlord to the absolute peak of them but you can argue he doesn't. Although going by Bowser vs Eggman they didn't treat it like that, they seemed to have treated it as a consistent set boost so if they continue with that then we very well may just see the low end universal stuff used to dunk on canon Cell and then they'll bring up how the higher end multiversal+ stuff dunks on Toei Cell.
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Yep makes sense
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Yeah, and since DB claims to look at characters at their peak, that seemingly should confirm they'd look Metal at peak then too?
Lowkey I kinda do not like that All 7 Chaos Emeralds automatically make everyone 2-A/T1. Macguffins in general being used by someone to reach X AP is technically not guaranteed to scale for everyone who would use macguffin as well, there should be evidence for it. Its a slippery slope that makes everything power creep really fast. As much as I am Sonic fan Id be fine to be cautious with peak scaling.
Ofc other part of me knows that DB accepts way more questionable stuff so **** it ig :V
Lowkey I kinda do not like that All 7 Chaos Emeralds automatically make everyone 2-A/T1. Macguffins in general being used by someone to reach X AP is technically not guaranteed to scale for everyone who would use macguffin as well, there should be evidence for it. Its a slippery slope that makes everything power creep really fast. As much as I am Sonic fan Id be fine to be cautious with peak scaling.
Ofc other part of me knows that DB accepts way more questionable stuff so **** it ig :V
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This describes a good majority of the franchise's writing tbh
Also JJK may end up being the most influential modern anime in terms of bringing awareness to battleboarding
Like it's crazy how a power scaling has exploded since JJK got popular
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Just realised, Metal Sonic is likely gonna be the only member of the 2-2 club ain't he?
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ALL HAIL SHAAAAADOOOOW
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Ngl it's funny. Evol has the most blatant on screen universal stuff
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DBZ Kai Upgrade (3-B/3-A Cell)
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I doubt that goes through, but Toei Cell has more direct reliable statements and Toei has way more stellar AOE feats Cell scales to that back up his rating.DBZ Kai Upgrade (3-B/3-A Cell)
(Just to make it more clear, this CRT is based off the Kai/DBS Anime continuity of Dragon Ball, NOT the manga or Toei continuities) In Dragon Ball Z Kai Cell is stated twice to be capable of destroying the universe, with the first instance being originally from the manga and the second being...vsbattles.com
Given I'm assuming Death Battle is composting anime and manga, then Cell will probably get some black box high uni scaling
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It doesn't help that none of thoses matchups are practically good.
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Do we even have Dragon Ball Kia profiles? I feel like that's something that'd be useful to have.DBZ Kai Upgrade (3-B/3-A Cell)
(Just to make it more clear, this CRT is based off the Kai/DBS Anime continuity of Dragon Ball, NOT the manga or Toei continuities) In Dragon Ball Z Kai Cell is stated twice to be capable of destroying the universe, with the first instance being originally from the manga and the second being...
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hes the blade of sonic. People want to see more of him but we never getting him back
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im pretty sure death battle is already biased against sonic. They made up excuses to why the tim eater wouldnt work on bowser that just dosent hold up
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eggman empire agenda continues
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I constantly see people bring up all the crazy stuff Bowser and his equipment can do, as if his modus operandi isn’t always just, “Punch hard; and if it doesn’t work, punch harder.” Like, even as Dreamy and Castle Bowser, even while having the fabric of reality at his very fingertips, he still defaulted to generic fireballs and sharp objects.
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OPM has more popularity and view draws even if s3 was ass
This exists too
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what are you talking about
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His ass is joining Batman, im gonna make sure of it no matter what
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Funny enough is actually really debatable ( cosmic Garou is the definition of outside help and shouldn’t be allowed )I guess this is the
Garou mu we're getting
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definitely, Kazuya stomps most his alts or get stomped (Iori if you buy the cosmic stuff) plus you can have proper escalation between the two characters that are heavy martial artists
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Although Death Battle may not view it that way cosmic garou and true devil kazuya is debatable for stats
Did they have this one in particular suggested? Also idk if opm after S3 was even as popular anymore or viewed, it gotten the lowest scores on various websites and clowned by youtubers or criticized heavily, like Nicholas and Chibi
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yes the researchers like the mu , while s3 is ass OPM is still popular esp in the vs scene still
Cosmic Garou would've been considered if he fought cell, there's not many big name mu for Garou left that would require Cosmic Garou
for Kazuya they ain't using cosmic
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What does True Devil Kazuya have scaling to that would make stats debatable against Cosmic Garou?
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A lot of people watched it ( it was the most anticipated anime in the season), but it also made a LOT of anime only people either drop the series for good or move to the manga.
Regardless OPM fans are in general way more invested in powerscaling than the norm, kinda like DBZ fans.
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