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Well Bats unironically KO'd Cheetah so they errmmm achtually downplayed the Jonkler :^)
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Dude, we are actually entering "Batman characters other than Clayface can beat Spider-Man characters" era. We are SO ******.
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TBF Jonkler won via hax and a non-standard mech
G1 still had Spider Man>Batman chars in stats
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They did make Jongular faster.
And there is no scenario where giving him Nth Metal Mech is not dumb lol
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Raiden supposedly may have MFTL speed due to calcs on how his slow down on things as fast as light and such are perceived
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Why are we acting like you need to be faster than light to deal with street tiers 
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I mean Raiden needs it for his dura neg to matterWhy are we acting like you need to be faster than light to deal with street tiers
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You're about to see Massively FTL Raiden today... probably.
There's also 1 way to get Massively FTL+ Raiden but apparently it's too complicated so it'll be done later
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Wolverine shouldn't have the speed disadvantage anymore, a few months back he went blow for blow with a bloodlusted Spider man and won almost killing him, in the 2nd issue of their Spiderman & Wolverine 2025 run.
I don't know if Wolverine got the Muramasa blade in that DB but he has had it around for years, it's made from his soul, and would help with healing negation, it has killed/nullifies Lady Deathstrike who has a cyborg/tech healing factor, it pierces/cuts Adamantium and cut S.H.I.V.A on the molecular level.
Just saw the MFTL Raiden lol...
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Cuz people love to put them at these speeds, especially death battleWhy are we acting like you need to be faster than light to deal with street tiers
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The one who does the CRT is notorious of taking eons to release them, I heard before it was suppose along other stats and haxes to be out soon and that was long ago in 2025, yet here we are
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It shouldn't take long until it's ready, it's pretty far into development. Said it's only at typos now.
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I dont believe it till I see it, cuz again they take eons to do any
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"Green Goblin vs Joker? Well, this should be an easy win for Norman-"
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Batscap: I do think Cap has the stat advantage, but Bat probably makes up for it with tech and shit. I feel Batman loses in a straight 1v1.
DPDS: Unless external weapons and forms are included for Deathstroke, I don't think he has much that could permanently put down Deadpool, especially with Deadpool being much more versatile honestly.
WolvieRaiden: This one still holds up imo.
HulkDoomsday: Heavily debatable ngl, especially with the amount of bullshit current Hulk has. I do think it's likely that Hulk could outlast Doomsday so I'd lean a bit more to hulk.
18Carol: This one is weird, considering Carol is in that weird category of "sub-heralds" where she's definitely cosmic, but not on the level of guys like Thor etc. Ig it sorta depends on where you feel Carol would scale, but given current wiki standards, Android 18 should win.
ShredderSS: Dunno about either
ThorWW: In terms of base, I feel Thor is generally higher on the heralds scaling chain and way more versatile in hax. But if we include higher forms, I do think Dian ultimately outclasses Thor with her Anti-Crisis self.
StrangeFate: Idk much about either ngl.
CarnageLucy: This one holds up fairly well even if Carnage was heavily downplayed in speed.
ThanosDarkseid: I lean more towards Darkseid just purely because of Darkseid's range being too much for the IG.
HulkBroly: Hulk should've won, I don't feel I need to explain why by this point.
SCZatanna: Not too knowledgeable about either ngl, but I suppose the explanations made sense.
AdamApocalypse: Not too deep into both, but from what I've seen, Apocalypse definitely outclasses Black Adam in hax and versatility by far.
StitchRocket: Idc for this one ngl.
GRSpawn: This one is fine even though they kinda downlayed Ghost Rider's soul hax.
BladeBuffy: Not knowledgeable on either but made sense ig.
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Pretty sure with current standards Thanos has very good arguments to win. Namely because he can just pull a HulkZilla and boot Darkseid from the universe via sealing, a strategy he explicitly employs when fighting abstract avatars
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For the Mahvel list, yeah these arent ones that are blatantly wrong, its the ones I think one could have at least some arguments for other one winning.
I am biased on you know which ones, but I kinda hate higher Ds and "more real" scaling so I just vaguely so pre-S8 DB logic on them.
I am biased on you know which ones, but I kinda hate higher Ds and "more real" scaling so I just vaguely so pre-S8 DB logic on them.
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Most of the Espada can really only get to cosmic levels if you scale them to the Kido Cannon from Memories Of Nobody, but I don't think the Wiki accepts that feat or even has a calc for it.
The only possible exception is Grimmjow due to TYBW feats and Novel shenanigans, but that's also pretty heavily disputed.
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So, like the script they wrote, it really came down to GrimGoat
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Its crazy how DC only had 3 losses to non marvel characters and just one was a herald losing, meanwhile marvel had far more plenty, also weird how we had so much marvel characters last year, yet nothing for DC besides the simon one
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DC's non-Mahvel WL record is 10-3. Marvel's non-DeeCee WL record is 10-13-1. Eeyup.
Tbh, sometimes characters just dont have MUs, even if they are notable. DC when compared to Marvel, seems to have less solid MUs.
Tbh, sometimes characters just dont have MUs, even if they are notable. DC when compared to Marvel, seems to have less solid MUs.
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DC should give its wins to Pokemon i think
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Yet death battle still done generic ones
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BowserEggman beat GvS3 in views :VVV
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Sonic fans when it's time to not be funny:BowserEggman beat GvS3 in views :VVV
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Enjoy your last days in the wiki, you are already getting banned in the RVR
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This is funny but I think it's less crazy than how they scaled his speed. That one really had me scratching my head.I feel like at a certain point you really got to look inward and realize how absolutely insane statements like this sound. Does anyone unironically believe that Joker is punching people with the force of 848 tons of TNT? Or that Batman's durability is half of what the Little Boy nuclear warhead's tonnage is? Street tier comic characters really are the clearest example of powerscaling brainrot because they require you to believe that characters that get threatened by guns are actually fast enough to react to light and can punch hard enough to destroy entire towns.
Per the show's rules, I doubt Wonder Woman would get her Anti-Crisis form- it's the epitome of "non-standard".
I know everyone is sick of Marvel and complaints about them losing, but they surprisingly do more often than you'd think. I'm just realizing that now that you put those numbers up.
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I keep forgetting how much motion this episode had / still has, funny turtle dad and funny egg dad really brings in the numbersBowserEggman beat GvS3 in views :VVV
Sean's getting banned again?
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Based on a quick look, seems to be either a 'lengthy ban' or just a straight up permanent one.
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First I've heard of it.
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Asura vs Jagganoth save us
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I cant see the imgur stuff you posted
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It still feels insane that Spawn won. Let's be real, this wasn't Spawn vs Ghost Rider, it was Spawn vs Zarathos, and that makes it even crazier that he managed to win despite being weaker by an infinite INFINITE amount. Not complaining though, all for an Image W.
Which is probably never going to happen again once the Invincible MUs run out of fuel....
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Same here, the BS much had been so great that even imgur couldn't believe what it saw
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You know DB is going to take the show as prescendent in MUs, thats not an Imahe property anymore that's an AMC property on LIFE SUPPORTNo..... there is still one option left
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