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Empathy manipulation is a sub-section of Mind Manipulation. In fact Babadi's control can qualify as empathetic manipulation since it specifically targets the evil in a person's heart (something which Buu at the time had)
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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tbf that's from having a trained mind/being Frieza
Buu has neither of those, though you could argue Grand Supreme Kai should have it
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Speed
Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed. The speed at which an attack moves. For...
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Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed.
this is exactly what ryuko has
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1. She does not have a time limit. Even before if was canonized, her time limit was eliminated after she attained true synchronization, to the point that it's directly stated in the show that she can function at peak capacity indefinitely on just a single drop of her blood.
2. That weakness no longer exists with IFs canonization. In IF her regeneration evolved by stealing the primordial life fibers powers. She is now able to regenerate from total physical annihilation as long as a single Strang of life fibers exists at any point in space and time across the infinite multiverse, in the past, present, and or future. Along with this, she is able to regenerate from damage that would normally nullify her regeneration.
He doesn't have superior speed nor would his time manipulation affect her
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Ryuko has an equal cosmology, is equal to shadow in speed, and his hax wouldnt be able to kill her
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See my previous comment. Nothing you just said is correct
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None of the hax in his arsenal can kill her though, he would need to simultenaously erase all life fibers within the multiverse from existence in the past, present, and future across infinite universes with an infinite number of timelines per universe.
And seeing as she has complete and total control over the flow of time just by existing as well as being completely unaffected by the collapse of time itself, on top of transcending space-time in its entirety, I see no reason why it would affect her.
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Hey Weekly, you like KLK, thoughts on Nonon vs Soundwave?
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Speed
Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed. The speed at which an attack moves. For...
Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed.
this is exactly what ryuko has
I don't really care about the debate, but this something i would like to note regarding this specific point
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and scans of this m8
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Main Continuity Sonic scaling in the wiki is quite outdated in every single era, ESPECIALLY Classic Era.
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Ye, Ryuko is able to travel through higher order spatial dimensions
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And for reference, the 'core' they referred to is Satsuki's ambition, not a physical core that could be destroyed
Edit:
58:38 confirming that Ryuko has the same powers as the Primordial Life Fiber
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You'll never guess what he did to Solaris. Again, no scans
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Thunderman101
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You keep saying equal cosmology. Prove it, sonic is 6d possibly 7
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Once again, he killed Solaris by destroying him in the past, present and future, granted that was with the others help but he's gotten far stronger since then
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You have no scans for the second part
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Guess who else shadow beat who has complete control over time by Just existing.
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THis proves nothingSpeed
Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed. The speed at which an attack moves. For...
Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed.
this is exactly what ryuko has
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Seriously if yall are going to continue the argument can ya limit it to one actual post for all the comments instead of splitting every comment among several disjointed posts. It's both inefficient, spams notifications, and I think just wastes space on the discussion thread
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Ok, but as I said earlier I do not want to debate
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Thunderman101
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And once again I want proof that ryuko has 6-7 d cosmology other than you saying trust me bro. All the proof I have for shadow is on the wiki because people actually care to update his profile
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That is a false equivalency mon frere. Just because he beat a time manipulator does not mean he automatically beats everyone who has time manipulation. Especially when he needed help to do so in Solaris' case and has no feats of doing so on his own.
Satsuki was controlling time with her subconscious will (For reference, she rewrote her own past so rather than being defeated, she got a massive power boost and new super form instead)
Completely fine after Satsuki collapses the timeline
Life Fibers transcend space and time
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Look at these youngins not knowing the holy rule of double posting smfh
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also been here for way longer smh
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Well older here ig
I saw you mention your age elsewhere, Im older than you fr tho
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Who is the other one?
Steel Spine Pun
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Gyro Zeppeli
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I know who the jojo one is, meant the opponent
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I think that's someone from the band Steam Powered Giraffe
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Based on a quick search, it's The Spine from the band Steam Powered Giraffe
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Even so, it proves shadow has resistance to time naipilation, Solaris was going to collapse all of time and space, all timelines and dimensions, and then shadow sonic and silver beat him while he was like that and buffer. And shadow has gotten stronger since then. It’s like power creep in the sense that current yamacha would dogwalk namek freiza
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And your example for immeasurable speed only applies for travel speed, combat and reaction speed are also needed so ryuko could keep up with shadow without touching him wt best
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Also characters have used chaos control to multiply themselves so
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