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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Alright, DB Wiki seems to count Wild mons and Trainer mons as having same score, so here is a very big question.

Does Bulbasaur's & Squirtle's losses count for Venusaur & Blastoise? They are part of same evo tree, and Im pretty sure if Kid Goku won, he'd get counted as a W for Goku too. So should it count for the two Pokes?
 
So in the end, the King of Games bested the World Champion.

Just watched it the fight and it left a bittersweet taste, given two of my childhood heroes went at it and one had to fall. But I'm really happy there was respect thrown around and it ended in a uplfting note all things considered.

I think the battle was pretty good, solid in most regards, but if I had to be nitpicky, wish there had been more banter between Yugi/Atem and Ash. You know, little stuff like Yugi/Atem complimenting Ash's unpredictability and improvisation, Ash getting excited at the challenge of Yugi/Atem's neverending plans, both agreeing on how much they trust their partners. Cheesy? Yeah, but it would be in character and remind us why we admired these two so many years ago.

The only other thing is that a lot of emphasis was made on how unpredictable Ash can be and how Yugi can come with complex strategies and dismantle his opponent by simply playing his pieces very well, yet that didn't come up very much in the fight itself. Yugi using more spells and traps to work around Ash's offensive and Ash simply turning tables with off the wall plans could have been a fun way to play on this, though I am aware there were likely time and budget limitations, so I'm being greedy here. But, if I get to be greedy, like Weekly mentioned in his hypothetical ending, I would have also preferred a final clash. Something like, Yugi uses Magic Cylinder to turn the tables and wipe out Ash's team, but Pikachu is still standing (Yugi could have reflected Solgaleo's Sunsteel Strike for example), then Ash goes for a the Z-Move in a final effort against Horathky, after the clash Yugi compliments Ash and Ash gets some final words, something very Ash-like, like he had a blast in the battle, then Yugi gives his signature farewell thumbs-up.

Yeh, I dunno, maybe I got a bit too nostalgic because of this =P
 
Also I realized, them using star scaling for yugioh monsters opens the door for some crazy scaling even for low level monsters

Case in point, Galaxy Eyes Cloudragon

 
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Also I realized, them using star scaling for yugioh monsters opens the door for some crazy scaling even for low level monsters

Case in point, Galaxy Eyes Cloudragon

isnt zexal beyond isnt part of the trio? altho galaxy eyes series should be galaxy level by default
 
isnt zexal beyond isnt part of the trio? altho galaxy eyes series should be galaxy level by default
The yugioh timeline is weird but not exactly. The timeline sorta splits after 5Ds due to time travel shenanigans, but they still all take place in the same overarching multiverse. It's also sorta covered in Bonds Bayond Time, where it's confirmed that yugioh runs off of the logic of 'every decision made by everyone ever causes a branch in the timeline'.
 
Also I realized, them using star scaling for yugioh monsters opens the door for some crazy scaling even for low level monsters

Case in point, Galaxy Eyes Cloudragon

Would this mean that insanity from Duel Terminal and Bravely Xenoblade Default Chonicles World Legacy are also fair game?
 
God this shit sucked. They just blatantly wanted Pokemon to lose. Gengar somehow being trapped despite Ghost types being immune to it, Squirtle's Rapid Spin not just instantly destroying all Trap Cards, Snivy's Attract not being an instant wincon, Ash not destroying the Duel Disc, all of Ash's mind resistance being ignored, Ash's Pokemon somehow not being able to do what they've done a million times and dodge their own attack reflected at them.

This is the most disrespectful shit they've ever done to Pokemon since Red VS Tai... and before that Thor vs 100 Pikachus.
 
God this shit sucked. They just blatantly wanted Pokemon to lose. Gengar somehow being trapped despite Ghost types being immune to it, Squirtle's Rapid Spin not just instantly destroying all Trap Cards, Snivy's Attract not being an instant wincon, Ash not destroying the Duel Disc, all of Ash's mind resistance being ignored, Ash's Pokemon somehow not being able to do what they've done a million times and dodge their own attack reflected at them.

This is the most disrespectful shit they've ever done to Pokemon since Red VS Tai... and before that Thor vs 100 Pikachus.
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Gengar somehow being trapped despite Ghost types being immune to it
Ghost types aren't immune to psychics, they are just notably effective against them. In fact they literally have no form of special defense against them

Squirtle's Rapid Spin not just instantly destroying all Trap Cards
Not how rapid spin works, it removes binding effects and entry hazards the user has, Yugi's field doesn't count (also does it even work like that in the anime?). Plus Yugi has cards that can just counter that

Snivy's Attract not being an instant wincon
Attract only works on other monsters and Yugi's strongest monsters are either ambiguously genderless or straight up female. In no way is it a instant wincon when the actual gamechanger of his strongest card is by default immune

Ash not destroying the Duel Disc, all of Ash's mind resistance being ignored
Literally both were adressed

Ash's Pokemon somehow not being able to do what they've done a million times and dodge their own attack reflected at them.
"Man, why didn't they just dodge the giant nuke that covered the entire area?" Regardless magic cylinders goes straight to the owner of the monster, aka Ash so that's an irrelevant statement

This is the most disrespectful shit they've ever done to Pokemon since Red VS Tai... and before that Thor vs 100 Pikachus.
Nah this shit put respect on the name, it's just that one literally has a monster infinitely stronger than everything on the other side combined + far more versatility
 
Episode was a solid 9/10. Fourth best episode of the season behind Bowsegg, SpawnRider, and DanteClive.

Shit actually made me sad when Pikachu kinda of looked sad at the end there and I was like damn this sweet ten year old kid and his little buddy are about to fcking die and people are gonna celebrate it 😭😓

I have had gripes about fights feeling less like fights and more like carnival rides or theme park attractions, but in this instance I think it works due to just how much shit each side has to play with.

There wasn't any crazy choreography, the posing and animation felt super stiff and jank at times, but it kinda felt endearing. It reminded me of early Death Battle when it still had that arcadey early 2010's YouTube feel to it.

Track is godly, this season has had plenty of great tracks. Overall, good season finale, much better than Galatcus vs Unicron and Gogeta vs Vegito.
 
Ghost types aren't immune to psychics, they are just notably effective against them. In fact they literally have no form of special defense against them
That's not what I said.
Not how rapid spin works, it removes binding effects and entry hazards the user has, Yugi's field doesn't count (also does it even work like that in the anime?). Plus Yugi has cards that can just counter that
Yes, it sure does remove things that affect the user.
Attract only works on other monsters and Yugi's strongest monsters are either ambiguously genderless or straight up female. In no way is it a instant wincon when the actual gamechanger of his strongest card is by default immune
All of Yugi's monsters are male but Dark Magician Girl.
Literally both were adressed
"erm they wouldn't work" sure is airtight.
"Man, why didn't they just dodge the giant nuke that covered the entire area?" Regardless magic cylinders goes straight to the owner of the monster, aka Ash so that's an irrelevant statement
Which they can do. And Ash can tank his strongest Pokemon's attacks as well, nor does he have Life Points to take away.
Nah this shit put respect on the name, it's just that one literally has a monster infinitely stronger than everything on the other side combined + far more versatility
Meanwhile Yu-Gi-Oh fans afterward: "LOOOL WE SHITSTOMPED POKEMON"
 
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