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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

 
Are the beasts original characters or are they based on mythological creatures like the Servants are based on historical and folklorical individuals? Tiamat would be one or she's another type of entity entirely? I'm curious as well, who are the Grand Servants of each class?
The beasts are usually real mythical figures but there are exceptions like Kiara. Known beasts are Goetia, Tiamat, Kama, Kiara Sessyoin, Camazotz, Cath Palug, Koyanskaya, Mother Harlot, Beast 666, U Ulga Marie, and Space Ereshkigal
 
Are the beasts original characters or are they based on mythological creatures like the Servants are based on historical and folklorical individuals? Tiamat would be one or she's another type of entity entirely? I'm curious as well, who are the Grand Servants of each class?
When it comes to Fate, it's a little of column A and a little of column B. Several of the known Beast class spirits are based on actual historical and mythological figures, but just Fate's version of them. Beings like Goetia, Camazotz, Kama and Nero are based on the real life legends (Especially Nero since Proper Human History Nero had people thinking he was the antichrist while he was alive, which also might be why Fate Nero has two different Beast versions) but then there's Fate Originals that are classified as Beasts like Kiara, and some spoiler characters. If you're curious here's the current list of known ones

But also yeah, like everyone else has posted before me has said as well :V

As for the Grands we don't actually really know who the current ones are. All we know are the ones that used to be Grands but stepped down to help us as we can't normally summon them, or ones that would qualify for Grands but haven't accepted the mantle for their own reasons.
 
Probably an unpopular take here, but god I'm not looking forward to Fate being on the show. It is NEVER beating the gooner allegations.
To be fair, the franchise never tried to beat the allegations.
Didnt Fate have roots as **** game of sorts? :V
Yes, and also no.

The original releases of Fate/stay night and Fate/hollow ataraxia (as well as all releases of the original Tsukihime, Tsukihime Plus Disc, and Kagetsu Tohya) were "eroge" games, which meant they had sex scenes in them. However, that does not make them "p*rn" games. The sex scenes are pretty small portions of the games. It's like the difference between a movie that has sex scenes and a pornographic film, if that makes sense.
 
My Death Battle Season predictions for 2026? thoughts
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Some are more mature, you pretend how there arent silly videos of dudes doing silly things and many with grown ass men, how often you see a woman do anything of sort
 
Even a google search says the same thing

"While men and women grow differently, different studies and observations show that females tend to demonstrate more emotional, cognitive, and social maturity than males, particularly at key life stages. Biological Maturity Biologically, females also mature faster than males."
 
My Death Battle Season predictions for 2026? thoughts
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They've almost certainly already locked in the 2026 schedule so Nero vs Geats won't be coming out next year, especially with how much research they'd have to do for both Fate and Kamen Rider. Mid to late 2027 at the earliest is my best guess for when it'll come out. Consider that despite being locked in as a match at the very end of 2023, Tom vs Wile E. didn't come out until June of 2025. Even taking into consideration the Roosterteeth shut down that still means that a confirmed matchup didn't come out until halfway this year. Then consider that Fate and KR lore and feats is massively more complicated than anything Tom or Wile E. have.
 
Where the hell does this claim that Gengar has bad luck manipulation even come from? I don't recall any battles with Gengar where it causes the opponent to have bad luck. The only example I can find is his former trainer claiming that he had bad luck all the time before he abandoned Gengar.
 
Where the hell does this claim that Gengar has bad luck manipulation even come from? I don't recall any battles with Gengar where it causes the opponent to have bad luck. The only example I can find is his former trainer claiming that he had bad luck all the time before he abandoned Gengar.
Legit from what I've seen it's that trainer's claim and it's Cursed Body ability are the only 'bad luck manipulation' claims.
 
Legit from what I've seen it's that trainer's claim and it's Cursed Body ability are the only 'bad luck manipulation' claims.
Cursed Body isn't even bad luck manipulation. It just prevents the attacker from hitting Gengar with the same move that activated Cursed Body which, ironically, only has a 30% chance to activate. So I guess you can claim that Gengar has bad luck manipulation by saying that Yugi would have to be really unlucky to activate Cursed Body on an important monster.
 
Cursed Body isn't even bad luck manipulation. It just prevents the attacker from hitting Gengar with the same move that activated Cursed Body which, ironically, only has a 30% chance to activate. So I guess you can claim that Gengar has bad luck manipulation by saying that Yugi would have to be really unlucky to activate Cursed Body on an important monster.
That's all I've heard when it comes to Gengar's stuff, so I dunno. As someone coming into this with only a slight Yugi bias all the pro-Ash arguments really fall apart when you actually take a look into the actual feats they're providing. Apparently people are saying Ash even has time-manip resistance but don't elaborate even though we see him literally being de-aged alongside his team.

I will say that at least this waiting period has been a lot more interesting than our past ones. Bladuffy was pretty sparse until the episode because no-one read the Buffy novels, and Dantive was just as sparse because no-one knew what the hell Clive even scaled to. YugAsh has had lots of back and forth and discussion around it since the confirmation so I'm glad for that at least!
 
Cursed Body isn't even bad luck manipulation. It just prevents the attacker from hitting Gengar with the same move that activated Cursed Body which, ironically, only has a 30% chance to activate. So I guess you can claim that Gengar has bad luck manipulation by saying that Yugi would have to be really unlucky to activate Cursed Body on an important monster.
The funny thing too is given how featless it is, it can only really be argued that Gengar's luck manip is baseline, whereas the Millennium Puzzle grants good luck proportional to how dire the situation is. And thats not even taking into account yugi just having straight up probability manipulation on top of luck.
 
When it comes to Fate, it's a little of column A and a little of column B. Several of the known Beast class spirits are based on actual historical and mythological figures, but just Fate's version of them. Beings like Goetia, Camazotz, Kama and Nero are based on the real life legends (Especially Nero since Proper Human History Nero had people thinking he was the antichrist while he was alive, which also might be why Fate Nero has two different Beast versions) but then there's Fate Originals that are classified as Beasts like Kiara, and some spoiler characters. If you're curious here's the current list of known ones

But also yeah, like everyone else has posted before me has said as well :V

As for the Grands we don't actually really know who the current ones are. All we know are the ones that used to be Grands but stepped down to help us as we can't normally summon them, or ones that would qualify for Grands but haven't accepted the mantle for their own reasons.
Heh. Awesome.

Just don't look up sodom's beast nero
Actually I did a while earlier given all the talk about it. What's the big deal about it? One has a Nero on a red dress with some draconic armor bits on arms and legs and ther's another with Nero in black armor a femme fatale-ish hair and dragon horns.
 
Actually I did a while earlier given all the talk about it. What's the big deal about it? One has a Nero on a red dress with some draconic armor bits on arms and legs and ther's another with Nero in black armor a femme fatale-ish hair and dragon horns.
So your brain blocked out the near-naked loli?
 
Thinking about it, but can Geats theoretically wish for all of Nero's powers/resistances if he wanted to?
 
Well, it somehow became one of Cell's most popular picks.

BowserEggman was that good for Metal stocks

Unironically I can see a future where 1500x Uni Cell beats single Uni Metal :V
 
Where the hell does this claim that Gengar has bad luck manipulation even come from? I don't recall any battles with Gengar where it causes the opponent to have bad luck. The only example I can find is his former trainer claiming that he had bad luck all the time before he abandoned Gengar.

It is literally just in Gengar's debut episode, where Goh hypothesises that his old trainer left him due to a supposed "bad luck curse" due to Ash having a string of unfortunate events early in the episode, but this is disproven later in the very same episode when Ash's bad luck ends pretty quickly and the "bad luck" was just a skill issue with their old trainer which they blamed on Gengar. The professor in the episode even stresses before directly showing the old trainer that it's just a theory, it's a very basic "don't jump to conclusions too quickly" moral.

It isn't even real, which makes the Ash camp trying to bring it up as a potential wincon or counter to Yugi's probability manipulation absolutely ridiculous. But in general the pro-Ash camp has a tendency to just say things without researching to see the context, or even if what was said actually happened.

And no, Cursed Body isn't bad luck. It just has a chance to disable whatever attack Gengar was hit with. It's just an ability version of the move Disable.
 
If it makes sense. I feel like pokemon people never watch yugioh
Based on my 1st post in this thread & what I've seen from a lot of pro-Ash supporters, a good majority of them don't even watch the series Ash comes from, never mind Yu-Gi-Oh. They're using stuff which only ever happened in a completely unrelated manga that doesn't even feature Ash in it to try and give him bigger cosmology numbers. (Yes I do think using manga Necrozma to try and scale the anime it has nothing in common with is asinine, why did you ask?)
 
Even a google search says the same thing

"While men and women grow differently, different studies and observations show that females tend to demonstrate more emotional, cognitive, and social maturity than males, particularly at key life stages. Biological Maturity Biologically, females also mature faster than males."
“Different studies”
Which ones?
 
They've almost certainly already locked in the 2026 schedule so Nero vs Geats won't be coming out next year, especially with how much research they'd have to do for both Fate and Kamen Rider. Mid to late 2027 at the earliest is my best guess for when it'll come out. Consider that despite being locked in as a match at the very end of 2023, Tom vs Wile E. didn't come out until June of 2025. Even taking into consideration the Roosterteeth shut down that still means that a confirmed matchup didn't come out until halfway this year. Then consider that Fate and KR lore and feats is massively more complicated than anything Tom or Wile E. have.
To be fair there was a significant conundrum in 2024 due to RoosterTeeth shutting down in march, which definitely set things back in production since ya know may seem hard to believe but DB's state was in a limbo ATT until the success of there kickstarter and officially going indie by the end of 2024. With there motors now in full motion, being indepentant they've got there ball rolling. As for the deadline I'm leaning anywhere Autumn-2026~Spring-2027. They could always pull a Hulkzilla, an they've tackled Whovian (which is just as if not more) which'd help in the research. But all of this is admittedly speculation.
 
I think I heard mention that only half of 2026 has been chosen? Tho if GeatsNero takes time, it might be 2027 ep too ngl.
 
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