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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Is goku vs sonic just a stomp for sonic by DB standards currently?
By DB standards Super Sonic is either barely on par with Battle of Gods Goku and gets stomped by current Goku, or does potentially stomp given the stuff they black boxed in Bowser vs Eggman.
 
Is goku vs sonic just a stomp for sonic by DB standards currently?
No, If we exlude Black box.

They put canon Sonic at 2-A in Bowsegg and Goku at 2-B in SuperKu. Well, they also said Broly is stronger than people who can affect entire timelines, like IZ, but they don't elaborate on that. It could be 2-A 🤷‍♂️
 
Wait like... the entire Skaven?

Damn who hated Buffy enough to get her to try and solo a Vermintide...
 
Sorry for the wall of text but I’ve been thinking about this since the Kickstarter era began and I think I’m finally able to put this into words.

I have noticed that Death Battle fans tend to not really care about the characters or source material themselves, they just care about them in a scaling sense. And sometimes they’ll start “caring” about a character simply due to powerscaling despite never consuming a single piece of media that character is in. The most egregious example is the “Kyle rayner the GOAT” posting. I guarantee you none of the people saying that even knew who he was or that he even existed until the matchup got popular.

It’s also the only community that I know of where Kyle is more well known and popular than things like LOTR and Buffy the vampire slayer. I remember the discord being like “who’s Sauron?” When Sauron vs lich king was announced. I can understand not knowing buffy, but how the **** do you not know who Sauron is?

They only like Kyle because he’s an extension of DC cosmology, and they like DC not because of its content, but because of its powerscaling potential, same with marvel. The DB community is the “powerscalers don’t actually watch/read/play what they scale” taken to the logical extreme.

The most recent development I’ve noticed is the response of the DB community to Godzilla destroys the marvel universe. Dormammu just got ******* dumpstered by Godzilla and the subreddit isn’t taking this well at all. Trying to find every reason why it doesn’t count or how the author doesn’t know powerscaling so it’s invalid and shit like that. As if the fan made show that the creators have said is fanfiction multiple times overrides the official canon. Guys, the author outright said it’s canon and there’s a bunch of evidence showing that this is a continuation of the original marvel Godzilla run. Not much you can do about that.

If Godzilla beats hulk in issue 4 next month (and given the solicitation for issue 5 it looks like it’s going to take pretty much everyone plus Godzillas vibranium weakness and a new mech described as “the most powerful machine ever made in the marvel universe” to potentially beat him) I guarantee you the butthurt and seething will be through the roof, DB fans have developed a cult like mentality and Marvel themselves disagreeing with the episode result only a couple months after it aired will cause a lot of anger. This cult like mindset has been prevalent since people got genuinely angry when people cancelled their Kickstarter pledges.

And I’m all good with this, I wanted the episode and the comic to have opposite outcomes since the beginning.

It’s quite telling how I’ve been enjoying the show a lot more the less I interact with the fanbase.
 
My own brother didn't know who sauron was and he's not even remotely a vs debater it broke something inside me when someone nearby said "not everyone is familiar with your internet stuff"
 
Well I've been told there are more then a few continity errors in the godzilla run. But ultimately it's just comic nonesense fluff like Deadpool kills the marvel universe. It's godzilla's comic so he's top dog. To me that dosen't make him scale over hulk cus hulk isn't using his greatest power same for dormonmo
 
Sorry for the wall of text but I’ve been thinking about this since the Kickstarter era began and I think I’m finally able to put this into words.

I have noticed that Death Battle fans tend to not really care about the characters or source material themselves, they just care about them in a scaling sense. And sometimes they’ll start “caring” about a character simply due to powerscaling despite never consuming a single piece of media that character is in. The most egregious example is the “Kyle rayner the GOAT” posting. I guarantee you none of the people saying that even knew who he was or that he even existed until the matchup got popular.

It’s also the only community that I know of where Kyle is more well known and popular than things like LOTR and Buffy the vampire slayer. I remember the discord being like “who’s Sauron?” When Sauron vs lich king was announced. I can understand not knowing buffy, but how the **** do you not know who Sauron is?

They only like Kyle because he’s an extension of DC cosmology, and they like DC not because of its content, but because of its powerscaling potential, same with marvel. The DB community is the “powerscalers don’t actually watch/read/play what they scale” taken to the logical extreme.

The most recent development I’ve noticed is the response of the DB community to Godzilla destroys the marvel universe. Dormammu just got ******* dumpstered by Godzilla and the subreddit isn’t taking this well at all. Trying to find every reason why it doesn’t count or how the author doesn’t know powerscaling so it’s invalid and shit like that. As if the fan made show that the creators have said is fanfiction multiple times overrides the official canon. Guys, the author outright said it’s canon and there’s a bunch of evidence showing that this is a continuation of the original marvel Godzilla run. Not much you can do about that.

If Godzilla beats hulk in issue 4 next month (and given the solicitation for issue 5 it looks like it’s going to take pretty much everyone plus Godzillas vibranium weakness and a new mech described as “the most powerful machine ever made in the marvel universe” to potentially beat him) I guarantee you the butthurt and seething will be through the roof, DB fans have developed a cult like mentality and Marvel themselves disagreeing with the episode result only a couple months after it aired will cause a lot of anger. This cult like mindset has been prevalent since people got genuinely angry when people cancelled their Kickstarter pledges.

And I’m all good with this, I wanted the episode and the comic to have opposite outcomes since the beginning.

It’s quite telling how I’ve been enjoying the show a lot more the less I interact with the fanbase.
You have to remember, the DB fanbase is mostly children and edgy teens. Trying to talk to them as a whole is like talking to a herd of hungry sheep.
 
Tbh, if DB thinks BowserEggman blackbox info was hypothetical highball/wank scenarios, its not looking good for the rodent. For what they have talked about, Solaris never reached multiversal stuff so oh my GokuBeerus punch with multipliers beats it, they gave immeasurable to Goku but not Super Sonic and Super Forms would prolly get nasty time limit too. Theyd just argue Goku survives until Sonic runs out of gas.
 
Sorry for the wall of text but I’ve been thinking about this since the Kickstarter era began and I think I’m finally able to put this into words.

I have noticed that Death Battle fans tend to not really care about the characters or source material themselves, they just care about them in a scaling sense. And sometimes they’ll start “caring” about a character simply due to powerscaling despite never consuming a single piece of media that character is in. The most egregious example is the “Kyle rayner the GOAT” posting. I guarantee you none of the people saying that even knew who he was or that he even existed until the matchup got popular.

It’s also the only community that I know of where Kyle is more well known and popular than things like LOTR and Buffy the vampire slayer. I remember the discord being like “who’s Sauron?” When Sauron vs lich king was announced. I can understand not knowing buffy, but how the **** do you not know who Sauron is?

They only like Kyle because he’s an extension of DC cosmology, and they like DC not because of its content, but because of its powerscaling potential, same with marvel. The DB community is the “powerscalers don’t actually watch/read/play what they scale” taken to the logical extreme.

The most recent development I’ve noticed is the response of the DB community to Godzilla destroys the marvel universe. Dormammu just got ******* dumpstered by Godzilla and the subreddit isn’t taking this well at all. Trying to find every reason why it doesn’t count or how the author doesn’t know powerscaling so it’s invalid and shit like that. As if the fan made show that the creators have said is fanfiction multiple times overrides the official canon. Guys, the author outright said it’s canon and there’s a bunch of evidence showing that this is a continuation of the original marvel Godzilla run. Not much you can do about that.

If Godzilla beats hulk in issue 4 next month (and given the solicitation for issue 5 it looks like it’s going to take pretty much everyone plus Godzillas vibranium weakness and a new mech described as “the most powerful machine ever made in the marvel universe” to potentially beat him) I guarantee you the butthurt and seething will be through the roof, DB fans have developed a cult like mentality and Marvel themselves disagreeing with the episode result only a couple months after it aired will cause a lot of anger. This cult like mindset has been prevalent since people got genuinely angry when people cancelled their Kickstarter pledges.

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And I’m all good with this, I wanted the episode and the comic to have opposite outcomes since the beginning.

It’s quite telling how I’ve been enjoying the show a lot more the less I interact with the fanbase.
In regards to the bold yes that's true the community mainly jerked off Kyle via he's a DC character as opposed to his actual character and most of the complaints over the outcome where's despite being debatable reeks of how dare Simon beat a DC character


And yes DB fans tend to have a cult like mentality whether it be a mu, episode quality etc as DaReaperman mentioned most of them are young so that's par the course with them
 
In regards to the Goku vs Sonic talk Ultraguy has Goku beating Sonic for now and while it's his opinion I doubt the crew think much differently
DB tends to wait a few years between run backs, when do you think the next goku match up.might be?
 
Actually hang on, VSW doesnt accept multipliers for Tier 2, because the distance between spaces is unknown. But what would be the minimum gap possible? Or is the issue we dont know what the minimum is?
 
Actually hang on, VSW doesnt accept multipliers for Tier 2, because the distance between spaces is unknown. But what would be the minimum gap possible? Or is the issue we dont know what the minimum is?
Multiples to go between tiers, then don't consider additional universes something a Multipler could add it (kinda bull once you reach 2 tbh)
 
Dragon Ball is probably the most active community in powerscaling, so a lot of standards for what a "strong" verse with multiversal soloers depends on how high DB currently scales.
 
Goku vs Sonic is kinda raw, but it will be a ******* mess.

Goku vs Sailor Moon might be classic but lol Toei

Theres probably sth else thats good, but iirc its niche shit. And like, Composite Ryu is zzzzzzzz
 
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