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Yuji vs Yujiro
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Didn't know Yujiro was a skill merchant like this. Is Baki better for Yuji to fight?
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Baki Hanma
Baki Hanma (範馬 刃牙, Hanma Baki) is the titular protagonist of the Grappler Baki franchise, with the goal of surpassing the strongest creature on Earth, his father, Yujiro Hanma with the blood of Baki's mother on his hand. Through numerous installments, he has settled himself as an incredibly...
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Can you guys explain how Yujiro would deal with Domain Expansion and Reverse Cursed Energy capable to regenerate Itadori's entire torso? Itadori took a while to use Domain Expansion especially because it is not clear if he had it before his awake of numerous Black Flashes. It is not out of character at all for him to use a domain if needed
Or well, basic dismantles, since Itadori wouldn't need the binding vows that he used against Sukuna and would be capable to use it normally
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He literally just KO Sukuna after his Domain and he only died due to Megumi rejecting him. Domains aren't insta kill
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Baki is 90% Yujiro level, and that is being disrespectful to himDidn't know Yujiro was a skill merchant like this. Is Baki better for Yuji to fight?
Baki Hanma
Baki Hanma (範馬 刃牙, Hanma Baki) is the titular protagonist of the Grappler Baki franchise, with the goal of surpassing the strongest creature on Earth, his father, Yujiro Hanma with the blood of Baki's mother on his hand. Through numerous installments, he has settled himself as an incredibly...
Less techniques sure, but same level of skill, he fought him afterall
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Yuji only needs to touch Yujiro once for dismantle to activate. Yujiro doesn't have any prior knowledge on Yuji to know he can't let him touch him a single time or he'd get sliced to pieces.
Even with the skill advantage, let's say like, Yujiro lands a 4 hit combo on Yuji, but while Yuji is getting punched, he touches Yujiro's arm and uses dismantle and boom gg's. Yuji not only has crazy endurance, but he also has RCT, Damage Reduction, and statistic amplification, so he's gonna get plenty of chances to land a single touch on Yujiro, especially since the dude only fights with his fists. He still has domain to fall back on to which Yujiro has no counters for.
Even with the skill advantage, let's say like, Yujiro lands a 4 hit combo on Yuji, but while Yuji is getting punched, he touches Yujiro's arm and uses dismantle and boom gg's. Yuji not only has crazy endurance, but he also has RCT, Damage Reduction, and statistic amplification, so he's gonna get plenty of chances to land a single touch on Yujiro, especially since the dude only fights with his fists. He still has domain to fall back on to which Yujiro has no counters for.
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Bold to say Yuji is gonna touch Yujiro's arm mid combo when Yujiro is gonna read every single move he does before he even thinks about it
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I mean.... Yujiro allows himself to get hit once he realizes you suck in martial arts
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Baki is comparable to Yujiro in skill and actually has even more explicit upscales.Didn't know Yujiro was a skill merchant like this. Is Baki better for Yuji to fight?
Baki Hanma
Baki Hanma (範馬 刃牙, Hanma Baki) is the titular protagonist of the Grappler Baki franchise, with the goal of surpassing the strongest creature on Earth, his father, Yujiro Hanma with the blood of Baki's mother on his hand. Through numerous installments, he has settled himself as an incredibly...
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Yeah, I'm all for skill slop arguments but genuinely not seeing how Yuji isn't landing his attacks. Yujiro doesn't have impressive acrobatics, Baki doesn't have much shown, I haven't read Baki but I'm doubting Yujiro's the type to evade attacks just cause.
Where is this? The only thing on page is him just saying how Baki would win in one move, he just blocks a kick from under a table and predicts again Baki would win a fight.
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Kazuma_kuwabara
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Yujiro is literally reading every move Yuji does, he never dodge if the attack is not gonna do anything, when the attack is literally one shotting him he is gonna use every single skill to dodge
0.5 Second Unconscious: It refers to the book of Tor Nørretranders. In the book, Nørretranders states that people are triggered half a second earlier than the brain orders to move. For example, a knife is flying towards some person. That person is triggered, but still unconscious. 0.5 second later the brain orders to move and the action comes. That means between when the person is triggered and when become conscious, the person is unconscious for 0.5 second and people can beat that person as much as they like for 0.5 second. It's almost an invisible moment, but Baki has achieved that skill. Baki used it against Yujiro Hanma in the last saga of the third series, but Yujiro was able to counter it with the same technique.
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Anyway, Yujiro slaps Yuji and he gets KO from the pain lol
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Touching means it's Cleave not dismantle. Yuji made Binding Vow in Shinjuku showdown so he couldn't use dismantle normally. So current situation he should be able to use normal dismantle without touching others.
Spams dismantle and deals enough damage. "Still featless"
"can't damage equal opponents with his low output CT" Proceeds to almost rip off Sukuna's leg who was obviously superior to Yuji here to some extent.
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Last I checked, Yuji is not on the level of "i can literally read your mind," skill. So nah, he ain't landing shit for shit in close quarters.
And Yujiro can gauge his strength with a glance, so he isn't going to hold back.
Yujiro can also end this fight with a single pressure point.
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His "esoteric" abilities are still punches or yuji touching him, no difference
Yuji "mid combo" trying to touch him means activating 0.5 seconds= Yujiro continues beating him mid combo even more
Skill diff, nothing more to say, you can wank Yuji all you want, he is not touching Yujiro in his whole life
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Cursed energy can cover piercing damage and I doubt that this is gonna be the first move of Yujiro, or if it's even gonna work against a boy who could resist have half his face lost against Sukuna
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Got knocked out and gets back up on next chapter with no external help. This Yuji didn't even had any RCT to heal himself nor anything. Also Pain isn't stopping him.
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Time frame of it?Got knocked out and gets back up on next chapter with no external help. This Yuji didn't even had any RCT to heal himself nor anything. Also Pain isn't stopping him.
Why Pain is not stopping him when is gonna be in more pain that he has ever experienced?
And you are sure he is even KO?
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Quanxi skill stomps not gonna lie
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Yujiro can just keep hitting him until he does a significant amount of brain damage which RCT won't be able to recover.
Yuji is primarily a hand to hand combatant, and Yujiro will read all his moves the moment he sees him. I am not convinced Yuji can physically land any hit on Yujiro since he fails to pass the baseline of skill needed to do that. Yujiro was known for not ever being touched in a fight until he met a significantly skilled opponent.
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Yujiro cannot read how strong Itadori is at all. Itadori's strenght comes mainly from cursed energy and not just physical training. At best Yujiro would be capable to read that Itadori is a superhuman being once he get his eyes on Itadori (8-C), but that's it. This would get Yujiro off guard since he had the habit to allow himself to get hit against weaker enemies, like against kid Baki
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It's ass to argue on the cell phone so I will try to make a big analysis once I get proper time
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Can you stop insulting other people's arguments and start sending the scans showing how he would counter DE's sure-hit? Yuji isn’t just going to sit around and get beaten up until he runs out of CE. If he realizes he can’t land any hits on Yujiro, he would pull out his DE. Not to mention, you also failed to address that Yuji’s blood has poison mixed in and can even be made to explode. Yujiro getting soaked in Yuji’s blood is basically him getting cooked by it.
Chapter 213 and 214. Angel fired her CT and Sukuna cooked her then Yuji started fighting Sukuna. The time wasn't isn't enough to call it a wincon for SBA rules for sure.
Send me the scan for whatever type of pain Yujiro will cause here since Yuji has shown to even get back from his Soul damaged not to mention half of his stomach cut off. Hand sliced and fingers burned. Half of his face ripped off Cleave.
You can check the scan for yourself he is literally down. Sukuna also got KO'd by Gojo's BF still got up in next chapter.
Not to mention if we take the fact Current Yuji physiology which brain recovery speed is faster due to his Death painting stuff.
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Yuji will pull out his DE if he sees Yujiro is more skilled can't handle any hits and Yujiro getting his hands bloodied by Yuji means he is cooked by the poision effects and he can also make it explode. He doesn't need to win by CQC with his skills here. He got some decent haxes. Not to mention Dismantle danmaku
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Just read it. Yuji's literally had his organs diced and rct from it. Had his body shredded by dismantle and his leg cut off as well. He also fought through the intense decaying of his body from Eso and is known overall to be resilient. We have Nobara fighting through the decay as well.
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Yuji is not immune to being knocked out and even real world martial artists know how to quickly knock someone out. Even knowing that Yuji can get up afterwards, that doesn't prevent Yujiro from continuing to batter him while he's down.
I would agree that DE is a win condition but I do not think he'll get the chance to use it. His first move will be CQC, where he'll get absolutely smoked, more than likely knocked out, and killed after that under the SBA with Yujiro wanting to kill. Not to mention I do not believe that Yuji, in-character, goes for the kill against a human opponent. Or at the very least isn't as likely to as someone like Yujiro who is an absolute monster and menace to society..
I would agree that DE is a win condition but I do not think he'll get the chance to use it. His first move will be CQC, where he'll get absolutely smoked, more than likely knocked out, and killed after that under the SBA with Yujiro wanting to kill. Not to mention I do not believe that Yuji, in-character, goes for the kill against a human opponent. Or at the very least isn't as likely to as someone like Yujiro who is an absolute monster and menace to society..
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Not only you are bringing normal poison from animals here where as CE poisoning can affect Sorcerers who should be resistance to CE and a supernatural stuff.
I'll just take it as you can't argue that's all
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Is not possible to argue in JJK fights, sorry to disappoint
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Yujiro cannot read how strong Itadori is at all. Itadori's strenght comes mainly from cursed energy and not just physical training. At best Yujiro would be capable to read that Itadori is a superhuman being once he get his eyes on Itadori (8-C, the strength he was naturally born with), but that's it. This would get Yujiro off guard since he had the habit to allow himself to get hit against weaker enemies, like against kid Baki or in other multiple cases
This would of course not be enough to put Yujiro down and he would get his guard up the next second, but this would make him be affected by cursed energy since he lacks natural resistance. And this, as well, won't make much easier for Itadori since curse effects can be resisted by natural endurace, but it would leave a definitive mark
After that, Itadori would NOT be capable to hit Yujiro at all, and the fight would take some minutes. Yujiro would prolly use the whip technique that can put the opponent in such pain that one who was considered immune to pain, Baki, couldn't resist. However, I don't think this would KO Itadori at all, it is not estabilished that it can. This is just a torture technique.
Yujiro would not be capable to put down Itadori at all. He lack feats of affecting the brain of the opponent in such dramatic way. To effect Itadori in combat you would need to make his brain look like this:
Itadori can restore his entire torso and arm with ease. There is no enough damage that Yujiro can deal to make Itadori fall, specially with the fact that even without RCT basic Cursed energy can allow someone to keep fightning even after being stabbed in the back by a katana
Eventually Itadori would realize that he does not stand much chance against Yujiro in an proper hand to hand combat, and would open his domain, making him win
This would of course not be enough to put Yujiro down and he would get his guard up the next second, but this would make him be affected by cursed energy since he lacks natural resistance. And this, as well, won't make much easier for Itadori since curse effects can be resisted by natural endurace, but it would leave a definitive mark
After that, Itadori would NOT be capable to hit Yujiro at all, and the fight would take some minutes. Yujiro would prolly use the whip technique that can put the opponent in such pain that one who was considered immune to pain, Baki, couldn't resist. However, I don't think this would KO Itadori at all, it is not estabilished that it can. This is just a torture technique.
Yujiro would not be capable to put down Itadori at all. He lack feats of affecting the brain of the opponent in such dramatic way. To effect Itadori in combat you would need to make his brain look like this:
Itadori can restore his entire torso and arm with ease. There is no enough damage that Yujiro can deal to make Itadori fall, specially with the fact that even without RCT basic Cursed energy can allow someone to keep fightning even after being stabbed in the back by a katana
Eventually Itadori would realize that he does not stand much chance against Yujiro in an proper hand to hand combat, and would open his domain, making him win
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He doesn't need to go for the kill he can just cut off his limbs ? What's stopping him from that?
Also as I mentioned Currently Yuji has absorbed Cursed womb and absorbed their powers. His brain recovery speed is faster than others while normal characters who needs around 6 months he can wake up within few minutes. I don't think he is getting knocked out to call this as wincon. Either way Yuji blood explosion and poision should work without information I don't think Yujiro would avoid those.
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This scan link does not work (at least for me), just wanted to tell you
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Yuji probably wins if Yujiro doesn't have demon back but you can't restrict it so yeah
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Fixed it
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