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Sigh, I really need to talk about Baki sometime soon. After rereading it, we need to urgently sort out some very urgent problems around the scaling, but above even that, how we take character statements and feats.
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Is NotoriuSoda making the changes? I think we all agree in:Help with ensuring greater reliability is, of course, always appreciated, EliminatorVenom.
Since nobody here was editing Doppo's page i decided to do it myself, i tried to do my best but i'm really new.Is somebody who knows what they are doing willing to apply the agreed upon changes here please?
Thanks, i just used what i got in this thread that wasn't very much, i hope Doppo's stuff is over now.Ok lots of problems lol. Most of the links are not listed or work. I can make the edits tonight as I was really busy. Afterwards we can close the thread
Also I was playing to make new keys for Doppo as well
Prime| New Grappler Baki | Son of Orge| Dou | Dou ll
As his profile is again lacking in detail
This one gonna be 7-C or Low 7-C?Son of Orge|
Soda said he's making the changes soon, so we should just wait.I reverted the edits, as they were improperly formatted and used Discord image links, in combination. Is somebody else here willing to handle it please?
Doppo Orochi
Doppo Orochi (愚地 独歩, Orochi Doppo) is a relatively important secondary character in the Baki manga series and anime, as well as the main protagonist of Baki Gaiden: Kenjin. He's considered Japan's 'martial artist god' and the living symbol of modern Karate (being referred to as the 'Sun of...vsbattles.fandom.com
I mean even tho Doppo really doesn’t do that much he still grows in strength thought out the series so I think it’s fine having them. Nah Baki characters grow in strength and there’s obviously a different between there Dou and Dou ll keys.Guys, how many times do I have to say it. Katsumi is NEVER stated to be superior to Prime Doppo. He’s only ever stated to be above MT Doppo who we’ve decided is not 7-C. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about that.
@NotoriouSoda
Do you really think a SOO key is necessary? Doppo doesn’t really do anything besides get one shot by Katsumi in that series. I feel like Dou and Dou 2 could be the same key as well.
After the fight yeah but throughout the series Doppo grows in strength throughout the series. Everyone doesDidn't Doppo grow weaker due to being heavily damaged by Yujiro and due to very old age?
Gouki and Kaku are evdence age is just a number in this series.Oh. It seems like I mixed him up with the frail ancient grandmaster. You may be correct in that case.
I wouldn't use Kaku and Gouki as an valid example as those two are mainly technique based. AiKi and Xiao-Lee both work on the principles of essentially using your opponents own strength against them.After the fight yeah but throughout the series Doppo grows in strength throughout the series. Everyone does
Also the old age isn’t an Argument as Kaku and Gouki literally exist
Doppo hasn't really gotten that old, but I personally think he got weakened post Yujiro.Didn't Doppo grow weaker due to being heavily damaged by Yujiro and due to very old age?
Gouki ap scales to the oozeki who can overpower aiki with his raw strength, Doppo's karate's technique directly correlates to his attack potency.I wouldn't use Kaku and Gouki as an valid example as those two are mainly technique based. AiKi and Xiao-Lee both work on the principles of essentially using your opponents own strength against them.
Gouki however is a better example than Kaku since he's also been shown to strike without the aid of Aiki, however his striking strength is definitely a hell of a lot lower than his lifting strength and momentum Manipulation given by Aiki.
Like Kaku himself outright stated that he was stronger in his younger years but since he's found "technique." "Strength." is irrelevant.
Yuichiro should just be stronger than Oliva since he can use the dress technique which Oliva can't properly replicate due to being not strong enough.I don't mean to derail but as this isn't a big enough deal to make its own thread about and is relevant to Prime Doppo- shouldn't Yuichiro Hanma also be 7-C via scaling to Yujiro and Prime Doppo?
Definitely without a doubt. YuichiroYuichiro should just be stronger than Oliva since he can use the dress technique which Oliva can't properly replicate due to being not strong enough.
Gouki in Baki Dou ll is actually physically 7-CI wouldn't use Kaku and Gouki as an valid example as those two are mainly technique based. AiKi and Xiao-Lee both work on the principles of essentially using your opponents own strength against them.
Gouki however is a better example than Kaku since he's also been shown to strike without the aid of Aiki, however his striking strength is definitely a hell of a lot lower than his lifting strength and momentum Manipulation given by Aiki.
Like Kaku himself outright stated that he was stronger in his younger years but since he's found "technique." "Strength." is irrelevant.
Yeah he improved a lot, dude seems like he got more durable more than anything.Gouki in Baki Dou ll is actually physically 7-C
Yeah.I’m just saying old age isn’t really an good point to use.
Well, I do not have the knowledge and evaluation skills to properly determine whether or not Doppo grew weaker. Would you and somebody knowledgeable from the opposing side of this argument be willing to explain the reasons for why you think that Doppo grew weaker or stronger over time please? I can ask for further staff help afterwards.
No we did not, the only argument for doppo getting weaker is becuase of his fight with richard filth which got debunked by Twellas and Soda.Okay. If you have already reached an agreement, that is obviously very good.
I have no idea becuase the thread got derailed, tbh. @Twellas @NotoriouSoda what are we going to do ?Okay. So have you reached a conclusion here or not then? If you have, you should preferably apply what you agreed about, so we can hopefully conclude this thread.
@Twellas @NotoriouSodaI have no idea becuase the thread got derailed, tbh. @Twellas @NotoriouSoda what are we going to do ?
Actually Soda changed his mind and Twellas doesn't not even keeps arguing, that's not the only point and not even the reason of why Soda changed his mind, so basically you are lying.No we did not, the only argument for doppo getting weaker is becuase of his fight with richard filth which got debunked by Twellas and Soda.
Everybody here reached an idea and i already explained it.Okay. So have you reached a conclusion here or not then? If you have, you should preferably apply what you agreed about, so we can hopefully conclude this thread.
ItalianGuy did not even proposed arguments or solutions during the entire Thread.I think we all agree in:
Letting Prime Doppo for Scaling simplification.
Prime Doppo being 7-C.
Yujiro's power Growing daily (He's likely gonna get more than just 1 key via future CRTs)
if this was agreed then i don't know why changes still not applied and this thread is open.
I think the Prime Doppo stuff is really done.
I am not always online so I can't just read every message, what are the proposed changes again ?Everybody here reached an idea and i already explained it.
ItalianGuy did not even proposed arguments or solutions during the entire Thread.