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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

SpecterSkater said:
Please no, I can't have them mishandling my goat a second time...
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It's still funny how cosmic scaling for Bleach was largely rejected several years ago yet now it's widely accepted thanks to the TYBW anime even though most of the cosmic feats/lore already existed prior to the anime (with the exception of S0s buffs) but the anime plus few Q&As with Kubo did help clarify certain subjects.

That said Aizen is a tricky character to use since we never see his bankai, he's more powerful than ever in TYBW but was limited to using a fraction of his powers throughout the arc and his transformations are in the FKT arc but he isn't as strong as he is in the TYBW where his powers are (mostly) sealed.

DB takes characters at their peaks but it'll take some hypotheticals to scale Aizen's "peak", that said I doubt he'll manage well against Sephiroth who (debately) can match Aizen's haxes while having the stat trinity advantage and that's not factoring Dissidia btw.

Still Bleach does deserve some major redemption on DB with updated stats and better representation of the lore/power system. That said aside from Ichigo and Aizen getting possible runbacks. Only a few Bleach characters have major draw power these days (e.g Kenny, Yoruichi, Yhwach and possibly Rukia or her brother).
 
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SpecterSkater said:
Yeah man, it's totally that you owned them in the marketplace of ideas and not that you're a known and proven liar that will never concede a point. Not everyone has the patience to argue the same point over and over again for pages against someone who's been proven to misconstrue, twist, or ignore context and writer's intent for not only Soul Eater and RWBY, but GoW: Ragnarök as well. So much so there's google docs documenting all the things you've said about this matchup for years.
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Can I see the doc? Sounds funny
 
Tipper17 said:
wasn't there country level stuff for eos Masane?
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As far as the anime goes, there aint any country level stuff as far as i remember, biggest things, are the gauntlet itself causing an a big earthquake, Masane final fight doing a beerus vs goku clash on Tokyo and desintegrating the tower as a suicide attack
 
With Hullzilla done and dusted we gotta update the list of the most immortal characters that have shown up on DB.
 
The regen list? Ig last post was in May.
  1. Dracula (Castlevania) (High-Godly)
  2. Unicron (High-Godly, however weaker avatars are Low-Mid)
  3. Ren Amamiya, Joker (High-Godly, when killed, however Mid-Low normally)
  4. Aizen (Mid-Godly)
  5. Simon (Low-Godly)
  6. Spawn (Low-Godly)
  7. Galactus (Low-Godly)
  8. Discord (Low-Godly)
  9. Bill Cipher (Low-Godly)
  10. SpongeBob (Low-Godly)
  11. Popeye (Low-Godly)
  12. Ganondorf (Low-Godly)
  13. Ben Tennyson, Alien X (Low-Godly)
  14. Kirby (High-Mid naturally, Low-Godly as Ghost Kirby)
  15. Alucard (Hellsing) (Low-Mid at Level 0, Low-High with soul reserves, Low-Godly as Post-Schrodinger Alucard)
  16. King Dedede (Low-Mid naturally, Low-Godly in Ghost form after absorbing life energy from a target)
  17. Doctor Doom (High-Mid, High overtime)
  18. Ragna the Bloodedge (Mid-High to likely High)
  19. Dio Brando (Mid as usual Part 3 DIO, High-Mid as Part 1 Vampire Dio and High Dio)
  20. Sol Badguy (Mid-High)
  21. Majin Buu (Mid-High)
  22. SpongeBob (Mid-High)
  23. Ben 10, Alien X (Mid-High)
  24. Hulk (High-Mid, Mid-High overtime)
  25. Deadpool (Mid, Mid-High overtime)
  26. Lex Luthor (Post-Flashpoint) (Low-High as Apex Predator)
  27. Carnage (Marvel Comics) (Low-High)
  28. Lobo (Low-High)
  29. Mask (Low-High)
  30. Venom (Edward Brock) (High-Mid)
  31. Iron Man Armor Model 50 (High-Mid)
  32. Wario (High-Mid)
  33. Sailor Galaxia (Manga) (At least Mid)
  34. Wolverine (Marvel Comics) (At least Mid)
  35. Captain Marvel (Mid)
  36. Jin (Mid)
  37. Silver Surfer (Low-Mid, High overtime)
  38. Madara (Low-Mid)
  39. Apocalypse (Low-Mid)
  40. Tetsuo (Mid-Low, High-Low)
  41. Black Adam (At least Mid-Low)
  42. Goku (Mid-Low)
  43. Vegeta (Mid-Low)
  44. Omni-Man (Mid-Low)
  45. Doomsday (Mid-Low did they fix this yet)
 
Tipper17 said:
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As someone who never kept up with YGO after the first season of GX seeing these stats for Yugi is just insane lol.

Pokemon ones I'm more used to since Ash's scaling has been a point of contention for a while, but still. This debate period is gonna be... well it'll be something that's for sure. At least I don't have any knowledge of it and attachment like I do Soul Eater, so I get to be a neutral party this time around.
 
TMaakkonen said:
The regen list? Ig last post was in May.
  1. Dracula (Castlevania) (High-Godly)
  2. Unicron (High-Godly, however weaker avatars are Low-Mid)
  3. Ren Amamiya, Joker (High-Godly, when killed, however Mid-Low normally)
  4. Aizen (Mid-Godly)
  5. Simon (Low-Godly)
  6. Spawn (Low-Godly)
  7. Galactus (Low-Godly)
  8. Discord (Low-Godly)
  9. Bill Cipher (Low-Godly)
  10. SpongeBob (Low-Godly)
  11. Popeye (Low-Godly)
  12. Ganondorf (Low-Godly)
  13. Ben Tennyson, Alien X (Low-Godly)
  14. Kirby (High-Mid naturally, Low-Godly as Ghost Kirby)
  15. Alucard (Hellsing) (Low-Mid at Level 0, Low-High with soul reserves, Low-Godly as Post-Schrodinger Alucard)
  16. King Dedede (Low-Mid naturally, Low-Godly in Ghost form after absorbing life energy from a target)
  17. Doctor Doom (High-Mid, High overtime)
  18. Ragna the Bloodedge (Mid-High to likely High)
  19. Dio Brando (Mid as usual Part 3 DIO, High-Mid as Part 1 Vampire Dio and High Dio)
  20. Sol Badguy (Mid-High)
  21. Majin Buu (Mid-High)
  22. SpongeBob (Mid-High)
  23. Ben 10, Alien X (Mid-High)
  24. Hulk (High-Mid, Mid-High overtime)
  25. Deadpool (Mid, Mid-High overtime)
  26. Lex Luthor (Post-Flashpoint) (Low-High as Apex Predator)
  27. Carnage (Marvel Comics) (Low-High)
  28. Lobo (Low-High)
  29. Mask (Low-High)
  30. Venom (Edward Brock) (High-Mid)
  31. Iron Man Armor Model 50 (High-Mid)
  32. Wario (High-Mid)
  33. Sailor Galaxia (Manga) (At least Mid)
  34. Wolverine (Marvel Comics) (At least Mid)
  35. Captain Marvel (Mid)
  36. Jin (Mid)
  37. Silver Surfer (Low-Mid, High overtime)
  38. Madara (Low-Mid)
  39. Apocalypse (Low-Mid)
  40. Tetsuo (Mid-Low, High-Low)
  41. Black Adam (At least Mid-Low)
  42. Goku (Mid-Low)
  43. Vegeta (Mid-Low)
  44. Omni-Man (Mid-Low)
  45. Doomsday (Mid-Low did they fix this yet)
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Simon regen is informational, so is High-Godly
 
TMaakkonen said:
The regen list? Ig last post was in May.
  1. Dracula (Castlevania) (High-Godly)
  2. Unicron (High-Godly, however weaker avatars are Low-Mid)
  3. Ren Amamiya, Joker (High-Godly, when killed, however Mid-Low normally)
  4. Aizen (Mid-Godly)
  5. Simon (Low-Godly)
  6. Spawn (Low-Godly)
  7. Galactus (Low-Godly)
  8. Discord (Low-Godly)
  9. Bill Cipher (Low-Godly)
  10. SpongeBob (Low-Godly)
  11. Popeye (Low-Godly)
  12. Ganondorf (Low-Godly)
  13. Ben Tennyson, Alien X (Low-Godly)
  14. Kirby (High-Mid naturally, Low-Godly as Ghost Kirby)
  15. Alucard (Hellsing) (Low-Mid at Level 0, Low-High with soul reserves, Low-Godly as Post-Schrodinger Alucard)
  16. King Dedede (Low-Mid naturally, Low-Godly in Ghost form after absorbing life energy from a target)
  17. Doctor Doom (High-Mid, High overtime)
  18. Ragna the Bloodedge (Mid-High to likely High)
  19. Dio Brando (Mid as usual Part 3 DIO, High-Mid as Part 1 Vampire Dio and High Dio)
  20. Sol Badguy (Mid-High)
  21. Majin Buu (Mid-High)
  22. SpongeBob (Mid-High)
  23. Ben 10, Alien X (Mid-High)
  24. Hulk (High-Mid, Mid-High overtime)
  25. Deadpool (Mid, Mid-High overtime)
  26. Lex Luthor (Post-Flashpoint) (Low-High as Apex Predator)
  27. Carnage (Marvel Comics) (Low-High)
  28. Lobo (Low-High)
  29. Mask (Low-High)
  30. Venom (Edward Brock) (High-Mid)
  31. Iron Man Armor Model 50 (High-Mid)
  32. Wario (High-Mid)
  33. Sailor Galaxia (Manga) (At least Mid)
  34. Wolverine (Marvel Comics) (At least Mid)
  35. Captain Marvel (Mid)
  36. Jin (Mid)
  37. Silver Surfer (Low-Mid, High overtime)
  38. Madara (Low-Mid)
  39. Apocalypse (Low-Mid)
  40. Tetsuo (Mid-Low, High-Low)
  41. Black Adam (At least Mid-Low)
  42. Goku (Mid-Low)
  43. Vegeta (Mid-Low)
  44. Omni-Man (Mid-Low)
  45. Doomsday (Mid-Low did they fix this yet)
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This reminds me of this thread: https://vsbattles.com/threads/death...gs-change-the-more-they-stay-the-same.155386/

(No offense meant.)
 
TMaakkonen said:
Yeah I use VSW profile regens here.

Well thats my thread sooo :V
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Yeah, hence my use of "no offense", since I was linking your thread in a reply to you....
I mostly linked it because I think it's a neat thread & that people interested in the content of your post may also be interested in that thread, which is quite relevant to this one also, being that they're both Death Battle discussions.
 
SpecterSkater said:
As someone who never kept up with YGO after the first season of GX seeing these stats for Yugi is just insane lol.

Pokemon ones I'm more used to since Ash's scaling has been a point of contention for a while, but still. This debate period is gonna be... well it'll be something that's for sure. At least I don't have any knowledge of it and attachment like I do Soul Eater, so I get to be a neutral party this time around.
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Honestly, Yugi vs Ash's waiting period may be just as fun as Bowser vs Eggman or Tom vs Wile E where its just 'Ash when Yugi uses swords of revealing light to paralyze him so Slifer just nukes him' or 'Yugi when Ash throws a log through him while he stands in place'
 
WeeklyBattles said:
The irony of Jace supporting ash. At least Yugioh cards tell you exactly what they do. Magic cards have Keywords to save space, meaning you have to memorize an entire glossary of game mechanics in order to play the game because most of the cards just don't say what they do
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And the double irony is that YGO cards nowadays have so many effects and do so many things, that players are discussing whether it would be better to use keywords like magic to save space and duel time (especially in Master Duel).
 
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