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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

In your next replies you will go again on a back and forth about it to these comments, i will tell right now, im not interested in seeing it, keep it to yourself, im bored and tired of spending my day on you being incredibly stubborn or seeing your explanations, much like specter and others said beforehand
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Like i dont think you understand the irony of using the DMC downgrades and KLK IF canonicity, two things i argued very hard about and was dismissed for just by virtue of being me making the arguments, only to have them later be accepted and widely agreed on stances just because someone else used the same exact arguments i had been making, as an argument for why people shouldnt listen to me.

I was right. You didnt listen.
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yeah, like when I make a RWBY CRT people take me seriously (Sort of, but my point is people treat me as a more reliable source)

but when Weekly does it he gets dunked on and dismissed, seems like bais to me tbh. Just saying
 
Honestly the amount of Ruby copium on YT is pretty extreme. Some people straight up want the research to be bias and bad so Ruby can win via Sundisk levels of inflation (like Bardock Vs Omni-Man) or just purposely rigging the MU for the RWBY character to win (like Yang Vs Tifa). I've read so many comments that sorta go like this "I don't care if Maka/Soul has better scaling, Ruby needs to win because I said so", "I don't care if it's inconsistent or non-canon give Ruby tier 1 scaling via DC/BB, I want the Soul Eater fans and RWBY haters to suffer!", "I don't care about accuracy, in order to repesct Monty's legacy Ruby must win, no debate!", etc.

Like it's almost cult-like tbh and not a good look (also can "certain fans" stop weaponizing the dead please? It's not even disrespectful anymore it's just a crude insult at this point). That said those who want Ruby to not only lose but to have her die a gruesome death (because possibly having her soul eaten and thus erased from existence isn't a bad enough already) are no better, like it's pretty obvious most of them don't really care about Maka/Soul let alone actually read/watched Soul Eater, they just want another reason for the RWBY franchise to get dunked on and cause further dissonance within (an already severely divided) RWBY fandom because Weiss being a victim of one of the biggest stomps on DB (at the time) wasn't enough for them.

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^Whatever the outcome of the episode, this just cements the common reaction to the RWBY fandom/hatedom.

Personally I actually don't mind who wins (tho I believe Maka/Soul are gonna take the dub) but the DB team yet again find themselves in an unenviable position with the potential of major backlash regardless who wins and they still have another contentions MU to do in the future with Aang Vs Traveler (yikes).

Maka Vs Ruby is a major legacy MU with a lot of build up and history, so some toxicity and baited breath was to be expected but jeez the waiting period and pre-fight reactions just proves the quality of the animation (renders, voicing acting, ost, etc) is the saving grace of the MU because its gotten to the point many people (mainly on YT and certain circles) have disregarded the connections, research, scaling and even the legacy, which is a shame really.

Pardon my long ass comment (again).
 
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BlackDarkness679 said:
Excuses, thats all i hear, even if you were clearing up misinformation nobody believes in your take on the two verses on how it goes, at least if there were more people siding you which isnt the case
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That sounds like a them problem to be completely honest
BlackDarkness679 said:
No they didnt also PoC had nothing to do with this, at that time PoC wasnt a thing or even in question forbthe verse

First of all, DMC3 Dante never was argued back then upon your claims as being universal or what not, the topic was on Mundus and Argosax, mainly former, you bring up unrelated shit on this and slap it over something else to save face, liar

You argued on Mundus creating a universe being 4-A, not something else you say here
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Oh you sweet summer child, you really have no idea what youre talking about
BlackDarkness679 said:
Sure they did, shadow vs ryuko had no scans or such from you used at all, liar once again
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Shadow vs Ryuko didnt use IF, but i provided info for the G1 blog and the second canonicity blog that came out
BlackDarkness679 said:
Proof of that? If it was the case, why only now thats heard about
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You'd have to convince DB to let me back into their server for me to get that. And because surprise surprise, people are leaving out context to make me look bad like always
BlackDarkness679 said:
The fact you keep claiming this over and over is a reason nobody believes you, "oh nobody debunked me, oh i read everything on them, oh i know better", gimme a break from your inflated ego
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Then stop giving me a reason to say it if you want me to stop saying it. Take the post i made a page ago about Aura skill, thus far no one has even ACKNOWLEDGED it aside from Spinorr, and Glass, who made the original debunk, had never seen this new information before, so how can you claim its debunked?
BlackDarkness679 said:
How about you stop lying, everyone here and discords saw the reddit post and what you did, you got debunked like it or not

The ammount of inflated ego here is unbelievable....you keep lying and lying and yet insist despite being wrong, on gow you have people show you lied and keep doing so, people dont trust you for this very reasons, not simply cuz you say them
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Im not lying.

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Say... I know I am sticking my nose where it doesn't belong and risking getting punched in the face for it, but I think I kind of understand when Weekly says that he hates RWBY and still passionately debates for it, and I actually believe it's not a lie. I mean, it's that feeling of geniunely "falling in love" with a work, loving what it was, but then something happens and the direction shifts or things start to decay in your eyes. You may despise the changes and the road the work has taken, but you still fondly remember the first seasons, games or whatever that made you love the work and resent how things went wrong. It's even more bitter than just disdain, it's a feeling that what you liked is being screwed over.

Of course, this is not a factual truth per se, but rather I'm trying to describe that weird feeling that festers inside you.

Yeesh, sorry if this comes as pretentious BTW.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Honestly the amount of Ruby copium on YT is pretty extreme. Some people straight up want the research to be bias and bad so Ruby can win via Sundisk levels of inflation (like Bardock Vs Omni-Man) or just purposely rigging the MU for the RWBY character to win (like Yang Vs Tifa). I've read so many comments that sorta go like this "I don't care if Maka/Soul has better scaling, Ruby needs to win because I said so", "I don't care if it's inconsistent or non-canon give Ruby tier 1 scaling via DC/BB, I want the Soul Eater fans and RWBY haters to suffer!", "I don't care about accuracy, in order to repesct Monty's legacy Ruby must win, no debate!", etc.

Like it's almost cult-like tbh and not a good look (also can "certain fans" stop weaponizing the dead please? It's not even disrespectful anymore it's just a crude insult at this point). That said those who want Ruby to not only lose but to have her die a gruesome death (because possibly having her soul eaten and thus erased from existence isn't a bad enough already) are no better, like it's pretty obvious most of them don't really care about Maka/Soul let alone actually read/watched Soul Eater, they just want another reason for the RWBY franchise to get dunked on and further dissonance within the RWBY fandom because Weiss being a victim of one of the biggest stomps on DB (at the time) wasn't enough.

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^Whatever the outcome of the episode, this just cements to common reaction to the RWBY fandom/hatedom.


Personally I actually don't mind who wins (tho I believe Maka/Soul are gonna win) but the DB team yet again find themselves in an unenviable position with the potential of major backlash regardless who wins and they still have another contentions MU to do in the future with Aang Vs Traveler (yikes).

Maka Vs Ruby is a major legacy MU with a lot of build up and history, so some toxicity and baited breath was to be expected but jeez the waiting period and pre-fight reactions just proves the quality of the animation (renders, voicing acting, ost, etc) is the saving grace of the MU because its gotten to the point many people have disregarded the connections, research, scaling and even the legacy, which is a shame really.

Pardon my long ass comment (again).,
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kinda why i have been dreading this wait

RWBY Haters everywhere dunking on a series i like (and a series that made me leave my crush alone and move on after i saw her kiss someone else when i was a teen), the series i got into thanks to Yang vs Tifa
 
TartaChocholate said:
Say... I know I am sticking my nose where it doesn't belong and risking getting punched in the face for it, but I think I kind of understand when Weekly says that he hates RWBY and still passionately debates for it, and I actually believe it's not a lie. I mean, it's that feeling of geniunely "falling in love" with a work, loving what it was, but then something happens and the direction shifts or things start to decay in your eyes. You may despise the changes and the road the work has taken, but you still fondly remember the first seasons, games or whatever that made you love the work and resent how things went wrong. It's even more bitter than just disdain, it's a feeling that what you liked is being screwed over.

Of course, this is not a factual truth per se, but rather I'm trying to describe that weird feeling that festers inside you.

Yeesh, sorry if this comes as pretentious BTW.
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Its this plus the series being heavily intertwined with memories of my past relationship with my abusive ex girlfriend. RWBY and Steven Universe are two verses i absolutely abhor interacting with because of that, and to lesser extents Doctor Who, Harry Potter, and Homestuck.
 
Tipper17 said:
Im bored anyone want to discuss what mu for Dante and Vergil run backs that makes isn't rematches?
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Are there any potential 2v2 fights they could do? I think it'd be kinda interesting to have Dante and Vergil team up to fight someone else sort of like the ending of DMC5.
 
Spinoirr said:
kinda why i have been dreading this wait

RWBY Haters everywhere dunking on a series i like (and a series that made me leave my crush alone and move on after i saw her kiss someone else when i was a teen), the series i got into thanks to Yang vs Tifa
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Honestly fans like you who can acknowledge the flaws of a franchise (both within the setting and behind close doors) yet stick around with constructive criticism as well as notice things that were done right are quite admirable and pretty rare as well. You have my respect.

After S3, I kinda knew the White Fang subplot was gonna go off the rails and eventually I dropped the show after S5/6 when it was clear the world revolved around the protags instead of the other way round plus a bunch of bad experiences with the fandom (e.g If I openly said I like Frieza in the Dragonball fandom, no-one would bat an eye yet if I were to say I liked Adam in the RWBY fandom, I would get called an "abuser" even though Frieza committed genocide yet no-one calls me a "genocider" because they know Frieza is a fictional character).

Funny enough Yang Vs Tifa also got me into RWBY too (kinda proves the fight was an ad lol!).
 
Tipper17 said:
Nah it be too much budget wise and you have to try n give both equal screen time
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Yeah, that's fair. A shame, but fair.

While I don't have any matchups really thought of, I do like the idea of Dante vs Miyamoto Musashi from Fate Grand Order.

Not the hugest similarities between the two, but both are kinda fun-loving goofball adventurers that become real monsters when the have to lock in. Musashi isn't bringing nearly as much arsenal wise, but she can probably bust out her Sword Saint summons and parry a lot of Dante's goofy weapons through swordsmanship alone.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Honestly fans like you who can acknowledge the flaws of a franchise (both within the setting and behind close doors) yet stick around with constructive criticism as well as notice things that were done right are quite admirable and pretty rare as well. You have my respect.

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After S3, I kinda knew the White Fang subplot was gonna go off the rails and eventually I dropped the show after S5/6 when it was clear the world revolved around the protags instead of the other way round plus a bunch of bad experiences with the fandom (e.g If I openly said I like Frieza in the Dragonball fandom, no-one would bat an eye yet if I were to say I liked Adam in the RWBY fandom, I would get called an "abuser" even though Frieza committed genocide yet no-one calls me a "genocider" because they know Frieza is a fictional character).

Funny enough Yang Vs Tifa also got me into RWBY too (kinda proves the fight was an ad lol!).
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Honestly I'm glad they diched the white fang plot, like it's as bad as MHA Mutant plot with Soji in the final war Arc

Like yeah sure they still have faunus racisim in the background but without any leaders of the Terrorist white Fang and the new reformist wite Fang we don't need to deal with them anymore and thank god
 
Spinoirr said:
Honestly I'm glad they diched the white fang plot, like it's as bad as MHA Mutant plot with Soji in the final war Arc

Like yeah sure they still have faunus racisim in the background but without any leaders of the Terrorist white Fang and the new reformist wite Fang we don't need to deal with them anymore and thank god
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In-universe discrimination plots are so hard to do right, and if you screw it up it's basically impossible to live down.

I'd say RWBY did the smart thing with basically abandoning it, but they then picked up the slack with making our main characters just as bad as the villains sometimes, except it's from boneheaded decisions and not outright sinister motives. And I'm not sure which is worse
 
Tipper17 said:
Im bored anyone want to discuss what mu for Dante and Vergil run backs that makes isn't rematches?
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Many people dont like it anymore, but I kinda respect Kratos vs Dante for legacy purposes.

I kinda feel like Vergil vs Meta Knight might also be fun idea, but not too weird. Dont think this one is popular either tho.
 
SpecterSkater said:
In-universe discrimination plots are so hard to do right, and if you screw it up it's basically impossible to live down.

I'd say RWBY did the smart thing with basically abandoning it, but they then picked up the slack with making our main characters just as bad as the villains sometimes, except it's from boneheaded decisions and not outright sinister motives. And I'm not sure which is worse
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*makes a plan to evaluate everyone to Vacuo under stress in under an 1 hour, It worked if it wasn't for Neo taking the lamp and Cinder ruining it
Cinder pushed Ironwood to full on paranoia that was already set up *Dude told Weiss' dad he doesn't trust anyone "for good reason" and Weiss heard that and still worked alongside Ironwood until his paranoia became too much

Last I checked Heroes being anti-authoritarian and wanting to save everyone is being a hero, even if they have flaws

Like what are you talking about?

Like I recommend checking out this positive RWBY YouTuber


 
Spinoirr said:
*makes a plan to evaluate everyone to Vacuo under stress in under an 1 hour, It worked if it wasn't for Neo taking the lamp and Cinder ruining it
Cinder pushed Ironwood to full on paranoia that was already set up *Dude told Weiss' dad he doesn't trust anyone "for good reason" and Weiss heard that and still worked alongside Ironwood until his paranoia became too much

Like what are you talking about?

Like I recommend checking out this positive RWBY YouTuber


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I'm not here to debate the writing quality of RWBY. Their plan with the Vacuo thing was bad for several reasons, such as:

Knowing Vacuo is the next spot Salem is headed to for the artifact
Vacuo's reputation as a barren, harsh desert with only one city worth of note that is nowhere near as well supplied as somewhere like Haven
Dumping a bunch of people into a desert with no shelter, which then causes panic, which then causes Grimm, which begins the Panic/Grimm cycle
The 'one-way trip' slipup which leads to people being stranded and unable to help despite them being told to have incredibly specific wording

And the entire way they treated Ironwood in Volume 7 does not make them out to be good at all. Cinder's paranoia plan worked partly because of all the lies and things RWBY and others did behind his back despite him welcoming them into Atlas with open arms, giving them lodgings, weapon upgrades, new costumes, training, etc.
 
SpecterSkater said:
I'm not here to debate the writing quality of RWBY. Their plan with the Vacuo thing was bad for several reasons, such as:

Knowing Vacuo is the next spot Salem is headed to for the artifact
Vacuo's reputation as a barren, harsh desert with only one city worth of note that is nowhere near as well supplied as somewhere like Haven
Dumping a bunch of people into a desert with no shelter, which then causes panic, which then causes Grimm, which begins the Panic/Grimm cycle
The 'one-way trip' slipup which leads to people being stranded and unable to help despite them being told to have incredibly specific wording

And the entire way they treated Ironwood in Volume 7 does not make them out to be good at all. Cinder's paranoia plan worked partly because of all the lies and things RWBY and others did behind his back despite him welcoming them into Atlas with open arms, giving them lodgings, weapon upgrades, new costumes, training, etc.
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Cough
This video does a way better job at explaining why they didn't trust Ironwood then I could
 
Spinoirr said:
Cough
This video does a way better job at explaining why they didn't trust Ironwood then I could
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I hope you can understand that I can also post a video that explains the opposite. If you see the writing as that way, that's fine. I'm not stopping you. However I... don't. The fact that the writers gave him the superpower of neurodivergence that they excuse for all his bad decisions is bad enough. Coupled with the 'he's losing his humanity with each new prosthetic' which is terrible reasoning and shitty to people with actual prosthetics.

James got hoed by the writers, it's sad but true.
 
SpecterSkater said:
I hope you can understand that I can also post a video that explains the opposite. If you see the writing as that way, that's fine. I'm not stopping you. However I... don't. The fact that the writers gave him the superpower of neurodivergence that they excuse for all his bad decisions is bad enough. Coupled with the 'he's losing his humanity with each new prosthetic' which is terrible reasoning and shitty to people with actual prosthetics.

James got hoed by the writers, it's sad but true.
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This. Just all of this.
 
AthelChan said:
its just the company, roblox just acts like steam game distribution wise. Roblox has standalone verses so it should work.
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Perhaps, yeah. I was just basing it off the precedent DB's had since saying they don't want to cover controversial series like 7 Deadly Sins

Now granted that's something I heard a little while back so its validity might be in question.
 
SpecterSkater said:
Perhaps, yeah. I was just basing it off the precedent DB's had since saying they don't want to cover controversial series like 7 Deadly Sins

Now granted that's something I heard a little while back so its validity might be in question.
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DBM might be the worst way to find roblox MUs (its just forsaken MUs) but its there, aside from that I think John EBG and John Deepwoken works
 
Spinoirr said:
*makes a plan to evaluate everyone to Vacuo under stress in under an 1 hour, It worked if it wasn't for Neo taking the lamp and Cinder ruining it
Cinder pushed Ironwood to full on paranoia that was already set up *Dude told Weiss' dad he doesn't trust anyone "for good reason" and Weiss heard that and still worked alongside Ironwood until his paranoia became too much

Last I checked Heroes being anti-authoritarian and wanting to save everyone is being a hero, even if they have flaws

Like what are you talking about?

Like I recommend checking out this positive RWBY YouTuber


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I've heard this discourse a thousand times, and I've still never heard a compelling argument that justifies a lot their decisions from Vol 7 onward.
 
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