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Barrier Vigor + higher durability says no
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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She canonically dies by beating beat to death with a wrench. A single swing from Atlas nearly knocks her out. "Higher durability" my ass. And if by "barrier vigor" you mean Ironsides, that's specifically for bullets. Something which, again, she has to activate and if it worked against non bullet based attacks then I'd think she'd have used it when Atlas killed her at the end. The very fact that both Lucy and Elizabeth have both been in scenarios where they're surrounded by big tough guys and Elizabeth just gets beat to death while Lucy slices their heads off is a pretty clear example of their physical disparity.
Edit: So in game Ironsides does work against melee but that's not mentioned in the in universe advertisement. Canonicity aside, that just makes Elizabeth look like an idiot for not using her Get Out of Jail free card at the end of the game and instead just letting herself die. Not to mention that it last only for a few seconds and--again--isn't a passive ability and needs to be activated.
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Fezzih_007
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Btw, does this Ruby have a actual fanfic that I can read, or is just a Ruby with DBS scaling?To celebrate Ruby vs Maka I made her fight my version of Ruby who's the same tier as her
Ruby vs Maka (Dragon Ball RWBY vs Soul Eater)
Speed is equal Both are 5-B Stats: Ruby scales way 1.329349904 Yottatons, higher with Gravity dust and 2.658699808 Yottatons Charged attacks Maka is 810.5 Zettatons Ruby's Aura Varies from Planet level+ up to Large Planet level at peak with Aura (Aura functions as a forcefield with a cumulative...vsbattles.com
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Found this. It's a slightly more interesting debate than you think.
Imperius Advantages
- Faster (Hypersonic vs Massively Hypersonic)
- More Versatile
- His High-End is WAY higher(5-B vs 2-C)
- Far more stamina and injury tolerance, and has regeneration
- Functionally immortal(And is combat-applicable)
- More mobile
- More Experienced
- They have the exact same range at both melee and with their respective ranged attacks
- Both scale to essentially the same skill feats
- Their Low-Ends are essentially the same tier
- LS is higher(Diablo has no ******* LS feats lol)
- Fights enemies stronger than her more often
- Is not extremely arrogant
- Far faster to use ranged options and to use her environment to her advantage.
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What does silver eyes even do?
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Against Grimm is petrifies or outright vaporizes them depending on how strong they are
Against Grimm Hybrids is causes immense agony
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skill in RWBY is more or less the same as "being able to swing X weapon"
They are as average as it can be. Maka would fold the whole verse in skill alone.
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Tell me you know nothing about either verse without telling me you know nothing about either verse lmao
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Reposting this
Ruby:
- Has been trained in combat since childhood against a variety of human and Grimm opponents, currently has roughly a decade of training and combat experience
- Personally trained by some of the best fighters on the planet over the course of her journey (Qrow, Maria, Ozpin, Harriet), and was constantly training on her own for the majority of the story
- Consistently described as being leagues above her peers in combat training at Signal
- Described by a man who has seen countless Huntsmen over hundreds of thousands of years to be exceedingly skilled and a master of wielding one of the most dangerous weapons ever designed
- Can casually look at a person's weapon, immediately deduce its capabilities and functions as well as any weaknesses, and they instantly know that person's fighting style and any flaws it has
- Stated in-verse to be a more skilled fighter than her sister, who can match two world-class assassins at the same time and read their combat patterns to the point of knowing exactly what moves they will use even when she cant see them
- Stated by Word of God to be more skilled than Velvet, who has the Takmaster-style ability to copy and replicate fighting styles and weapons just by looking at them and has dozens to hundreds of fighting styles she can use simultaneously, with it being stated that that is the level of skill Ruby and her team would all have reached by the second year at Beacon
- Currently on par with Winter, Qrow, and the Ace Ops in terms of skill, all of whom are some of the best fighters in the world
On par with Weiss in skill, who 1v1ed Batman and won in canon
- Had never been in a fight before she met Soul just before enrolling in DWMA, and has roughly 2 years of combat experience and roughly 1 year of actual training by the end of the series
- Only formally started training to wield a scythe through her own capabilities after the fight with Giriko, roughly 2/3rds of the way through the story
- Up until this point she relied entirely on Soul to perform the various combat maneuvers they used in combat due to his ability to control his movements in scythe form
- Before she started training Maka was incapable of even spinning a broomstick in her hand without fumbling it
- It is a major plot point that one of Maka's biggest insecurities up until this point was that she felt she was holding Soul back by being such a weak and unskilled weapon Meister
- Multiple people throughout the story have noted that she is bad at fighting, and she has even admitted herself that she is not a skilled fighter
- Before the final arc she was in the middle of her class in terms of measured combat ability, with Kid, BlackStar, and Kilik still being the top 3 of her class in combat skill
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Like always, don't trust him. He will overexaggerate, take out of context and do anything in his power to defend his beloved baby.
Once you watch the show, as shitty as it is, you realize not even half of what he says is true.
Once you watch the show, as shitty as it is, you realize not even half of what he says is true.
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I do try to defend Soul Eater yes, but even then theres not much to defend when compared to RWBY.
RWBY is indeed hot garbage but they do have a lot of skill feats, more than anything Maka has
Fezzih_007
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tbf both are going to get downgraded afaikSmall city level + Relativistic speed vs Large Town Level + Subsonic speed fodder.
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We know this ATP we know he's full of it ,we're just waiting for Ruby execution
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All ive done is post evidence that proves im right, how am i 'full of it'?
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Like I know i keep saying it half jokingly but i am serious now, when Ruby wins i do want an apology, you guys are being real assholes. I put too much work into researching these characters to just be dismissed with a 'nah dont listen to him he's just making stuff up' handwave.
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I remember for like vs thread they would use this massive post to wank Rwbys character skill until it was like debunked or something.
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Like, we are not trying to be assholes, it's just that you always talk big and have nothing to show for it. This has happened countless times in the past and those of us who have been here for that long know you aren't exactly the most trustworthy user around.
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Never count DB out. They always have the ability to surprise you with some of the most ass backwards scalingI know Weekly/Throwaway is the one making the waiting period entertaining but at this point we just need for the episode to prove them wrong
Also very late but the Justice League crossover is 'canon-adjacent', and is explained as in having characters written 'canonically', but the events not actually happening or being significant within the mainline story. As such, as much as it can show barren feats that align with what RWBY can do (and DO NOT scale to DC heroes in any way), its not something to use for any serious major scaling points honestly. Same stuff with the Manga and other alternate takes on V1-3 not being part of mainline or seriously scale-able. Been over this so many times. Doesnt help the outcome either
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It wasnt debunked at all, people just decided not to believe itI remember for like vs thread they would use this massive post to wank Rwbys character skill until it was like debunked or something.
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nah brother, you haven't seen the other one they used, it was like a whole page of some bs about people being skilled by just having aura and some shitI remember for like vs thread they would use this massive post to wank Rwbys character skill until it was like debunked or something.
honestly it was impressive they even managed that lol
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You are trying to be assholes, it you werent then you wouldnt be spouting shit like 'Like always, don't trust him. He will overexaggerate, take out of context and do anything in his power to defend his beloved baby.'. For one i ******* despise RWBY and hate that i even have to discuss it to this extent, so accusing me of liking RWBY at all is a massive dick move on your part, but not even bothering to address anything i said and just dismissing my arguments is, in fact, an asshole move.
I am exceedingly trustworthy, you people just choose not to think so because i dont fall in line with your arguments.
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While yeah, people are being assholes towards you, I don't think you can really complain on people handwave you arguments when you do the same with "Oh look, another person who din't read Soul Eater" people scaling.
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My guy. The show, guidebook, and manga all confirm that you need to be skilled in combat in order to utilize Aura to any capacity.
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I think we're gonna breach at minimum page 900 with this argument and the future ones about this match!
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OH YEAH THAT WAS IT
That shit was so funny because you could just sense that something was of even if you had no idea what RWBY was.
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Nothing was off about it at all, it was just a bunch of people who know nothing about RWBY making boldfaced lying claims about itOH YEAH THAT WAS IT
That shit was so funny because you could just sense that something was of even if you had no idea what RWBY was.
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Brother, you can't lie like that, anyone who knows you will realize that's just a big fat lie
That's like saying I despise DMC and that's why I have fondly used years of my life to research, play and watch the franchise.
Like I said, most and I really mean most of the time you talk big and have nothing to show for it. I don't deny you have been truthful sometimes but you are not beacon of truth and objectivity. The fact that you got demoted for trying to inflate RWBY tiers is a big part of this.
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Is DMC intertwined with trauma and PTSD from an abusive relationship for you too? Because it is for me in regards to RWBY.
1. I didnt get demoted for trying to inflate RWBY tiers, i got demoted because Bambu does not like me
2. The 'inflating RWBY tiers' thing is hilarious because another person used the same stuff i was talking about in that incident and got it accepted and applied to the profiles a few weeks after my ban, and its still on the profiles to this day.
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Weekly calm down now. You're going a bit overboard man.
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Hey im just responding to his ping, he's the one telling people to not listen to me, tell him to stop, not me
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Technically the entire sequence from 1:01:00 to 1:03:15, where theyre actively training Oscar in combat to hone his skill and instincts to be able to generate and maintain an Aura barrier subconsciously while in a fight
The guidebook confirms that you need to have a high degree of skill to utilize Aura as a barrier, and an even higher degree of skill to manifest a Semblance
The manga also confirms that Aura requires a degree of skill beyond that of an average person to utilize
So no, it is not 'some bs', this is literally just how it works. I dont see how its so hard to understand that when shit like Chakra/Ki/'insert fancy name' Energy is one of the most common power systems in fiction and no one bats an eye to characters training and needing skill to use any of them.
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I deadass was going to continue but yeah, you need to chillax there dawg
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@NotoriouSoda Yeah that was me, I debunked the RWBY skill stuff since Weekly kept arguing Weiss would outskill Garou, which despite me dropping OPM a long time ago, I could smell the BS coming from a mile away and debunked all of the points Weekly made. Legit after that most of the folks who weren't familiar with both series decided to vote for Garou.
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Youre the one who started this my guy, you didnt have to say what you did
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And I have since debunked your debunk multiple times, and am going to be applying an airtight skill upgrade that puts them back at the level they were before that in the near future
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When have you debunked it? Because you never made a full response to my post and instead you devolved into slandering me just because I disagree with you most of the time.
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Did i not post it? I couldve sworn i did
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