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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Hulk is not herald level tho and not everyone scales to the whole cosmology, they just have to not take the top tiers
Ah, my bad, I mistakenly thought you had Street and immediately jumped to Herald as a distinction of sorts between low and high ends.

That said, if Hulk is not a herald that actually makes the situation more extreme given how freakishly powerful he already is, enough to trivialize almost any other verses, and still not be on the top level of Marvel.

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Hulk is a herald tier character though and thats a common fact

I'm a bit lost. (again) What was the tiering in comic books again?
 
Ah, my bad, I mistakenly thought you had Street and immediately jumped to Herald as a distinction of sorts between low and high ends.

That said, if Hulk is not a herald that actually makes the situation more extreme given how freakishly powerful he already is, enough to trivialize almost any other verses, and still not be on the top level of Marvel.

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I'm a bit lost. (again) What was the tiering in comic books again?
Herald basically refers to people like Thor, hulk, silver surfer. Y know, the big guns on the teams
 
You know I just realized something: Death Battle didn't mention the crossover between Godzilla and Marvel back in the 60's, where Godzilla canonically defeated Hulk, stalemated Thor, and was stated quite a number of times to be the strongest being on Earth (which, no, doesn't mean he scales to Odinforce Thor before anyone makes any accusations).

It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the battle, but I think it would've been cool if Wiz and Boomstick mentioned that Godzilla and Hulk had technically fought each other in the past.
Death Battle clearly ignored a lot of stuff from Goji, like using Godzilla In Hell planetary feats but not using any other higher-level feats for him. It gets even worse when you notice that they downplayed the GodzillaVerse cosmology and even pulled out of their asses that every Godzilla in the franchise is an "Avatar" of IT.
 
Death Battle clearly ignored a lot of stuff from Goji, like using Godzilla In Hell planetary feats but not using any other higher-level feats for him. It gets even worse when you notice that they downplayed the GodzillaVerse cosmology and even pulled out of their asses that every Godzilla in the franchise is an "Avatar" of IT.
Godzilla in hell is the most over played story ever. It's only contribution is the planetary feat. Yes I know about the author statments. I also know that author has no authority on the comic as he worked on a single issue and not the one where the feats happened.
 
Hulk is a herald tier character though and thats a common fact
because that's what he has always been in the past, but then he would be an anomaly as he is at the same level and above of Skyfathers, like Thor, he's already beyond heralds
not be on the top level of Marvel
I mean, in DB they put him above Multi-Eternity, that would put him between the top tiers
 
Anyway, analysis was pretty fine on both sides
This comment is not saying that Hulk shouldn't have won or that I am making excuses for Godzilla losing the fight, but no, the Godzilla analysis was lame; you can especially notice that when they said that every Godzilla in the franchise is an "Avatar" of IT, which is totally false, or that they are only using his crossover with Hatsune Miku, putting aside more important crossovers like the original Godzilla Marvel comics or his fight with the Power Rangers, to the point of not even using any of the P&As that he has in the crossover with Miku in the actual fight.
 
This comment is not saying that Hulk shouldn't have won or that I am making excuses for Godzilla losing the fight, but no, the Godzilla analysis was lame; you can especially notice that when they said that every Godzilla in the franchise is an "Avatar" of IT, which is totally false, or that they are only using his crossover with Hatsune Miku, putting aside more important crossovers like the original Godzilla Marvel comics or his fight with the Power Rangers, to the point of not even using any of the P&As that he has in the crossover with Miku in the actual fight.
No they said every godzilla could be an avatar of it. That's why whis calls it a theory. He literally says occurring to this theory, his whole rant is a theory if you actually listen to the episode there just acknowledging a popular idea
 
Herald basically refers to people like Thor, hulk, silver surfer. Y know, the big guns on the teams

At least I got that bit right.

Gotcha.
because that's what he has always been in the past, but then he would be an anomaly as he is at the same level and above of Skyfathers, like Thor, he's already beyond heralds
So he's stronger than a herald?
I mean, in DB they put him above Multi-Eternity, that would put him between the top tiers
You mean Multi-Eternity according to their own standards or consensus of other sites and communities?
 
Godzilla in hell is the most over played story ever. It's only contribution is the planetary feat. Yes I know about the author statments. I also know that author has no authority on the comic as he worked on a single issue and not the one where the feats happened.
We all know that Godzilla in Hell has only reliable planetary feats.
 
No they said every godzilla could be an avatar of it. That's why whis calls it a theory. He literally says occurring to this theory, his whole rant is a theory if you actually listen to the episode there just acknowledging a popular idea
Wiz's words:

They all trace back to one singular point, Godzilla Ultima.

Even if it were only a theory, it would still be wrong, and I bet they think it is real; otherwise, I don't see the necessity of mentioning it, and my other points still stand about why the Godzilla analysis was lame.
 
Even if it were only a theory, it would still be wrong, and I bet they think it is real; otherwise, I don't see the necessity of mentioning it, and my other points still stand about why the Godzilla analysis was lame.
Whiz is still saying that in the context of it being a theory. There literally talking about a cool fan theory. There is nothing wrong with that.
 
Fun fact, Majin Hunt is an anime-exclusive thing, in the manga its Kishin Hunt and she canonically cannot use that move on her own
You say fun fact, but this is kinda lame.

And that doesn't matter much anyway, Death battle gonna use both Anime and Manga, probally.
 
Why on earth would acknowledging something as a theory need to be strictly true? It is a common belief in the fandom- if you think it detracts from the analysis that's your problem I rather liked that they added that.
I'm just saying that they may believe that the theory is true; otherwise, I don't see the necessity of mentioning it. Also, now that you mentioned it, I never heard of such a theory in the Godzilla fandom. Up to this point, most Godzilla fans know that each continuity is a different setting without more relation than having a Godzilla incarnation in each one….
 
Watched the episode, and honestly surprised Hulk didn't end up 0-3 for the lols. Cool that Banner was the main reason he won too.

Still believe even with IT not being mentioned properly in Godzilla, Hulk would still win since he has feats scaling to or above the scale of IT (breaking chains made out of the First Firament and the Pactum Aeternus) if we go for peak Hulk.

Fun episode overall, 7-8/10 for me, liked it better than I thought I would.
 
I'm just saying that they may believe that the theory is true; otherwise, I don't see the necessity of mentioning it. Also, now that you mentioned it, I never heard of such a theory in the Godzilla fandom. Up to this point, most Godzilla fans know that each continuity is a different setting without more relation than having a Godzilla incarnation in each one….
This is a valid point. Personally, I'd like to believe in the theory but nothing is confirmed so there was no need to mention it
 
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