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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Honestly not many? For some reason most VS debaters seem to be allergic to scaling Trainers to Legendaries, but most Trainers that would have MUs would scale far beyond much of a game's Legendaries. Also they seem to just stop their scaling at the Trainer's most iconic fight, for example Cynthia gets magnitudes stronger than her Champion fight multiple times, but for Pokemon characters that actually get everything they should reasonably have then 99 times out of 100 they beat their Digimon matchup.
Still coping about Digimon and Pokemon match-ups, huh? Have you tried touching grass?
 
Still props to SF. Despite having 5 more losses than Wins, they rarely complain about.

Specifically streaks? Not sure if those are needed. Tbh maybe Persona has highest chance of getting a big streak so that DC & DBZ arent alone.
 
The hatred for DC/Marvel scaling in general is 100% justified if I have to be brutally honest.
I don’t really think they’re that built for powerscaling, either, since you have to walk on eggshells even here in order to not just have the scaling chains implode if you prod them too weirdly. And that’s just the scaling, not even mentioning the contradictory cosmologies and the conflicting depiction of abilities (e.g., character does something once and it’s never elaborated upon, rules of ability are just ignored sometimes and redoubled in other instances, etc.) Seems like Marvel/DC episodes are drying up, though, so we’ll see how their mindset changes in the future.
 
Yea I had to work out Godzilla a bit.

Anyways watched Lugia vs Mothra. To me this match is simple. It all depends - do you buy Lugia scaling down from the likes of Necrozma and Eternatus putting it at High 3-A or not (from stomping Ash) or not. Without that it's High 6-C (maybe High 6-B, Kukui is upgrading it) and yeah the only Mothra it may beat is the MV one.
Wouldn't Singular Point Mothra be 1-A, the same as the other kaiju in the series?
 
Wouldn't Singular Point Mothra be 1-A, the same as the other kaiju in the series?
Singular Point Mothra isn't a thing though. She just deadass doesn't exist. There were some vaguely weird moths that appeared before the final battle and they're not even properly mentioned in the novel either. The ones with 1-A keys outside of Godzilla are Rodan, Anguirus, Kumonga and Manda.
 
Singular Point Mothra isn't a thing though. She just deadass doesn't exist. There were some vaguely weird moths that appeared before the final battle and they're not even properly mentioned in the novel either. The ones with 1-A keys outside of Godzilla are Rodan, Anguirus, Kumonga and Manda.
Those moths are clearly Mini-Mothras, though…

 
Those moths are clearly Mini-Mothras, though…

"it is unkown if they emerged from the singular point"
In short, there's no information about them outside of what we've already seen. We don't even know if its really a proper mothra.
 
"it is unkown if they emerged from the singular point"
In short, there's no information about them outside of what we've already seen. We don't even know if its really a proper mothra.
I doubt the creators would just use a random moth when they can simply use Mothra, who is part of the GodzillaVerse… Also, it is pretty clear that these moths have the same appearance as the Mothras from the movies.
 
I doubt the creators would just use a random moth when they can simply use Mothra, who is part of the GodzillaVerse… Also, it is pretty clear that these moths have the same appearance as the Mothras from the movies.
you are still ignoring the fact that we deadass just don't know anything. Also why you bringing up the movies when they're literally unrelated???
 
you are still ignoring the fact that we deadass just don't know anything. Also why you bringing up the movies when they're literally unrelated???
I think that I was clear enough that these moths have the same appearance as the movie Mothras. Or can't they have the same appearance just because they are not related to each other? :V
 
I think that I was clear enough that these moths have the same appearance as the movie Mothras. Or can't they have the same appearance just because they are not related to each other? :V
I mean, does that change anything? They're disconnected lore-wise so what's the point of even bringing that up here?
 
I mean, does that change anything? They're disconnected lore-wise so what's the point of even bringing that up here?
I know that we don't know anything of these moths, but their resemblance to Mothra can't be denied. I bring that up here because it happens in Godzilla Singular Point, or does a scene need to be only relevant to 1-A scaling to be brought up here?
 
it happens in Godzilla Singular Point, or does a scene need to be only relevant to 1-A scaling to be brought up here?
I mean dude, you were the one bringing up 1-A Mothra. I was simply saying she ain't 1-A. In that context yeah, why bring up something else if we're arguing about the scaling.
 
I mean dude, you were the one bringing up 1-A Mothra. I was simply saying she ain't 1-A. In that context yeah, why bring up something else if we're arguing about the scaling.
Well, I just asked you if Mothra—if these are real Mothras—could be 1-A, the same as the other kaiju in the series, and then you implied that these were just random moths, and I just clarified to you that these look like the Mothras from the movies. In fact I agree with you that we don’t know enough to say for sure "Mothra" is 1-A.

Anyway, I hope that a possible season 2 solves these mysteries…
 
Well, I just asked you if Mothra—if these are real Mothras—could be 1-A, the same as the other kaiju in the series, and then you implied that these were just random moths, and I just clarified to you that these look like the Mothras from the movies. In fact I agree with you that we don’t know enough to say for sure "Mothra" is 1-A.

Anyway, I hope that a possible season 2 solves these mysteries…
Doubt we're ever getting a season 2.

Also I feel like a second season would somehow downgrade the verse. 1-A was contentious enough as is, don't need more reasons to try and contradict it.
 
Doubt we're ever getting a season 2.

Also I feel like a second season would somehow downgrade the verse. 1-A was contentious enough as is, don't need more reasons to try and contradict it.
Yeah, that's why I said "possible" season 2. I'm sure that Toho isn't planning on making it for some reason despite the popularity of the anime.
 
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Every single time chat.
Hot Take: I do think its good that we are atleast a bit toxic. Scares off some people.
 
Marvel/DC powerscaling has existed for so long that people stopped questioning things about it even when the scaling is wrong lol.
 
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