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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Thinking on Pokemon MU's I can't think of a lot of major ones where they actually win, like off the top of my head one of the only potential DB MU's I can maybe see in their favour is Kyogre vs Chaos. But that largely depends on how strong and fast you buy adventure era super forms, which can very easily just result in Chaos stomping.
 
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Even if Sean is here, **** it, Chaos has pretty good chance vs Kyogre imo:
  • Roughly equal in AP+speed if you dont **** around; they both threaten the world blah blah blah, Chaos gets upper hand in mid ranges with better star level feats and if you go stupid Super Sonic scales higher than Creation Trio
  • Kyogre has advantage in experience due to being older, but Chaos is generally more intelligent
  • Kyogre's main hax is electric attacks from Thunder, but tbh a lot of his other hax isnt as good as Ive seen some mentioned in Reddit, Calm Mind is interesting but still only 4x boost to AP, his healing is slow with Aqua Ring or puts him to sleep with Rest, Sheer Cold seems slam dunk due to Chaos 6 being freezable, Kyogre can boost his water attacks with Drizzle but with a catch & Kyogre if not trained has limited moves due to PP cost
  • Chaos' hax is his physiology as he is being made of water so physical moves like bullets dont affect you need to hit his weakpoint, he can stop time, he has healing as well, can fire energy and funny enough he also has a special OHKO move in Sonic Battle go figure
  • Comparing how theyd clash, Chaos' underrated advantage is his physiology as he is being made of water it makes sense that Kyogre main water attacks wouldnt actually affect Chaos, hell Kyogre itself is not immune to water attacks so Chaos' tentacle slams would hurt him, even worse Kyogre Drizzle boosts everyone's water moves so Chaos' would be boosted, Kyogre's main experience is vs Groudon but really he mostly just attacks him while Chaos is way bigger taller than buildings and Chaos' weakpoint while usually being bad thing is actually a big advantage here since Kyogre is more animalistic so he'd be less likely to target it, Chaos' healing doesnt have risk, he can stop time, now while Kyogre has Sheer Cold to OHKO but uhh Chaos 6 survived similar attack and Sheer Force has 20% Accuracy and its dangerously close to NLF with the OHKO and uhh Chaos also has OHKO moves too
Kyogre
+Has thunder attacks
+More experience vs big monsters
+Can boost itself overtime
=Equal AP (but Chaos likely takes it tbh)
=Has OHKO move (but Chaos likely resists Kyogre's)
-Inferior healing
-Boosts Chaos' water attacks
-Unlikely to target Chaos' weakpoint
-Isnt immune to Water damage, hurt by energy attacks
-Can run out of energy

Chaos
+Immune to most of Kyogre's attacks
+Kyogre's Drizzle boosts Chaos
+Can stop time
+Has no negatives in healing
+Smarter
=Equal AP (but Chaos likely takes it tbh)
=Has OHKO move (but Chaos likely resists Kyogre's)
-Vulnerable to electric moves
-No experience vs big monsters

Kyogre's best shot is spamming Thunder. Chaos can resist everything else. Chaos can attack Kyogre with no caveats and can stop time.
 
I just want to get this over with so I can go to death battle groups again without just being annoyed by everyone constantly.
 
Somehow my back has been tingling that itd be Goku vs Sonic. But its probably just RubyMaka.

Ig MickeyBugs & NarutoLuffy could work. Maaaaybe even ShulkLightning for Torrian glory.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Somehow my back has been tingling that itd be Goku vs Sonic. But its probably just RubyMaka.

Ig MickeyBugs & NarutoLuffy could work. Maaaaybe even ShulkLightning for Torrian glory.
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*Goku Vs Sonic we'll likely be just a repeat of Trunks Vs Silver plus having Goku on DB for the 4th time before Cell, Piccolo and even Gohan is just lame imo also kinda outta the blue? since neither franchise has any major releases coming in the near future.

*Ruby Vs Maka is gonna be a mess and honestly it'll be a difficult time trying to find Soul Eater fans among the RWBY detractors but it'll a great fight regardless, just hope the results don't cause a big backlash.

*Mickey Vs Bugs only has the issue with dealing with possible copyright shenanigans, everything else is good.

*Naruto Vs Luffy also has possible copyright shenanigans but overall a good MU that's pretty debatable and is agreed to go both ways (if Naruto doesn't get cosmic scaling from ETSO and the games). Tho if Luffy wins, it'll be funny to see normies begin wonderingLuffy > Ichigo and then realizing it makes no sense.

*Shulk Vs Lightning is a legacy MU but both the Xenoblade and FF hype trains in the JRPG community have already left awhile back (we still don't even have FFXVI profiles). Awesome animation potential but has a big risk of being another Colex.
 
Oh special powered Sean, tell us your opinion, on counting most Pokemon vs Digimon MUs, how many does Digimon win in your opinion ignoring VSWiki?
 
TMaakkonen said:
Oh special powered Sean, tell us your opinion, on counting most Pokemon vs Digimon MUs, how many does Digimon win in your opinion ignoring VSWiki?
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Honestly not many? For some reason most VS debaters seem to be allergic to scaling Trainers to Legendaries, but most Trainers that would have MUs would scale far beyond much of a game's Legendaries. Also they seem to just stop their scaling at the Trainer's most iconic fight, for example Cynthia gets magnitudes stronger than her Champion fight multiple times, but for Pokemon characters that actually get everything they should reasonably have then 99 times out of 100 they beat their Digimon matchup.
 
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