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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Tots_Real said:
I'm pretty sure that's is less Hulk actually using gutter space and more Gwen falling out of an artistic choice and into an action panel get herself caught.
Based Hulk, Gutter Space haxs baby.
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Yeah, my defense is that, canonically, Gwenpool's powers are always in flux, and specifically only flair up in her singular runs. As this is one of her mini-series, that means she has better manipulation of Gutter Space. Hulk, therefore, is merely taking advantage of the comic books own malleability.

It's really not any different from the feats similar to this. He has taken advantage of these kinds of anomalies/dimensional rifts before, it's just that he can't replicate these feats without a catalyst.
Doggo said:
Predicting Tom wins because he is smarter or something
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I'm hoping this is where they go. Also, Tom has an ACME safe that traps ghosts, and I haven't seen Wile E. resist sealing yet.

I don't like how they played up Wile E. speed though. It felt more like a "small burst of speed" was in reference to Roadrunner needing to put in just a little more effort, and less like he's running on empty when being chased by Wile E.
 
Hunterzillas said:
Yeah, my defense is that, canonically, Gwenpool's powers are always in flux, and specifically only flair up in her singular runs. As this is one of her mini-series, that means she has better manipulation of Gutter Space. Hulk, therefore, is merely taking advantage of the comic books own malleability.

It's really not any different from the feats similar to this. He has taken advantage of these kinds of anomalies/dimensional rifts before, it's just that he can't replicate these feats without a catalyst.

I'm hoping this is where they go. Also, Tom has an ACME safe that traps ghosts, and I haven't seen Wile E. resist sealing yet.

I don't like how they played up Wile E. speed though. It felt more like a "small burst of speed" was in reference to Roadrunner needing to put in just a little more effort, and less like he's running on empty when being chased by Wile E.
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I like it when MUs aren't about who punches the best


btw folks, what are Big G's primary Hax agasint Hulk?
 
ShawnFaux said:
Hey ya know what, fair enough. Broly got an undeserved W, and so Bardock got an undeserved L; it all balances out in the end.
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Funny you mention OmniDock in any kind of passing, because I think there might be a more implicit reason he lost baked into how DBa's new '5 categories' system works (could be less, but hear me out). In other words - It doesn't really take account of how important individual categories can be, or one advantage being 'more' of such than another.

Everyone tunnel-visions the daft nature of the Sun Disk feat, and sure, that horse has long since been bludgeoned, but I also notice no one say 'hey, so what if endurance and stamina (or whichever ones they selected) were either A) not selected, or B) made the same category (making it de-facto 4 categories to consider instead of 5, allowing OmniDock 2 advantages each)'. For Xeno VS Anything, I even made my own version of these category charts... with a slight tweak:

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(Yes, Melia vs Aladdin contemplates this many categories. Sue me)

So, you might be looking at the numbers outlined in this pink-ish red and thinking 'well, what the bloody hell is this supposed to mean?' - and these come out to a scoring system (or ratios) that consider how much a character wins individual categories by, as well as the number of categories won. This fixes a few things about the current categorization system, one of which is that one character winning an equal number of categories to another means you don't have to shoehorn in a extra 'tiebreaker' category that doesn't mean as much to the fight.

And you might be thinking 'oh, but what if one character wins 3 categories 55:45, and the other wins one 65:35? What happens then', which... sure, but not only is that kind of tie is disproportionally less likely to happen, but how important those categories would be to a fight is subject to the type of MU you put forward anyway.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
I know that people have been arguing about this since the episode was announced, but can Wile's Anti Toon weaponry even affect Tom? Because I know that Tom is considered a Toon in the same vein as Wile or Bugs Bunny, but IIRC the 2021 movie shows that Tom's DNA is wired differently with the sole ambition of catching Jerry.

So if Tom ends up taking the W, I can see DB saying that Tom's unique DNA makes him more resistant to Wile's Anti Toon shit.
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He probably dodges it or some other goofy shit like using a mirror to reflect it.
 
Funny thing is that apparently: the Hololive lore and cosmology is pretty crazy, so I've been told.

It'd honestly be funny if DB did research on Mori Calliope and it turned out that she was actually pretty cracked.
 
Alright, if DA and his crew are fast, next time is possible to be HulkGodzilla. How many here thinks its likely next time?
 
Watched both previews and I liked the structure so far.

But I didn't like 'Wile is an idiot, Tom's very smart and just gets outplayed'

Wile's got a LOT of instances of him showing he's no slouch, and Tom can absolutely be gullible.

I'm only concerned, because when they make a big deal about a personality trait, they sometimes weave it into the animation and it makes the characters seem really out of character, and personality being a reason in the post analysis tends to feel a little half baked most of the time.

I'm concerned Tom will win and too much of the post analysis will be "Yeah Tom's just smarter, and every other stat and ability is equalized so there was no edge in any other way."
 
XitSign said:
Watched both previews and I liked the structure so far.

But I didn't like 'Wile is an idiot, Tom's very smart and just gets outplayed'

Wile's got a LOT of instances of him showing he's no slouch, and Tom can absolutely be gullible.

I'm only concerned, because when they make a big deal about a personality trait, they sometimes weave it into the animation and it makes the characters seem really out of character, and personality being a reason in the post analysis tends to feel a little half baked most of the time.

I'm concerned Tom will win and too much of the post analysis will be "Yeah Tom's just smarter, and every other stat and ability is equalized so there was no edge in any other way."
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Isn't Wile also a case of being outplayed? I might be wrong, given the only cartoon I've watched of Wile dealing with another character that isn't the Roadrunner was one where he went against Bugs (mostly because of how surprised I was at hearing Wile actually talk and how funny I thought it was that Wile kept a folding door with him only so he could knock at Bugs' rabbit hole), and Bugs' entire schtick is outgambitting and manipulating everyone into defeating themselves.
 
TartaChocholate said:
Isn't Wile also a case of being outplayed? I might be wrong, given the only cartoon I've watched of Wile dealing with another character that isn't the Roadrunner was one where he went against Bugs (mostly because of how surprised I was at hearing Wile actually talk and how funny I thought it was that Wile kept a folding door with him only so he could knock at Bugs' rabbit hole), and Bugs' entire schtick is outgambitting and manipulating everyone into defeating themselves.
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Oh absolutely. I think Wile deserves his Genius ranking, he's got plenty of feats for it, but his biggest failure outside of dumb luck is without a doubt being outplayed.

Roadrunner and Bugs are just so crafty and clever, they turn any idea he has back around or exploit something he missed.
 
Tbh Wile sometimes just loses due to maximum bullshit.

He paints a fake tunnel into a wall and Roadrunner can just run into it or a train will come out of it.

He has also sawed a trap in bridge with bird seed hoping for Roadrunner to fall with it... only for literally everything else fall on that bridge.



14:44 this is just absolute fuckery lmao
 
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