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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)


I always roll my eyes when I see posts like this because they just exists to agenda-push. I said earlier that we have to believe these episodes are analyzed independently of each other because who knows where they'll scale Ultima and Hulk after this latest episode. Also all the Otoko CD gave Simon was arguments for R > F transcendence which didn't matter too much in the long run since Kyle wasn't proficient enough with the Life Equation anyway.
 
What episode/episodes do you guys absolutely hate, but love the rematch enough for a remake?
ragna vs sol because its likely the only time we will ever get a BB match

and Ragna vs Velvet is just too niche that i think it would flop in the current climate

in contrast GG has strive currently
 
is

1. Galactus
2. Zarathos
3. Unicron
4. Simon
5. Kyle
6. Zatanna/ Scarlet witch

accurate ish?
I'd probably leave Unicron off the list entirely tbh. They scaled Jean, Raven, Fate, Darkseid, and even Superman much higher than him. Even Simon might not be on here but again, the latest episode really throws a wrench in DC's ranking, although every one of those characters would beat him anyway by outhaxing.
 
Its so weird cause Kyle kind of got scaling to Spectre & Anti-Monitor which have gotten "destroy all of DC" scaling before. So in theory Simon should be able to adapt to that... but like there is no way they actually think that.
They drank the NLF koolaid, now Simon is probably the highest tiered character in all of DB... at least over time. He could probably solo SCP if he doesn't get instakilled by info destruction or whatever
 
Its so weird cause Kyle kind of got scaling to Spectre & Anti-Monitor which have gotten "destroy all of DC" scaling before. So in theory Simon should be able to adapt to that... but like there is no way they actually think that.
Yeah I'm really not sure what they were cooking with that and partly why I think the dimensional capping was really odd because at that point, do they think Simon would eclipse Lucifer or Perpetua since Anti-Monitor himself is already Sixth Dimensional? I hate to use a slippery slope but with how many more questions I'm left with than answers based on their argument for Simon's evolution and DC's cosmology, it's kind of hard for me not to.
 
Yeah I'm really not sure what they were cooking with that and partly why I think the dimensional capping was really odd because at that point, do they think Simon would eclipse Lucifer or Perpetua since Anti-Monitor himself is already Sixth Dimensional? I hate to use a slippery slope but with how many more questions I'm left with than answers based on their argument for Simon's evolution and DC's cosmology, it's kind of hard for me not to.
From what I gather they placed both at Outer, but Simon's reactive evolution allows him to jump layers of dimensions/r<f so he would eventually be stronger than Kyle. I wouldnt be surprised if they think he's boundless over time lmao
 
I doubt theyd think Simon is Boundless, but if they think jumping Ds is that easy, then Simon is at least High 1-B for them, probably Outerversal via that reality fiction thing.

Hell, blackboxes also did say that Simon could likely resist LE as well, tho due to better Willpower.
 
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Yeah, essentially while the DC Cosmology was bigger, because Simon had an equivalent reality-fiction surpassing level to the Source, to them, the Spatial Dimensions are merely an arbitrary amount of levels Simon would have to, (and considering his evolution is exponential, surpassed at an even higher rate than we saw in his canon), jumped to reach Kyle’s level. Additionally, this also meant that Simon was better suited to Kyle’s power than Kyle himself was, so Simon absorbing and boosting himself to Kyle’s level would’ve made the evolutionary argument inherently meaningless. Kyle himself would’ve made Simon Equal-D to whatever you think Kyle is (according to them) and could casually Embrace the Source, unlike Kyle, and thus could probably turn it back on him.
 
Yeah I'm really not sure what they were cooking with that and partly why I think the dimensional capping was really odd because at that point, do they think Simon would eclipse Lucifer or Perpetua since Anti-Monitor himself is already Sixth Dimensional? I hate to use a slippery slope but with how many more questions I'm left with than answers based on their argument for Simon's evolution and DC's cosmology, it's kind of hard for me not to.
ah this proves that DT was a mistake and it better to focus on where who counters who when it comes to these infinites debates
 
MachomanKoolaidman just recently reached 1.4 mil views, after like 3.5+ years. AangTraveler will not flop that bad.

But will it beat KilluaMisaka soon enough? That one is 1.693 mil views in almost 2 years. I believe it failed to reach a mil in 2 weeks. Heck, I think MMKAD failed to reach a mil in a month. SimonKyle is likely reaching that within 12h.

So thats the lowbar challenge for AangTraveler ig? Can it get 1-1.5 views mil in a month / how fast does it beat KilluaMisaka?
while aang vs travler is meh i think it should do better than killsaka
 
Tbh I don’t think they believe Simon would be on the lv Lucifer or others. I think DC characters who scale to the would outright beat Simon.
 
Is that fight debatable now?

Also I know I already said it, but overwatch really fell off hard.
prob not its boils down to how do you view TF2 stats
OW doing fine lately and the **** still carrying but it def past its peak in popularity awhile ago
 
I mean yeah that’s what I believe too. Kyle strong but he’s not DC strongest or even the strongest lantern.
Personally I agree too. What confused me was just that they claimed WL Kyle was > Anti-Monitor and AM is clearly above most of the high tiers of DC like Spectre, Darkseid, and Mxy, despite being a bit of a jobber. Since Simon would eventually eclipse Kyle in power, my logical assumption was that that would include the level of characters AM scales to or above as well, though I'm probably overthinking this.
 
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