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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Don’t they usually give characters their peak form and all abilities unless it was like a one time power up or if it’s contradictory (Alucard being the prime example where he couldn’t use schrodinger with his other abilities)
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Yeah, the thing is they usually pull off a "don't make 75%" in the scaling where they will usually only bring up feats necessary to make a character decisively win the fight when compared to another opponent, even if they personally rate that character much higher.

For example, if a 1-A character fights a 3-B character they will only mention feats up to Low 2-C, just to avoid making one of the character godstomps to the point a fight would not even happen, and to also avoid having to explain an entire gigantic ass cosmology that was built through god knows how many different issues. If the same 1-A character fights a 1-B then you can be sure they will throw the lore bible at us and scale that character much much higher than we've seen in the previous fights.
 
StrymULTRA said:
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I finally got around to watching the episode, and, uh, yeah, that might be one of the most brutal deaths in the show's history. Well done, Doomslayer.
 
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Ignatheus said:
What's the relation between Simon and Kyle? I'm trying to see why they're put against each other.
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Human dudes who weaponize indomitable human spirit with their green mcguffin to create energy constructs and fight godlike aliens of despair and nihilism.
Also, iirc Simon is supposedly Kyle's favorite anime character or smth
 
Still, I am pretty excited to for Simon vs Kyle! I'll be rooting for Simon (RIP), but it will be fun to see his interactions with Kyle, especially since Kyle, as a mega-weeb, probably has seen Gurren Lagaan and will be fanboying the whole time. Plus, Kyle's created mechs with his Ring, so this is the perfect time to make an insane mech battle (they could maybe recreate the final Giga Drill Break clash between Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagaan and Super Granzeboma for the final clash here, which would be awesome).
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
What's funny if you actually give Doomslayer "lore scaling" (I dislike that's still a thing) and use DBs volume scaling he'll actually give either Ghost Rider or Spawn a good fight and it'll actually be closer than him vs Chief.

Also props to DA, I know some peeps give him a hard time with his inconsistent 3D animations but I'm glad the fight turns out good; 7.5/10 for me personally.

As for next time, the will of the drill Vs DCs everyone and their literal grandma is 1-A or higher. Can't wait to see it tbh.
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What are you even whaffling about, both Ghost Rider and Spawn wouldn't even need a fraction of their power to humiliated Doomguy
 
SharkBook01 said:
We all thought Spawn was gonna get punched in the face by Marvel's cosmology, so maybe Simon can clutch up as well.
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It's pretty hard for Kyle to lose with the LE, but if he doesn't have it i'd say his chances would be >50% just due to his scaling without it being somewhat unclear (could be lowballed heavily) + This being one of the very few matches (without using obscure characters or matchups made solely for this reason) where a character can actually beat a DC herald.
 
FuarRu23 said:
What are you even whaffling about, both Ghost Rider and Spawn wouldn't even need a fraction of their power to humiliated Doomguy
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At least based on my understanding of VSBW's profiles, Doomguy has superior AP and the only way Spawn can kill him iirc is existence erasure or maybe powernull. Of course that's a huge wincon, but Doomguy might get resistance to existence erasure in the future (here's to hoping). Who knows? But Doomguy also has conceptual shit.
 
If Tipper is right and the Varron Source Lantern scaling is all bluster, then Kyle really must rely on the life equation or some very disingenuous interpretations regarding Hal using the miracle machine and the GL corps defeating Mandrakk.
 
LegendariumOfLies said:
Complete DCuck Death is needed
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Kill DC heralds. Behead DC heralds. Roundhouse kick a DC herald into the concrete. Slam dunk a DC herald baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy DC heralds. Defecate in a DC herald’s food. Launch DC heralds into the sun. Stir fry DC heralds in a wok. Toss DC heralds into active volcanoes. Make DC heralds check my mixtape. Urinate into a DC herald‘s gas tank. Judo throw DC heralds into a wood chipper. Twist DC heralds heads off. Report DC heralds to the IRS. Karate chop DC heralds in half. Curb stomp pregnant DC heralds. Trap DC heralds in quicksand. Crush DC heralds in the trash compactor. Liquefy DC heralds in a vat of acid. Eat DC heralds. Dissect DC heralds. Seal DC heralds in a coal mine with toxic gas. Stomp DC heralds’ skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate DC heralds in the oven. Lobotomize DC heralds. Mandatory vaccinations for DC heralds. Grind DC herald children in industrial fans. Drown DC heralds in boiling oil. Vaporize DC heralds with a ray gun. Kick elderly DC heralds down the stairs. Feed DC heralds to alligators. Slice DC heralds with a katana. Put a bomb in a DC herald‘s mouth. Throw knives at DC heralds. Inflate DC heralds until they pop. Send DC heralds into a blackhole. Spay DC heralds. Castrate DC heralds. Feed DC heralds poisoned food. Force DC heralds to walk da plank. Push DC heralds into a snake pit. Kneel on a DC heralds kidney. Curse DC heralds with a magic spell. Stuff DC herald babies into the washing machine and turn it on. Flatten DC heralds with a tank. Pop a DC herald‘s car tire. Strike DC herald children with a ruler. Make DC heralds swim in the Mariana Trench. Cut off a DC herald‘s limbs. Airdrop DC heralds into Antarctica without a coat. Infect DC heralds with the zombie virus. Compress DC heralds into fine crystals. Shove heavy fireworks in a DC herald‘s ass. Falcon Punch a DC herald in the face. Make DC herald into fiction. Blow DC heralds’ heads off with grenade launchers. Blow DC heralds’ brains open with a sniper rifle. Penance Stare DC Heralds. Hook DC heralds up to jumper cables and turn on the power.. Run over DC heralds with an elephant feet-first. Have DC heralds experience explosive decompression in a diving bell accident. Sneak attack DC heralds. Have DC Heralds admit Marvel is the better comic book company. Lock DC heralds inside a brazen bull. Burn DC heralds with hellfire. Drag DC heralds across a sandpaper treadmill. Pour molten lead on a DC herald’s genitalia. Draw and quarter DC heralds. Impale a DC herald’s head on a pike. Tenderize DC heralds with a mallet. Ionise DC heralds in a mass spectrometer. Irradiate DC heralds in a nuclear reactor. Erase DC Heralds from existence. Make DC heralds read the Necronomicon and have them be subsequently cursed. Expose DC heralds to a DAMMERUNG-class cognitohazard. Hav a DC walk through a room of LEGOs. Defenestrate DC heralds. Freeze dry DC heralds in the vacuum of space. Have God smite DC heralds. Feed DC heralds ricin. Kneecap a DC heralds with a twelve gauge. Enslave DC heralds. Sell DC heralds organs on the black market. Run DC heralds over with an fully loaded eighteen wheeler that subsequently combusts into a huge fireball. Throw DC heralds into the grand canyon. Burn DC heralds with jet engine exhaust. Beat DC heralds to death with a tire iron. Cauterise a DC herald‘s asshole with a blowtorch. Sacrifice DC heralds to the sun god. Drop DC heralds out of a plane at forty thousand feet. Feed DC heralds to sharks. Load a DC heralds into a cannon and shoot the herald at the Justice League Headquarters. Keelhaul DC heralds under a galleon. Disembowel DC heralds with a bayonet. Strap a DC heralds to a cruise missile and launch it at a DC herald gathering. Drop DC heralds into the Elephant’s Foot in Chernobyl. Thanos snap a DC herald and snort their ashes like cocaine. Lure DC heralds in with candy and trap them with bear traps. Force a DC herald to learn calculus, then kill the DC herald anyway. Atomize DC heralds by alternating the laws of physics in a way that affects only them. Throw DC heralds to rabid dogs. Choke DC heralds with barbed wire. Throw cartoonishly large anvils at DC heralds from 40-story buildings. Throw DC heralds at cartoonishly large anvils from 40-story buildings. Deep-freeze DC heralds in liquid nitrogen then shatter them with a hammer. Make DC heralds do a death march through the desert and kill them if they collapse. Slip mutagen in a DC heralds cocktail. Sow DC heralds’ asses to each other mouths in a conga line like in Human Centipede and give the line leader a heavy duty laxative. Frame a DC herald for a heinous crime. Build a railgun and fire DC heralds into the orbit. Put advertisement posters on DC heralds then nail them to their bodies with a hammer. end a DC herald exploring titanic in a cheap submarine. Use a DC herald as a crash test dummy. Tie DC heralds onto growing bamboo shoots. Film an entire Michael Bay movie on a DC herald. Starve DC heralds. Bury DC heralds alive. Play bowling with DC heralds’ heads as pins. Grate DC heralds with a cheese grater. Get DC heralds stuck in an elevator. Spray a DC herald‘s toilet paper with poison ivy. Force a DC herald to work and support a family of 5. Force DC herald into gladiatorial combat. Hide a venomous spider in a DC herald‘s bedroom. Waterboard DC heralds with gasoline, then set them on fire. Flay DC heralds. Tie DC heralds’ love interests to train tracks. Recreate mortal kombat fatalities on DC heralds. Lure DC heralds into suicide pods. Bury DC herald neck deep and surround them with mosquitoes. Clear a mine field by sending DC heralds through it. Stir DC heralds into cement. Squeeze DC heralds through a chain link fence. Hack DC heralds socials and make them say they have possession of the uncensored Epstein files and that they will publicly release them tomorrow. Subject DC heralds to scaphism. Suck a DC herald into pool drainage ass first. Play games with DC heralds jigsaw style. Make mince meat out of a DC herald and serve DC herald patties to other DC heralds. Promise a DC herald a good movie and then shelve it forever as a tax write-off. Give DC herald over to aliens in area 51 to be probed. Leave DC heralds out for vultures and crows to eat their eyes. Flay a DC herald and peel them like a banana. Deny DC heralds entry into Heaven. Time travel to make sure DC heralds are never born. Ferment DC heralds into kimchi. Ensnare DC heralds. Narc on DC heralds to the DEA. Cause a total superhero purge on DC heralds. Jam a DC herald into a geyser. Axe murder a DC herald. Unleash True Form Darkseid upon DC heralds. Put DC heralds on cruise ships going to Singapore and blow up the ships after they set sail. Total herald death.
 
Telomera said:
From a non-DB standpoint, he definitely beats V1 and Kratos. But when it comes to Spawn, he would either eventually get erased from existence, use concept/soul manip/absorption to put Spawn down for good (spawn has no conceptual shit and his resistance to soul manipulation might be lessened if Doomguy ripped his body apart), or just get into a stalemate

But as for how DB deals with it? V1 might have a chance if they discount Doom Slayer's higher speed metas and give him that miscalculation of King Minos based on his size compared to a texture depicting a city or new york or whatever, and even if they do give Doom Slayer lore scaling they might give Kratos higher AP depending on how big they think the Doom multiverse is. As for Spawn, I'm just not sure how they would determine that.

Hopefully Dark Ages and its DLC gives Doomguy even more hax so that this potential performance against them becomes more definitive. Anything could happen especially with that Cosmic Realm with eldritch beings that they're putting into it. Even just getting existence erasure resistance would be REALLY good for potential matchups.
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Yeah I can’t see V1 as he’s a bit more niche for power scaling, and a lot of the SMT or Warhammer choices or just stomps in either direction.

Kratos just seems like the perfect opponent since both won their matches, both are the “god” killers, both have had very successful reboots, and they are also THE Loremen of the modern era and watching DB figure out how much lore they’re willing to give between them will run Reddit asunder.

I mean they already accepted Hell as being beyond the boundaries of dimension AND Davoth being the creator of all reality so it’s gonna be nuts for his next opponent either way.
 
Is it a controversial take to say that I prefer the Death Battles that are on the 'smaller' scale? Not necessarily in terms of the literal size of the characters, but more in terms of their scaling. At a certain point characters just become so powerful that the explanations behind said power just become word salad to me.

Galactus vs Unicron was pretty neat, though.
 
ShawnFaux said:
Is it a controversial take to say that I prefer the Death Battles that are on the 'smaller' scale? Not necessarily in terms of the literal size of the characters, but more in terms of their scaling. At a certain point characters just become so powerful that the explanations behind said power just become word salad to me.

Galactus vs Unicron was pretty neat, though.
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Not at all
 
Jared1111 said:
Kratos just seems like the perfect opponent since both won their matches, both are the “god” killers, both have had very successful reboots, and they are also THE Loremen of the modern era and watching DB figure out how much lore they’re willing to give between them will run Reddit asunder.
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I prefer Kratos vs Dante, even though it might take awhile.
 
ShawnFaux said:
Is it a controversial take to say that I prefer the Death Battles that are on the 'smaller' scale? Not necessarily in terms of the literal size of the characters, but more in terms of their scaling. At a certain point characters just become so powerful that the explanations behind said power just become word salad to me.

Galactus vs Unicron was pretty neat, though.
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Anything tier 2 or above is pretty much battle-boarding brainrot hogwash at this point (From hax layers to onomatopoeia manipulation). Personally I've become somewhat fond of tier 7, I think it's the perfect sweetspot of still showing major environmental destruction and collateral damage but still grounded to the point where the impact of such power is still tangible and comprehensible.

I'll take a Low 7-B with ice hax/sub-rel speed Vs a 7-A with sound hax/MHS+ speed over nigh-omnipotent reality warped 616 Vs nigh-omnipotent reality warper 52 any day.
 
ShawnFaux said:
Is it a controversial take to say that I prefer the Death Battles that are on the 'smaller' scale? Not necessarily in terms of the literal size of the characters, but more in terms of their scaling. At a certain point characters just become so powerful that the explanations behind said power just become word salad to me.

Galactus vs Unicron was pretty neat, though.
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JoshDoshMosh said:
Not at all
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Honestly, one of my fav big MUs rn is a street tier (Isaac Clarke and Gordon Freeman)
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Anything tier 2 or above is pretty much battle-boarding brainrot hogwash at this point (From hax layers to onomatopoeia manipulation). Personally I've become somewhat fond of tier 7, I think it's the perfect sweetspot of still showing major environmental destruction and collateral damage but still grounded to the point where the impact of such power is still tangible and comprehensible.

I'll take a Low 7-B with ice hax/sub-rel speed Vs a 7-A with sound hax/MHS+ speed over nigh-omnipotent reality warped 616 Vs nigh-omnipotent reality warper 52 any day.
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My favorite 'high-tier' character would probably be Dante, but he also doesn't really fight like he's some universe busting God. And that's for the best.
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
Honestly, one of my fav big MUs rn is a street tier (Isaac Clarke and Gordon Freeman)
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If we're talking purely OG Dead Space, I feel like they'd have a very riveting conversation on a wavelength us mere mortals simply couldn't comprehend.

But seriously that sounds like a fun one, how does it play out?
 
ZeNoviceArtist said:
DMC is also a Capcom property and a big one too. We're more likely to get a DmC reboot sequel than Asura's Wrath 2.
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Honestly? I can't say I'd be all that upset about a sequel to the reboot, at this point. The story of the main series is, for all intents and purposes, over (not saying nothing can be done with it, but still).

Maybe it's time to give Dino / El Donte another chance in the spotlight 🤔
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Anything tier 2 or above is pretty much battle-boarding brainrot hogwash at this point (From hax layers to onomatopoeia manipulation).
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Yeah almost everything past 2-A is a battle of semantics or if the author puts enough flowery text to somewhat justify whatever number a battleboarder wants to use to make their character cooler. Very few verses actually have legitimate higher dimensional scaling and that’s usually because the authors are massive nerds

There’s a reason Death Battle never mentions anything about dimensional scaling because it’s meaningless to a casual audience.
 
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