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holy shit... Wtf is that

The Outer God Helm exists beyond the limits of common sense and the laws of the world, Even in the presence of alternate universes, the realm of the Outer Gods remains beyond our reach and inaccessible ,It also goes beyond the limits of reasoning Illogical Outer Gods themselves also wield the formidable power to destroy all aspects of logic,The Outer Gods who are beyond human logic escape conceptualization within the framework of rationality. Their very nature makes them inconceivable, as any attempt at rationalization leads to inherent contradictions, relegating them to the realm of logical impossibilities . The Outer Gods are positioned beyond the limits of human logic, they find resonance in extended modal realism. In this philosophical framework, recognizing a plurality of concrete worlds, the inconceivability of the External Gods aligns with the idea that they exist in a realm that surpasses the logical structures inherent to our reality. Extended modal realism highlights that the attempt to rationalize entities like the Outer gods, which elude understanding within our logical limits, leads to inherent contradictions, reinforcing their status as logical impossibilities across the expansive landscape of possible worlds.. The Outer Gods have always existed since the beginning in the Nasuverse, like the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Outer Gods were originally from the fictional myth, which was obtained clearly and directly from the book of 'Eibon', which also exists in the Nasuverse as fiction, During the conversation with Zepar, he recognizes that a story that is full of superstitions written in the form of fiction, After Zepar asked Raum what he meant by that, he stated that the Mages Association had a department that dealt with folklore, which is considered a secret department within the Mages Association. He then claimed that he wanted to combine legend with superstition, which he could achieve by creating a town that believed in superstitions and would conduct several trials (the Salem Witch Trials) on them until he received a result. The result he wants would not be derived from the “truth” as they cannot save humanity with the truth. Its key lies in superstition made out of fiction. Fictions about beings that do not exist in the regular universe. The Universe refers to the entire universe of 'logic'. This would include all of the verse's 'Outer Dimensions' and everything within that universe. Outside this universe, logic ceases to exist. Raum was talking about fictional beings that were not from the Nasuverse's inner universe. After Zepar heard this, he was shocked because he believed it was completely impossible as it would require Zepar to open paths to alternate worlds that did not exist even in parallel dimensions, which is impossible as after hearing this, Raum agrees with Zepar that it is indeed impossible for him to do all this alone. Raum says that a “Fictional Mythology” that describes a being that already exists outside the Universe (universe of logic), left a mark on the universe. There are countless higher Gods, the Demon Gods are not strong enough. What Raum needed was a monster from another world, not subject to the laws and common sense of the universe. A being that is beyond unlimited wisdom, the only things outside the world (Universe of logic) He believes that this fictional being would put an end to the entire Universe.
 
holy shit... Wtf is that
Kiara is a true demon, who are = in existence to outer gods, so this really falls flat.

though if you REALLY want outer god wank, kiara was said in extra ccc materials to have reached the throne of god ( a term for the root),but got ejected due to a mishap.
 
Kiara is a true demon, who are = in existence to outer gods, so this really falls flat.

though if you REALLY want outer god wank, kiara was said in extra ccc materials to have reached the throne of god ( a term for the root),but got ejected due to a mishap.
I found it on Nasuverse Tier 0 Update thread. Jesus.. A lot of words.
 
There’s an entire staff discussion thread on why it’s invalid, check there

if you still think it’s valid after that…well i can’t say much there is no saving you
The only staff thread I'm seeing is the Tier0 root thread tho, and honestly all void shiki downgrade threads all have regurgitated points. It's tiring
 
Just wait until my tier 3 DB downgrade
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Dang, the delusion is strong with this one, but I don't blame you for believing in such.
You're an idiot. Funny thing is I might be joking about what I said with the salem villagers, but if you genuinely believe Abby loses to Goku, then you might have to consult your nearest psychiatrist.
 
You're an idiot. Funny thing is I might be joking about what I said with the salem villagers, but if you genuinely believe Abby loses to Goku, then you might have to consult your nearest psychiatrist.
Thank you for the compliments, I'm blushing because of your kind words. And yes, I do believe Abby loses to Goku, simply by being a reasonable person. But, you might not see me as reasonable. Who knows what's reasonable to you.
 
Thank you for the compliments, I'm blushing because of your kind words. And yes, I do believe Abby loses to Goku, simply by being a reasonable person. But, you might not see me as reasonable. Who knows what's reasonable to you.
Tier 0!!! anything less makes you a cringe downplayer


But seriously,idk how people look at a verse who one of the strongest characters’s energy values is directly compared to our own sun and say: yea that’s outer right there.
 
Tier 0!!! anything less makes you a cringe downplayer


But seriously,idk how people look at a verse who one of the strongest characters’s energy values is directly compared to our own sun and say: yea that’s outer right there.
That's honestly a good question. People will make up anything to fit their narrative. I once had a guy argue that the six doors/gates in Salem represent all possible dimensions, and therefore, Yog-Sothoth is 1A because he or it transcends the gates. I explained why that interpretation was wrong using the source material and pointed out why, in the context of FGO, his interpretation wouldn’t make any sense. But no.
 
All of fate is a Johan Liebert Victim if we take FSN's thing literally where it says enough finite magical energy can distort a hole in to the ONE and also since it treats the ONE as a actual place even though older series made it clear the root cannot be traveled to since it's abstract and you can only think of it? what does this mean? fate is sub reality level and therefore, Johan solos by default
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that’s even worse
We already have Tier 1 Guda =P

 
We already have Tier 1 Guda =P

Greatest profile ever
 
All of fate is a Johan Liebert Victim if we take FSN's thing literally where it says enough finite magical energy can distort a hole in to the ONE and also since it treats the ONE as a actual place even though older series made it clear the root cannot be traveled to since it's abstract and you can only think of it? what does this mean? fate is sub reality level and therefore, Johan solos by default
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the entire fate route was written before the rest of the nasuverse, so whatever it says applies regardless.

the nasuverse is still a ren Fuji victim though
 
I remember the days when Masada vs Nasu was a topic lol. Now I don't think Masada even reaches past 1A anymore on this site. The verse is even a SMT victim.
 
I remember the days when Masada vs Nasu was a topic lol. Now I don't think Masada even reaches past 1A anymore on this site. The verse is even a SMT victim.
if you don’t think Masada is 1-A, nasu certainly is not.

but no, it’s not a topic. nasu gets brutalized
 
Sure lol. Average Masada fan. Surprised Masada fans still even exist here.
me when one of the strongest characters in the verse gets compared in power output to a sun

me when the root struggles to kill a certain monk with a dollar store version of Ren Fujiis law

me when the strongest character in the verse is hyped as planet busting
 
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