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I am all ears.
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Low 2-C Naruto Removal (These Profiles Suck Ass Edition)
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CraigTucker
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I'm confused here, are you saying endless stars would be galaxy or something else?
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Im saying that sure as hell is not solar system.
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It would be galaxy for "occam's razor" unless proven otherwise.
CraigTucker
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Oh than I should make a better point, scratch the solar system and the endless stars statement need context for it to be galaxy
CraigTucker
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No because it needs simple context
since it state "endless"
It can means it has Infinite Stars
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It seems likely to be a galaxy but if not that on the page for reference feats states a starry sky to be 4-A so thats the very least we are working with
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We assume endless galaxies stuff if present inside a Dimension to be a Universal in size, don't know why same wouldn't apply to endless stars, kinda seems unreasonable.
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No such statement of manga being canon to the game. If anything, the manga contradicts the game many times.
No worries.
CraigTucker
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Why would we need to assume claims with no evidence? Also the argument is based on the endless star as I don't see it being Galaxy by fault because of this reason and there is no galaxy in the dimension.
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Agree to Disagree.
CraigTucker
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Alright NP its nice to talk with you and finally meeting you reiner
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Same.Alright NP its nice to talk with you and finally meeting you reiner
CraigTucker
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I saw you from flash back community post ahout the ben 10 upgrade
CraigTucker
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I ready address this seems quite showing obitio is just manipulation space nothing new here. Get mind hax
I take the first one because well time space in naruto are just poket dimension and kaguya just use portals to travel to them
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The fact that in Naruto exist both space time and non space time teleportation supports the statements that it is another space time.I ready address this seems quite showing obitio is just manipulation space nothing new here. Get mind hax
I take the first one because well time space in naruto are just poket dimension and kaguya just use portals to travel to them
CraigTucker
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I already said this, those "Space and Time" teleportation are just Space manipulation just like how minato blade its called a "Space and Time" ninjustu yet its shown it only affects space. I see it as another pocket dimension. Agree to disagree
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Not manga statements or manga databook this is about the game
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I’m neutral on this, but the strongest evidence is definitely the alternate universe stuff. The rest of it doesn’t really work for reasons laid out above. The alternate universe stuff is what puts it into question. If there’s any other evidence that could be used that would be great
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It really isn't. Minato's teleportation, summoning jutsu, Kamui, and a shit ton of others that don't involve manipulating space time count as "space-time ninjutsu"It actually is, Sasuke mentions during the boss fight that she’s changing the entirety of space at will. Even Obito’s scan outright states that space and time are being warped and slashed
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Exactly what I’ve been saying
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I guess there are counter-arguments and no argument has yet been presented against them. The counter-arguments make sense. Agree to disagree.
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I’m mainly waiting for Deceived’s points since he’s the OP.
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Disagree FRA
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CraigTucker
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The game still shows, I don't see no using this argument
CraigTucker
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Honestly as someone pointed out the best argument here is the another universe argument which is the strongest argument presented but for the time space argument I don't see how it would be a space and time manipulation as there is so much problems with it not being space and time manipulation. The argument against it is somewhat weak because the main entire argument for it was because of "it isn't canon to the manga/anime" as this doesn't matter because it has shown the same ability from the manga and anime. Honestly disagree here and agree with the fact Low 2-C should be remove from naruto tier.
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If you care so much about manga info then all this would be cannon, this wiki doesnt accept alternative realities as cannon whatever happens there has no influence from other realities and thats truth for both ways the game doesnt scale with cannon nor the cannon scales with game
CraigTucker
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"it isn't canon to the manga/anime" as this doesn't matter because it has shown the same ability from the manga and anime.
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We discussed this in another thread, if the abilities in the game are shown to be different, like Kaguya’s ETSB, then and only then, would it be accepted as having completely different properties."it isn't canon to the manga/anime" as this doesn't matter because it has shown the same ability from the manga and anime.
CraigTucker
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What is the evidence shown that the abilities are shown to be different? if it just the same argument using from the Guidebooks than I still disagree here
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Well, I know I didn't give much opinion here or anything like that, so I'm giving my opinion now!
About Kaguya's ability she rips space-time to go to different dimensions, meaning that there is a space-time separating the dimensions and including them being said to be one universe.
Just to make it clear, these are magazines about the anime in Portuguese, ones I had kept here at home, so use them however you want. If you need help translating them into your languages I can help, all text regarding dimensions and them being referred to as Universe are here. Sorry for the bad quality and formatting of them, but it's just to contribute.
Kaguya's dimensions
The different worlds the chakra mother teleports to
The six dimensions that Kaguya can teleport to are very far apart. It takes an enormous amount of chakra to reach these six worlds instantly. Primitive space is a desert and rocky world covered in mountains, where Kaguya quickly and easily heals her wounds and is able to recover her chakra reserves by absorbing the energy of victims of the Infinite Tsukuyomi (mugen bukuyom This world is connected to the other five dimensions and constitutes a transit zone that allows you to reach them more easily
SIX WORLDS
The other five dimensions have very different morphological characteristics and are only connected through the space-time doors that Kaguya and Necha open as they see fit. In addition to primitive space, the first dimension is a land with a lot of lava and volcanoes, where only people able to fly the future in the air can fight. The second dimension is an icy world with high peaks and deep valleys covered in eternal snow.
A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT
The dimensions of Kaguya are uninhabited and hostile territories where no human being could survive. The third dimension is an arid desert, with dunes that stretch as far as the eye can see. The fourth dimension is an endless sea of acid, which disintegrates everything it touches The last dimension is a geometric world whose very intense gravity force makes any displacement or movement almost impossible
AN INTERDIMENSIONAL JUTSU
Kaguya's most powerful and extraordinary techniques are her space-time jutsu. By using them, she can teleport and take her enemies to other dimensions. This technique results from the association of two different abilities: amenominaka and yomotsu hirasaka. The first is an interdimensional jutsu that, thanks to the power of the rinne sharingan, allows Kaguya to instantly take her enemies to alternate dimensions using their specificities as tactical advantages: rivers of lava, glacial mountains or seas of acid. With yomotsu hirasaka, her second ability, Kaguya manages to tear the space-time fabric, thus creating portals that give access to her alternate dimensions or like Obito's kamui, which allow her to launch Felampago attacks against her opponents from impossible angles.
THE SIX DIMENSIONS
The interdimensional jump takes Kaguya's enemies suddenly and unexpectedly to a hostile new universe.
I take issue with everything related to this CRT and please, don't get mad at me about the scans in Portuguese, I'm still at work and I don't have much time to search in English, but as soon as it arrives I'll post it here or someone else can to search for. Thank you very much for your attention and understanding.
About Kaguya's ability she rips space-time to go to different dimensions, meaning that there is a space-time separating the dimensions and including them being said to be one universe.
Just to make it clear, these are magazines about the anime in Portuguese, ones I had kept here at home, so use them however you want. If you need help translating them into your languages I can help, all text regarding dimensions and them being referred to as Universe are here. Sorry for the bad quality and formatting of them, but it's just to contribute.
Kaguya's dimensions
The different worlds the chakra mother teleports to
The six dimensions that Kaguya can teleport to are very far apart. It takes an enormous amount of chakra to reach these six worlds instantly. Primitive space is a desert and rocky world covered in mountains, where Kaguya quickly and easily heals her wounds and is able to recover her chakra reserves by absorbing the energy of victims of the Infinite Tsukuyomi (mugen bukuyom This world is connected to the other five dimensions and constitutes a transit zone that allows you to reach them more easily
SIX WORLDS
The other five dimensions have very different morphological characteristics and are only connected through the space-time doors that Kaguya and Necha open as they see fit. In addition to primitive space, the first dimension is a land with a lot of lava and volcanoes, where only people able to fly the future in the air can fight. The second dimension is an icy world with high peaks and deep valleys covered in eternal snow.
A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT
The dimensions of Kaguya are uninhabited and hostile territories where no human being could survive. The third dimension is an arid desert, with dunes that stretch as far as the eye can see. The fourth dimension is an endless sea of acid, which disintegrates everything it touches The last dimension is a geometric world whose very intense gravity force makes any displacement or movement almost impossible
AN INTERDIMENSIONAL JUTSU
Kaguya's most powerful and extraordinary techniques are her space-time jutsu. By using them, she can teleport and take her enemies to other dimensions. This technique results from the association of two different abilities: amenominaka and yomotsu hirasaka. The first is an interdimensional jutsu that, thanks to the power of the rinne sharingan, allows Kaguya to instantly take her enemies to alternate dimensions using their specificities as tactical advantages: rivers of lava, glacial mountains or seas of acid. With yomotsu hirasaka, her second ability, Kaguya manages to tear the space-time fabric, thus creating portals that give access to her alternate dimensions or like Obito's kamui, which allow her to launch Felampago attacks against her opponents from impossible angles.
THE SIX DIMENSIONS
The interdimensional jump takes Kaguya's enemies suddenly and unexpectedly to a hostile new universe.
I take issue with everything related to this CRT and please, don't get mad at me about the scans in Portuguese, I'm still at work and I don't have much time to search in English, but as soon as it arrives I'll post it here or someone else can to search for. Thank you very much for your attention and understanding.
CraigTucker
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I wouldn't say she "rip" she more just makes portal to enter the different dimensions and I don't see how "Space and time" in naruto most of times are 4D constructs as these had been condraicted multiple times towards it being 4D
I have seen all these arguments, its from the anime however these dimensions aren't physically universe as shown it only have few celestial bodies: Stars, moon and few planets. This is a simple solar system dimension in other words a mere small pocket dimension. And these aren't universe as those are just different land of planets like world of ice. not no universe modification.
CraigTucker
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All of this is just Portal Creation/ Space Manipulation nothing is shown she affect space and time as her dimensions are just small pocket dimension hence "Space and Time" here is just small pocket dimension
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In fact, when she is in her dimensions she rips space-time to go to her other dimensions, which shows that there is a space-time separating different ones (this is her second ability in Naruto) and the first is when she creates portals to travel to different space-times.
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CraigTucker
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I mean its obvious that there 6 dimensions are completely seperate/different as all she do is affect the space to enter the other dimension(like the world of ice). She use the portal to travel to a different world
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If its the same you wont mind to have Naruto canon scale the same way because if all abilities work the same way then they have the same potency. I mean Kaguya's ETSO are not accepted for scaling in Canon only games if they work exacly the same then she would scale in canon.
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