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I made a thread. You can check it.
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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
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Hate to do this but are there other reasons for Pre Crisis having a "possibly 2A" than this:
Maaldor was very much not 2A. He had created links with interlocked dimensions. The madness that infected him and was killing him would spread through the link doing the same to other universes. Phantom Stranger even says that in the scan. Its an overtime chain reaction that Maaldor shouldn't even scale to as he would die before hand.
The other part is that Superman himself doesn't scale to Maaldor in anyway. Superman is toyed by him in the same Issue. And in his previous appearances.
Maaldor's consciousness itself seems to be weak to forces opposite nature to his Universe:
There is also the point that Joker had usurped power equal to Maalador and was helping Superman fight him. So, I can see the problem in using these scans a bit.
The first point is fine at face value but it adds confusion when it comes to scaling. Xenofobe says that Superman's punches were equal to if not above the energies of the entire Green Lantern Corps, which is odd if not a bit outlierish, especially when Jordan is supposed to scale to him.
Maaldor was very much not 2A. He had created links with interlocked dimensions. The madness that infected him and was killing him would spread through the link doing the same to other universes. Phantom Stranger even says that in the scan. Its an overtime chain reaction that Maaldor shouldn't even scale to as he would die before hand.
The other part is that Superman himself doesn't scale to Maaldor in anyway. Superman is toyed by him in the same Issue. And in his previous appearances.
Maaldor's consciousness itself seems to be weak to forces opposite nature to his Universe:
There is also the point that Joker had usurped power equal to Maalador and was helping Superman fight him. So, I can see the problem in using these scans a bit.
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5D imps are lower than the sphere of god's .
The Spectre weakened them by destroying the magic in the multiverse.
The Spectre weakened them by destroying the magic in the multiverse.
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This flip flops. Usually Mxy is above the Sphere.
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is the mansion of silence 5D or 6D in the blog? i was thinking 6D because its beyond heaven (5D) and it houses thousands and thousands of creations
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Why is Heaven being rated as 5-D? Why would being outside of Heaven be rated as 6-D?
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pretty sure its because it transcends the 2-A creation
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Heaven is not 2A or 1C. It simply exists outside the creation in vertigo.
The Presence itself would only be 2A without scaling from composite Cosmology.
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5th dimension in current cannon .
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silver city transcends creation tho or is this completely different things
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Very much doubtful.
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He is less than 10.I thought he was meant to be TOP 3 in composite DC cosmology
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I agree with this. Under composite I think the Presence comfortably reaches 1A-High 1A depending on your scalings, but Vertigo on its own isn't that impressive.
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In Composite DC, Presence is tied for 1st with the Source and Overvoid, which are all the same being.I thought he was meant to be TOP 3 in composite DC cosmology
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What do u think swamp thing?
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I don't understand the question.
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Swamp thing (character)
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Like, what do I think about him? In general? In what context?
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Like top 1,top 5,top 10 (power)
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But his gonna be just 2-A, that's not accurate at all.
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Seems like the Zero Hour CRT has confirmed the Parallax downgrade. I don't have strong feelings about intelligence levels.
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Yeah, I think we can continue it in my CRT rather than here.
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Composite Presence is the strongest character in DC comics.
Even the concept of Brahman, buddha and other religion supreme gods are a small aspect of The Divine presence.
The Presence in vertigo only rules over a single creation. Some people existed before the presence.
So it's better to ignore and treat vertigo characters as seperate without scaling them to the DC Multiverse similar to unwritten storylines
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I personally disagree with this but I respect your opinion.
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bro look at the revision blog (vertigo)
Presence created infinite timelines (2A)
Heaven is beyond that making it Low 1-C (5D)
The mansion of silence is beyond heaven and houses thousands of creations making it Low 1-C (6D)
The void is beyond everything else
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Just existing beyond is not a qualitative superiority.
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im too lazy to add detail mb
but you can check the revision blog which has the same stuff as what i said but with more detail
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Checked it and there's not much. The reasoning for Heaven being Low 1-C is that Heaven "transcends" creation but "transcending" isn't a qualitative superiority. That's explicitly stated in the FAQ, and the other descriptions do not indicate the existence of any QS.
The Mansions of Silence's justification is that it is far beyond Heaven, which would only grant it Heaven's tier at best but Heaven itself doesn't have a qualitative superiority as seen above.
Only the Void has an actual qualitative superiority. But even then, it's due to viewing creation as infinitesimal and not due to some R>f or anything.
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heaven transcends creation, looks down upon it and views it as sprinkles or smth which is QS
it does as explained above
yeah
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Viewing it as sprinkles would be Low 1-C but do you have a scan?
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Can I get eyes on this?
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its in the revision blog and the scan says something like, "creation is spangled" in heaven
or smth
