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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Emerald said:
This was Bang, not FU
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he redirected the attack, but it was still ugly's attack. The "hit you with twice the force" was referring to what garou did against ttm when he twisted his body and struck him as a counter, bang just redirected it
either way fuhrer ugly tanked the recoil of it, so his stats are still scaling
it's still an invalid justification regardless since he literally exploded from it
 
Pepsiman25th said:
Cosmic Garou vs Adam (Record of Ragnarök)
would that be a fair fight if speed was equal/unequal?
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At speed equal Adam has no real answer to Garou's radiation unless we wank and assume he can just copy his cosmic fear mode and gain all resistances/powers on top of the stats that come from it. Where it just turns into a stamina/Battle IQ fight that Garou probably wins.

At speed unequal MFTL+ key he likely just kills Garou if we assume he can copy his AP before radiation kicks in even without cosmic fear. Infinite key would just be spite.
 
Anyways so I was thinking like
Fuhrer Ugly
AP: High 7-A (able to damage amai mask and was considered strong by him, can harm himself with his own attacks) High 7-A+ with body control (caved in amai mask's face with a single punch, was able to explode gums' head with dignity caving punch)
Durability: High 7-A (took hits from base bang, albeit with some damage) High 7-A+ with body control (can endure his own attacks)

Gums
AP: At most high 7-A (able to slightly harm base fuhrer ugly, broke tatsumaki's rescue barrier, which took multiple hits from iaian to destroy)
durability: At most high 7-A, regeneration makes him hard to kill

Pig god
AP: At most high 7-A (damaged gums)
Dura: At most high 7-A (survived an extensive battle with gums)

Mercenaries
AP and Dura: at most high 7-A for damaging pig god

Disciples
at most high 7-A (comparable to the private squad)

Amai mask
AP: high 7-A (superior to iaian, okamaitachi, and bushidrill. Able to damage himself)
Durability: high 7-A (endured hits from base fuhrer ugly)

Do-s
AP: At most high 7-A (Amai masked believed she could harm the disciples, damaged amai mask's face)
Durability: At most high 7-A (Survived an attack from amai mask, but was crushed after he became enraged. Comparable to her AP)

Tanktop Master
AP and Dura: At most high 7-A (was evenly matched with gums)

And then dragon levels scale above do-s

gee I sure hope nobody brings up arbitrary rules (that don’t actually exist) that (don’t) say we can’t downscale to baseline high 7-A
 
ZillertheBucko said:
Mercenaries
AP and Dura: at most high 7-A for damaging pig god
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Yo correct me if I'm wrong, but as I remember it wasn't the injury pig god sustained a mere nosebleed? Ya know, caused by popped blood vessels near the nose? infinitely more fragile than the entire body's durability?
 
That or scaling them to Iaian breaking a Tatsumaki shiele that was capable of tanking an attack from a large Black Sperm body
 
ZillertheBucko said:
gee I sure hope nobody brings up arbitrary rules (that don’t actually exist) that (don’t) say we can’t downscale to baseline high 7-A
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Hey, I'd like to bring up an arbitary rule that doesn't actually exist... double or triple downscaling is crazy, it's trying to put numbers on a spot where they don't belong.

This is basically implying that the mercenaries and disciples reasonably possess 1/5th of Platinum or Platinum Garou's AP and durability (1 gigaton~), when that's obviously not the case. That's a high dragon minimum being compared to what, a mid demon?
 
ReusedOil said:
Yo correct me if I'm wrong, but as I remember it wasn't the injury pig god sustained a mere nosebleed? Ya know, caused by popped blood vessels near the nose? infinitely more fragile than the entire body's durability?
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Well Iaian also cut the barrier after a few tries, something that was able to hold gums out for a few seconds
 
Ourosboros said:
Hey, I'd like to bring up an arbitary rule that doesn't actually exist... double or triple downscaling is crazy, it's trying to put numbers on a spot where they don't belong.

This is basically implying that the mercenaries and disciples reasonably possess 1/5th of Platinum or Platinum Garou's AP and durability (1 gigaton~), when that's obviously not the case. That's a high dragon minimum being compared to what, a mid demon?
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Well first of all there’s no such thing as a high demon or dragon. If the scaling says do-s is a “high demon” then she’s a high demon. Either way, they would scale to even less than that 1/5 you’re talking about.
Different series have different thresholds for one shotting and stuff, so no point in complaining about gaps not being big enough for your tastes.
I personally would have gone with 7-A+ anyways rather than at most high 7-A, but for some reason nobody is willing to do a 5x difference, even though a 5x difference would be completely logical here and we can do logical things like this when the standards literally give us case by case freedom to do so.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
Well first of all there’s no such thing as a high demon or dragon. If the scaling says do-s is a “high demon” then she’s a high demon. Either way, they would scale to even less than that 1/5 you’re talking about.
Different series have different thresholds for one shotting and stuff, so no point in complaining about gaps not being big enough for your tastes.
I personally would have gone with 7-A+ anyways rather than at most high 7-A, but for some reason nobody is willing to do a 5x difference, even though a 5x difference would be completely logical here and we can do logical things like this when the standards literally give us case by case freedom to do so.
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There's multiple one-shot tiers in both disaster level demon and dragon which is why terms like this are necessary. If they're at most High 7-A... that means they're at most 1+ gigaton, or at most 1/5th of Garou's feat rubble toss feat.

I think downscaling Fuhrer Ugly from the 6-C feat in the first place doesn't make sense, technically Bang was using Awakened Breath mode and it looks like he was very casually slapping Fuhrer around only as much as he needed to incapacitate (or humilate him) because his priority was taking out TTM.

That Bang was able to kick all the way through Gums makes it almost certain that he was being casual, given how Gums was able to harm Fuhrer Ugly with his teeth I don't see why Bang couldn't have just punched or kicked his way through Fuhrer's face... unless he chose not to because he had other priorities and wanted to clown on Fuhrer.

Honestly a shame that Bang didn't take an extra second to kill Fuhrer there, Zanbai and Amahare would still be alive, Darkshine might have kept his confidence and most of the heroes might have been conscious by the time Garou showed up
 
Ourosboros said:
I think downscaling Fuhrer Ugly from the 6-C feat in the first place doesn't make sense, technically Bang was using Awakened Breath mode and it looks like he was very casually slapping Fuhrer around only as much as he needed to incapacitate (or humilate him) because his priority was taking out TTM.
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He was in base when he hit fuhrer ugly
there’s no evidence that he was casual either. He was protecting ttm so it would make sense for him to be more serious.
Ourosboros said:
That Bang was able to kick all the way through Gums makes it almost certain that he was being casual, given how Gums was able to harm Fuhrer Ugly with his teeth I don't see why Bang couldn't have just punched or kicked his way through Fuhrer's face... unless he chose not to because he had other priorities and wanted to clown on Fuhrer.
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Because gums downscales from ugly (currently accepted scaling)
Bang is high 7-A+, gums is at most baseline high 7-A.

Ourosboros said:
Honestly a shame that Bang didn't take an extra second to kill Fuhrer there, Zanbai and Amahare would still be alive, Darkshine might have kept his confidence and most of the heroes might have been conscious by the time Garou showed up
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Well be hit him several times and ugly didn’t die or get crippled so…
 
ZillertheBucko said:
He was in base when he hit fuhrer ugly
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He breathed in and made a HOOH sound right before kicking Gums, the visuals look pretty similar to its usage before the fight with Garou as well.
ZillertheBucko said:
there’s no evidence that he was casual either. He was protecting ttm so it would make sense for him to be more serious.
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That's assuming he needed to be more serious
ZillertheBucko said:
Because gums downscales from ugly (currently accepted scaling)
Bang is high 7-A+, gums is at most baseline high 7-A.


Well be hit him several times and ugly didn’t die or get crippled so…
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I'm saying it was so casual that it can't be compared to his regular power, especially since he's using Awakened Breath here and we see Garou kick straight through a much more durable Furher Ugly
 
Ourosboros said:
He breathed in and made a HOOH sound right before kicking Gums, the visuals look pretty similar to its usage before the fight with Garou as well.
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Well that completely clears up the idea bang one shotting gums like that isn't justified
this also doesn't prove he was using it when he hit ugly. Another few pages pass and we don't see him doing the breathing anymore. Another short scene even passes where there is no fighting, so he wouldn't even be using it at the time anyways.
Bang was not using awakening breath at the moment he hit ugly.
 
Anyways I think I’m going to start preparing some team profiles for this verse cause I think it has the potential to be neat
Teams like the disciples, the S class heroes (blast excluded), maybe the cadres too I’m not sure
 
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questions and answers(invented by me) together with murata and one:
1.Q: how old is God? A: God exists before the universe, because he created it (laughs).
2.Q: cosmic garou can destroy the universe? A: he could, but why would he do it? his goal is the earth, not the entire universe, the cosmic power he was given was not to destroy the universe (meaning that that was not the intention)
3.Q:who is the doing most of the work in the history?
A:One sensei is in the history of the manga,i know the manga is not complitale in the line of the web comic,but still is in the line.
4.Q:the hole in space, what happened to it?
A: I forgot to put details on that, I didn't have time, but imagine it like the holes in space in our universe, massive things where there is no light, stars or galaxies, except that this time it is something more immense and emptier than it would be. .
5.Q:what happened to the other timeline saitama?he disapier or fused with the past version but saitama forgeted that?
A:We thought of a paradox, except that it could not be because Saitama defied the laws of causality, so we forced a fusion of Saitama from the past with the one from the future to solve the problem, but I think that will not happen again in case of let saitama travel through space-time, again.
6.Q:how saitama is able to lift portals?
A: portals are things that connects space and time,
It would take large amounts of force to move them, think like trying to move the universe, except it's all concentrated in one point, that's impossible, unless you overcome the laws of physics
One:saitama does it as you noted
7.Q:what is genos refering to ''multiverse''
A(one):I was thinking about that to explain how time travel worked, there are many theories of the multiverse, but mainly the MWI is one of them, so we went for that one because it sounded pretty good, by the way, versus also has a multiverse like you will notice
8.Q:how is the graph
A(murata):i am not a expert in mathematics, but if I tell you that the graph works from the level of the power of the increase, imagine that 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 4 + 4 = 8, but this is so fast that it simply gets out of control and increases larger than the previous increase.
9:Q:this manga is getting pretty serios
A(one):but we are not gonna leave the gag s,never leave the gag.
 
Alexander said:
questions and answers(invented by me) together with murata and one:
1.Q: how old is God? A: God exists before the universe, because he created it (laughs).
2.Q: cosmic garou can destroy the universe? A: he could, but why would he do it? his goal is the earth, not the entire universe, the cosmic power he was given was not to destroy the universe (meaning that that was not the intention)
3.Q:who is the doing most of the work in the history?
A:One sensei is in the history of the manga,i know the manga is not complitale in the line of the web comic,but still is in the line.
4.Q:the hole in space, what happened to it?
A: I forgot to put details on that, I didn't have time, but imagine it like the holes in space in our universe, massive things where there is no light, stars or galaxies, except that this time it is something more immense and emptier than it would be. .
5.Q:what happened to the other timeline saitama?he disapier or fused with the past version but saitama forgeted that?
A:We thought of a paradox, except that it could not be because Saitama defied the laws of causality, so we forced a fusion of Saitama from the past with the one from the future to solve the problem, but I think that will not happen again in case of let saitama travel through space-time, again.
6.Q:how saitama is able to lift portals?
A: portals are things that connects space and time,
It would take large amounts of force to move them, think like trying to move the universe, except it's all concentrated in one point, that's impossible, unless you overcome the laws of physics
One:saitama does it as you noted
7.Q:what is genos refering to ''multiverse''
A(one):I was thinking about that to explain how time travel worked, there are many theories of the multiverse, but mainly the MWI is one of them, so we went for that one because it sounded pretty good, by the way, versus also has a multiverse like you will notice
8.Q:how is the graph
A(murata):i am not a expert in mathematics, but if I tell you that the graph works from the level of the power of the increase, imagine that 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 4 + 4 = 8, but this is so fast that it simply gets out of control and increases larger than the previous increase.
9:Q:this manga is getting pretty serios
A(one):but we are not gonna leave the gag s,never leave the gag.
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Remastered answers by me:

Answer 1: "God" completely transcends the concept of time and dimensions.
Answer 2: Yes, he can do it by causing a Big Rip or triggering the False Vacuum Decay.
Answer 3: ONE sensei with some suggestions by me.
Answer 4: I couldn't think of something cool. So I left it as it is.
Answer 5: Idk
Answer 6: Duh, because he is Saitama.
Answer 7: He is referring to MWI. On another note, OPM universe actually works according to Bosonic String Theory.
Answer 8: The graph fails to shows it but Saitama grows faster than TREE() function.

In short, I just want 3-A or Higher OPM.
 
Is this how it happened or did it happen differently? By the way, the new one was sunny, but it gave dialogues
 
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