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Dragon Ball Super - Jiren and Co. Upgrade via Void Scaling

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2-C comes from a fight between three Destroyers specifically being allowed to let loose not affecting the WoV when two of them having a sibling fight jeopardizes two universes while a heavy suppressed Jiren and UIO1 Goku individually can effortlessly shake the entire structure
 
Maitreya said:
Actually yeah you know what

**** this CRT.

I’m not partaking in any arguments anymore. Y’all can make another CRT if ya want but pretty sure this one’s been accepted and is wayyyy too cluttered at this point.
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Right, I'm not even going to argue on whether AKM is right or not, MOST if not all crts, once accepted and closed, do not get opened again unless for some special or specific reason/circumstance. Something like disagreeing with a CRT and opening it up again is ridiculous. If everyone had that power, no CRTs would get concluded - ever. He literally straight up opened it up again, and everyone entertained him for 2+ pages, when it shouldn't have been opened up in the first place. He should have followed protocol and just made a new CRT with his reasonings on why he disagrees with the upgrade.

Naturally, it'd get shut down ASAP because he literally is just saying points that have been said already in the CRT, but of course because it is AKM, people suddenly think he's saying shit that hasn't already been debated and shut down/outvoted.

If this had happened for a CRT in ANY other verse like Naruto, One Piece, or Fairy Tail, it would just get closed because they've already been debunked before.

While I do understand there are no rules to opening an already concluded thread, but having that power and very clearly using it for your benefit, when no others can, shows very clear signs of abuse. The fact that his behavior and "his" arguments were entertained is baffling.
 
Reiner said:
How is it even strawmaning here?
And since when objects started to get warn out within 48 hours? 🗿
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*minutes. Because characters kept damaging the stage. Literally only 1 3-A character (the strongest who partook in the fight) would have to be upgrade.
 
Nierre said:
Right, I'm not even going to argue on whether AKM is right or not, MOST if not all crts, once accepted and closed, do not get opened again unless for some special or specific reason/circumstance. Something like disagreeing with a CRT and opening it up again is ridiculous. If everyone had that power, no CRTs would get concluded - ever. He literally straight up opened it up again, and everyone entertained him for 2+ pages, when it shouldn't have been opened up in the first place. He should have followed protocol and just made a new CRT with his reasonings on why he disagrees with the upgrade.

Naturally, it'd get shut down ASAP because he literally is just saying points that have been said already in the CRT, but of course because it is AKM, people suddenly think he's saying shit that hasn't already been debated and shut down/outvoted.

If this had happened for a CRT in ANY other verse like Naruto, One Piece, or Fairy Tail, it would just get closed because they've already been debunked before.

While I do understand there are no rules to opening an already concluded thread, but having that power and very clearly using it for your benefit, when no others can, shows very clear signs of abuse. The fact that his behavior and "his" arguments were entertained is baffling.
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Yeah. An entire new topic needs to be created. It’s probably gonna be more staff only discussion though because this got much too cluttered.

From what I see on the pages. The changes have been applied and are still there so if they want to remove the 2C upgrade, a new CRT will have to be made regardless.
 
Nierre said:
Well I sure hope so:
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Yeaahhh, I wouldn’t like it either if they just made the changes without a separate CRT.

The changes are still present on the pages and the profiles would need to be unlocked again to revert the changes, so I guess another CRT is actually required to be made at that point.
 
Nierre said:
Right, I'm not even going to argue on whether AKM is right or not, MOST if not all crts, once accepted and closed, do not get opened again unless for some special or specific reason/circumstance. Something like disagreeing with a CRT and opening it up again is ridiculous. If everyone had that power, no CRTs would get concluded - ever. He literally straight up opened it up again, and everyone entertained him for 2+ pages, when it shouldn't have been opened up in the first place. He should have followed protocol and just made a new CRT with his reasonings on why he disagrees with the upgrade.

Naturally, it'd get shut down ASAP because he literally is just saying points that have been said already in the CRT, but of course because it is AKM, people suddenly think he's saying shit that hasn't already been debated and shut down/outvoted.

If this had happened for a CRT in ANY other verse like Naruto, One Piece, or Fairy Tail, it would just get closed because they've already been debunked before.

While I do understand there are no rules to opening an already concluded thread, but having that power and very clearly using it for your benefit, when no others can, shows very clear signs of abuse. The fact that his behavior and "his" arguments were entertained is baffling.
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Tbh I had no idea the thread was closed and reopened... When most of us agreed and it got accepted, no one seemed to be arguing anymore, logged off, came back and the next thing I saw was 2 pages of people arguing what had already concluded and it was because akm brought the same argument that had already been addressed before but because it's AKM then he must be spitting shit
 
Nierre said:
Right, I'm not even going to argue on whether AKM is right or not, MOST if not all crts, once accepted and closed, do not get opened again unless for some special or specific reason/circumstance. Something like disagreeing with a CRT and opening it up again is ridiculous. If everyone had that power, no CRTs would get concluded - ever. He literally straight up opened it up again, and everyone entertained him for 2+ pages, when it shouldn't have been opened up in the first place. He should have followed protocol and just made a new CRT with his reasonings on why he disagrees with the upgrade.

Naturally, it'd get shut down ASAP because he literally is just saying points that have been said already in the CRT, but of course because it is AKM, people suddenly think he's saying shit that hasn't already been debated and shut down/outvoted.

If this had happened for a CRT in ANY other verse like Naruto, One Piece, or Fairy Tail, it would just get closed because they've already been debunked before.

While I do understand there are no rules to opening an already concluded thread, but having that power and very clearly using it for your benefit, when no others can, shows very clear signs of abuse. The fact that his behavior and "his" arguments were entertained is baffling.
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I just caught up with this thread again and I just wanna say:

Yes. All of this. This CRT shouldn't even be open again, this is incredibly stupid. This was accepted and closed after 8 pages of argumentation with no staff opposition whatsoever, the fact that AKM feels compelled to re-open it and just bluntly say "we're reverting the changes" after little argumentation from his end is. . .absolutely ridiculous.

AKM, some advice for the future, don't re-open a thread that's already been accepted and closed, and then have the audacity to say that the changes will be reverted despite there still being staff that agree with the premise. Make a new CRT, for crying out loud. This thread was already cluttered by a bunch of derailing bullshit (that I'm more or less tempted to report, honestly) and became a mess. You're beating a dead horse.
 
I unwatched at 8 pages..... now it's.. 11

Please.. at this point yall are arguing just for the sake of arguing

Also how did many people switch up due to akm literally just repeating arguments..?
 
Sus said:
I unmatched at 8 pages..... now it's.. 11

Please.. at this point yall are arguing just for the sake of arguing

Also how did many people switch up due to akm literally just repeating arguments..?
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Honest to god I don’t think anyone really switched up anything.

The only one you could maybe say that about is damage but I don’t think they agreed with the CRT in the first place. They more disagreed with it since the beginning but was the only staff member who did so at the time, so they probably felt more compiled to vote neutral then.
 
Maitreya said:
Honest to god I don’t think anyone really switched up anything.

The only one you could maybe say that about is damage but I don’t think they agreed with the CRT in the first place. They more disagreed with it since the beginning but was the only staff member who did so at the time, so they probably felt more compiled to vote neutral then.
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Pretty sure saw people switching up but I'd be damned if im going back in pages

Lock the thread and delete all dragon ball pages, might even close the wiki
 
Bro, CLOSE THIS THREAD. It's not that difficult. AKM acts like he's above the rules, but he's not.
This was officially accepted and applied, HE CANNOT WALK OVER THAT, and reopening after not reading the thread because he is so desperate to revert it is childish. Extremely childish.

This should be closed, idgaf about any of what's going on here.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Bro, CLOSE THIS THREAD. It's not that difficult. AKM acts like he's above the rules, but he's not.
This was officially accepted and applied, HE CANNOT WALK OVER THAT, and reopening after not reading the thread because he is so desperate to revert it is childish. Extremely childish.

This should be closed, idgaf about any of what's going on here.
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No disrespect to akm but i agree with this
 
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