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I'm not understanding what you're getting at
that always, it is the people who speak in English who are bothered, in fact I have not seen any person in Spanish bothering or joking about the fact that the bow is wrong or something like that, a lot of people liked the bow, and I have not seen no person say they don't like me.
 
that always, it is the people who speak in English who are bothered, in fact I have not seen any person in Spanish bothering or joking about the fact that the bow is wrong or something like that, a lot of people liked the bow, and I have not seen no person say they don't like me.
I get what you're saying now but I disagree. I've seen posts even from Japanese readers who complain and even say worse things about the current opm manga than what English readers say. They have no problems with even cursing out ONE and Murata or name calling. I imagine there are quite of few people of different races and countries that are not a fan of what's happened in the manga recently.
 
Here's a great post on the OPM detractor Reddit (OPM Folk) of someone explaining their disappointment with Garou's characterization in the manga compared to the webcomic and it's a good read.

One part that it brings up that I didn't realize ,probably due to a lack of real interest in the manga anymore, is that Garou didn't have a real turning point.

The manga has a way cooler fight because there are bigger explosions and they blow up moons, stars and even Jupiter itself. The feats are way cooler. But these are erased by time travel. So that fight never happens in the first place. In fact, in the eyes of everyone but the reader, Garou ends up being defeated by an unknown entity. There is no lesson from Saitama in the manga. He just thanks him for helping Genos and King. So Garou doesn’t get his worldview questioned. The readers aren’t given an interesting foil to Garou’s goals. Saitama wasn’t the one to defeat Garou, so Garou didn’t develop that deeper connection to Saitama either and vice versa.

This part is why I wanted to write this rant in the first place. How Garou is treated at the very end of the MA arc, and how he emotionally responds to everything that transpired. In the webcomic I love the change in Garou. After being defeated and hearing these words from Saitama, you can clearly see the effect it has on Garou’s emotional and mental state. He is dejected, numb, and does not know what else to do. He was so close to achieving his life’s goal, but had it cut short. These feel like real emotions, and a real reaction to someone who had their entire raison d'être eliminated. He says he has no reason to live anymore and I believe him. The cocky Garou who thought he was better than everyone and everything is no longer here. After all, he was just humiliated and he knows his plans for absolute evil and terror would never work. Even when Bang is punishing his ass, he remains indifferent. He's so empty that he doesn't bother retaliating or making witty comebacks. I think we’ve all had points in our lives where we questioned our purpose and felt empty inside. Even the most chipper, the most arrogant, and the most ostentatious individual, has had a moment of quiet self-reflection. Especially if it was after something significantly impactful to their life had just happened.
You can see his reaction and the change in his whole demeanor in these panels (ONE does a surprisingly good job in displaying emotion or the lackthereof): (1) (2)
(3)

This part in the manga was the final kicker for me that really disappointed me. Instead of being clearly despondent and looking like he’s had his whole life’s purpose taken away from him, he’s the same cocky brat. So since his inception in the manga, his character development went from cocky brat to… cocky brat. As you can see here.. There is no palpable change. Yeah sure, he’s beaten up. But he’s still the same edgelord. If you aren’t that affected from having your goals forever removed from your life, then your convictions weren’t even that strong in the first place. This doesn’t feel like a pivotal emotional moment in his life. At the end, he even cracks a wholesome smirk and says “you make me sick” to Saitama. This just comes across like every other tropey edgy character in animanga to make a character look cool, rather than an actual compelling character reaction. Another example of OPM doing tropes that it was meant to parody in the first place.

In the webcomic it felt like in the wake of the battle, Garou had to question the ethos of his entire existence. In the manga it feels more like a delinquent who had his naughty playtime ended. After all, in the eyes of others, this guy was just a ruffian who went around beating up people for no reason and ended up getting beat by the Invisible Man.


Manga Garou indeed did not have a moment after being punched where his viewpoint was questioned or a proper reason to all of the sudden turn from his ideas. He simply got one-shotted by Saitama, beat up by heroes (something that should reinforce his villainous beliefs), pleaded for dying due to his ideas, and then all of a sudden Tareo comes in and pointed out he saved him, and that is supposed to be the reason for him turning from his ideas. Manga Garou just stops being a villain just because, not because his worldview changed or was dismantled.
this helps sum up quite a bit of my rant
 
I get what you're saying now but I disagree. I've seen posts even from Japanese readers who complain and even say worse things about the current opm manga than what English readers say. They have no problems with even cursing out ONE and Murata or name calling. I imagine there are quite of few people of different races and countries that are not a fan of what's happened in the manga recently.
wait...there is no trick here right?
no thing that is not equal to web comic or something like that.
because I think that's where 99.9% of the complaints come from, if they didn't mention the web comic, I'm 80% sure they wouldn't complain that Garou didn't have the original personality
 
wait...there is no trick here right?
no thing that is not equal to web comic or something like that.
because I think that's where 99.9% of the complaints come from, if they didn't mention the web comic, I'm 80% sure they wouldn't complain that Garou didn't have the original personality
I mean I can't speak for others but if the webcomic didn't exist, I know with 100% certainty that I would've dropped the series after the last chapter.
 
I never read the Web comic, because you don't need to in order to know that the ending to this arc was just a narrative mess and an absolute shitshow of writing decisions
 
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In other news, this is from another OPM folk post that shows a new form for Boros that was canceled
 
Also guys

Gonna be honest, the ending is so unbelievably terrible that I actually believe there's gotta be a redraw or something

There is no way One actually forgot about Garou's arc in the WC, not at this level, the explanation showed on Dieno's post shows how he missed the whole point
 
I mean I can't speak for others but if the webcomic didn't exist, I know with 100% certainty that I would've dropped the series after the last chapter.
Yeah, I'm not 100% sure about that.

I just accepted it as it is and that's it, I had no problem with that
 
Also guys

Gonna be honest, the ending is so unbelievably terrible that I actually believe there's gotta be a redraw or something

There is no way One actually forgot about Garou's arc in the WC, not at this level, the explanation showed on Dieno's post shows how he missed the whole point

******* Aye


Seriously **** the entire 2nd half of the Monster Association Arc
 
Also guys

Gonna be honest, the ending is so unbelievably terrible that I actually believe there's gotta be a redraw or something

There is no way One actually forgot about Garou's arc in the WC, not at this level, the explanation showed on Dieno's post shows how he missed the whole point
oh great, now anything I don't like will have to be redrawn.
I bet people would say the same thing if they could with other series...in fact I think they did.
 
Also guys

Gonna be honest, the ending is so unbelievably terrible that I actually believe there's gotta be a redraw or something

There is no way One actually forgot about Garou's arc in the WC, not at this level, the explanation showed on Dieno's post shows how he missed the whole point
I don't think so, considering Murata made announcements about this being the end of the arc and that everything was done, and they were moving on to the next arc.

You don't even need to compare to the WC here tbh. I'm certainly not, because I never read it. Because the ending wasn't terrible in comparison to the WC. No, it's just a flat out terribly written ending from a basic writing perspective.
 
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oh great, now anything I don't like will have to be redrawn.
I bet people would say the same thing if they could with other series...in fact I think they did.
That's not what I meant

I'm glad you liked the ending and could enjoy the story, I wish I also had that chance
 
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In other news, this is from another OPM folk post that shows a new form for Boros that was canceled
Maybe this is the 4th form Murata wanted to make. If so uhhhh....

Yeah MB being the final form was alright after all.

Xenomorph lookin ass
 
I'm glad you liked the ending and could enjoy the story, I wish I also had that chance
I would really like one to say that the whole arc was done and written by him,and that he wanted something different for the manga,because he would feel that the manga would not be something original and just a copy and paste from the web comic.
 
I don't think so, considering Murata made announcements about this being the end of the arc and that everything was done, and they were moving on to the next arc.

You don't even need to compare to the WC here tbh. I'm certainly not, because I never read it. Because the ending wasn't terrible in comparison to the WC. No, it's just a flat out terribly written ending from a basic writing perspective.
Ur 100% right on that, it's actually a feat on its own right ? Retconning the main characters arcs in your story and leaving as it is sounds like a amateur mistake

However looking at how Garou behaves on the ending, that was certainly the intention, even worse would be Garou being completely changed even without his retconned arc

He was a brat

He finished as a brat
 
I always wonder why English-speaking people screw opm so much, seriously, I've seen English-speaking people screwing around with saitama destroys alone your verse, opm's bow is bad, and a lot of tralalalala.
Nah this happens a lot in my country as well

Its normal, since the last arc was shit
 
Like I can't imagine how this ending wouldn't be redrawn, but everything so far with the announcements sounds like Murata and ONE being done with the arc and moving on. But consider this if the ending ends up not redrawn:

Murata was willing to redraw the Phoenix Man fight of all things like ~5 times, but seemingly is not willing to redraw an horribly written ending to a major arc that erases all relevant character growth
 
Serously though

Manga Garou went from being in my top 5 favorite OPM characters to legit Top 5 most hated ( right up there with Puri Puri Rapist )


Good thing the Multiverse is a thing in OPM

I can still say Webcomic Universe Garou in my top 5
 
No, he does **** them 😶

Anyway comparing manga Garou to a literal rapist is a massive reach but whatever, if that's Animefreak way of venting about it then it is what it is I guess
 
I wonder how will the next arc go, it seems Garou isn't aware of Bang and Sitch plans to make him his succesor and it's certain that the hunted heroes won't take it well at all 🤔
 
He just really wants to have sex with the prisoners, but he doesn't **** anyone.

In his debut chapter it's literally confirmed he ***** guys he's attracted to and that why he was arrested

Then he realized if he only ***** prisoners then **** is ok

And that's why the sole reason he allowed to be a hero is cause of how strong he is

...It's ****** up
 
No, he does **** them 😶

Anyway comparing manga Garou to a literal rapist is a massive reach but whatever, if that's Animefreak way of venting about it then it is what it is I guess

I am just kind of venting yeah, I'm sorry but this arc's final act genuinely makes my blood boil
 
The arc’s ending was perfect because it’s established that watchdog man is at least firmly at least Multi solar system level (did not consider cosmic garou enough of a threat to Q city to kill him) most likely far higher
 
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