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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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tell scp-682 that it went from building to extraversal (beyond 1-A high)with evolution.
It is not a no limit fallacy, because you would be committing the limit fallacy, by setting limits when it has no limits, it simply does not have them.
simon jumps tiers like a maniac (seriously, going from wall to 1-b low is something brutal)not even john eghbert is able to make a big jump in tiers(well,maybe)
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But that's not a NLF, because 682 actually did that feat.
Simon still can't go from 10+1 Dimensional to 12th Dimensional or infinity Dimensional without evidence. Because its a NLF.
Simon never preformed a feat of that and has showed he can cap out in power on his own. To suggest he can grow to 1-A or whatever is a example a NLF.
Its even worse for Garou since he was nowhere near the feats for power jumping that either 682 or Simon has.
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no, it is not, NLF is when you say that something has no limits because the limits were not shown, not to say that it has no limits, and it is true that it has no limits, that is not how it works, they should fix that and make an explanation more expanded.
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A drastic power jump by itself isn't a good justification for lacking limits and if we want to assume that there are quite literally no limits of any kind, then it becomes pretty difficult to actually describe a character's capabilities since nothing you describe would actually describe their maximum capabilities. That doesn't sound good for indexing or debating purposes.
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that's why they should put an explanation for that on the NLF page, instead of just putting that little text that can just be easily broken,like,really,they need to explain in more detail.
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Bad example.
Garou when trying to go back in time was him applying the WSRSF principles to his knowledge of the flow of all energy and behavior of all forces in the universe. It is using the same idea as NFF and the GRB.
The question Ziller asked is if Garou could copy 3-A and beyond. That is Shakkei/Modes. That has nothing to do with Garou's Cosmic Awareness.
Although I do agree with you that Garou can't copy those levels of power due to NLF, the example of time travel doesn't have anything to do with this.
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Simon's evolution has already shown to be able to increase dimensionally. He should be able to reach anywhere within 1-B. It is high 1-B (which is infinity dimensional) and beyond (completely inaccessible) where it becomes NLF.
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Could you explain that in more detail? I don't think that I really understand what you mean here.
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if the NLF gets to spiral power, and it won't.
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Just a minor correction "endless dimensions" rather than infinite dimensions
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Yeah hence why so many matchups were made with cosmic fear Garou. Because he’s like decently stacked in terms of hax.Man trying to find matchups for OPM characters is a pain in the ass, everyone is so haxxed it's not even funny. Like I click a profile that looks like it could be a neat fight and their "powers and abilities" page is 6 paragraphs long
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He directly states he does not have the power to replicate the technique but Saitama does.
Its a power thing and not a skill thing from what I'm reading.
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*dimensional
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Ive seen some talk that studio MAPPA or Bones will be doing season 3
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I am pretty sure he means "ability" by "power". Interpreting it as "strength" here is pretty weird in my opinion.
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Even those are boring, Garou gets outhaxxed terribly or just "copies, adapts and stomps gg"
If you guys know a 7-B character that isn't absurdly haxxed tell me
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simply:
Although it can be said that a character has no limits in power, it should be taken into account that for a vs, it would be somewhat illogical for the character to jump from tiers without a more complex explanation
example:
saitama having infinite growth power, it would be illogical to say that he would go from tier 3 to tier 2 or tier 1 at once without proof of that
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I guess you're right. If you've showcased you can go from 3D to 10/11D then a finite number increase should also be possible.
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Where in that scan does it say the thing you’re stating. All Garou said was that “even with the power of a god, he could not perfect the highest level martial arts technique.” No mention of power there.
(Also the only time he tried to do the technique he was preforming it successfully until he was being interrupted by GOD but even still his soul still traveled back in time.)
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Garou never said anything about him copying. He quite literally says, "I could not perfect my own art's final, highest, and most secret technique" proving that it is not shakkei/modes. If it were, he would be in a mode, which he is not.
It was Saitama who said that he would copy Garou's "copycat thingy," but he is wrong in saying that as Garou isn't copying anything. He is just understanding the flow and harnessing that same flow within his body as explain in chapter 165.
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Yeah you're both right. I took the wrong meaning from what I read.
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Eh not every match. There were a couple of wins made for cosmic fear Garou iircEven those are boring, Garou gets outhaxxed terribly or just "copies, adapts and stomps gg"
If you guys know a 7-B character that isn't absurdly haxxed tell me
Try some RWBY characters or some early Naruto characters like Deidara or something.
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Try Iron Man, he’s got a couple of 7-B suits.Even those are boring, Garou gets outhaxxed terribly or just "copies, adapts and stomps gg"
If you guys know a 7-B character that isn't absurdly haxxed tell me
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Thanks I'm gonna check those out
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I think a more detailed and comprehensive explanation would be needed. What you wrote just calls these things illogical without elaborating and I think it would be appropriate to explain just why exactly it would be illogical from a debating perspective.
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We need to get rid of low 2-C dbs for real this sucks ass, defending infinite zamasu was the worst mistake of my life
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This won’t stop me from saying garou no diffs dbs goku when I’m off the website
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Yes but that's impossible
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I….don’t know how well that CRT would go, but you do you.
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oh my god,god profile will never be done
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This site has kinda just outlawed trying to downgrade Infinite Zamasu, so idk if that CRT can be made.
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I’m still 50/50 on if a god profile should be made
since there’s a 0% chance it will be accurate in god’s next appearances, and we don’t even have actual AP feats for him. The only thing we know for sure technically is that he’s above monster Garou, but everything since the grb was Garou copying stuff, and we wouldn’t know if god scales to him
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Discussion rules are the root of all evil
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Why to downgrade zamasu ,his scaling with jiren and others is crap
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And there we have it.
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