STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[ByAsura]

I have a lot of choice words for this particular discussion (especially since the episodes explain all of this), but I'm just going to shut the discussion down here before it gets heated.

Or are you talking about the planet level thing, because if you sre, please remember ki control's ability to limit its blast radius is just a well backed up fan theory.

No it isn't.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

tatsumaki vs psykorochi is the best possible option to give opm the necessary hype.
who dont want to see two hot girls fighting in mewtwo's style (tk) and almost naked?

One punch man fans when they see a sassy lost child

 

[AtomicSekiro]

If Garou had stalled Saitama a little bit longer and copied him a little more, he could’ve gone back in time and one shot the Saitama that had just taken the Gamma Ray Burst. /s.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Well, I did struggle in this part of precalculus
I didn’t really understand any of that so I think we should summon the calc team, if they’re physicists they’ll probs know

Should there be a calc group discussion or something made

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

How? Saitama could pull it himself because he was a greater prodigy and because God didn't transform him into salt. It has nothing to do with strength

 

[ByAsura]

/s means sarcasm or satire

 

[Alexander]

How? Saitama could pull it himself because he was a greater prodigy and because God didn't transform him into salt. It has nothing to do with strength

saitama a prodigy? I think he's too much of a prodigy,i will say a genius

 

[Alexander]

/s means sarcasm or satire

I understand sarcasm, but when I say it, but if someone else says it, I kind of don't understand.
It's like I don't understand myself but I understand myself, but I don't understand other people, but no one can understand another person's mind

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

/s means sarcasm or satire

Oh-, I though /s was serious and /j joking, my bad

 

[ZillertheBucko]

ok the list of to do things
blast needs his scaling fixed (he wouldn't scale to the current mftl+ value)
shockwave speed from sp^2 should be accepted and scale to everybody involved
make another crt to get the graph accepted
get blast's dura and AP to 4-A, cause of that one calc with him standing next to the explosion inside the portal
idk which should happen first tho, I feel fixing blast's speed might be easiest of these

 

[Cryo123]

No it isn't.

I think that's a property of that specific attack.

 

[UltimateDarkGod666]

Imagine if Yutaka Nakamura work on Garou vs Darkshine

 

[Maitreya12]

I think that's a property of that specific attack.

The attack is done through condensing it’s ki and attacking a specific range. And the galik gun just attacks a wider range. Which means by default they are able to control the range of their affects with their ki no?

 

[UltimateDarkGod666]

 

[ZillertheBucko]

So Garou, with the ability to copy anything and not having a limiter
thoughts on him copying high 3-A? Low 2-C? And tier 0

 

[LordTracer]

thoughts on him copying high 3-A? Low 2-C? And tier 0

NLF, NLF and also NLF

 

[Alexander]

So Garou, with the ability to copy anything and not having a limiter
thoughts on him copying high 3-A? Low 2-C? And tier 0

tier 0 is, something useless, I prefer the extraversal (1-S) but the copy the garou will be maximum 3-A, until something weird happens like there are levels of infinity or something like that in opm

 

[Alexander]

NLF, NLF and also NLF

NLF is not a fallacy, in fact, it doesn't even exist as a fallacy in the first place, because it would be better if it existed as a rule.

 

[Qawsedf234]

it doesn't even exist as a fallacy in the first place

For like, IRL purposes no, but it is a defined official term

NLF: Short for “No Limits Fallacy”, it refers to a particular logical fallacy in which something that has not demonstrated limits in its home story would not demonstrate limits in any other story. This is a frequently used fallacy and is thus extremely frowned upon.

16. No Limits Fallacy (NLF)​

This is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits (or only certain limits) then it has none (or only the ones demonstrated).

Example: "Itachi said that no one without a Mangekyou Sharingan can defeat him. Therefore he can beat all of DC, Marvel, DBZ, and Tenchi Muyo."

The person in this argument holds Itachi's statement to be absolute truth, ignoring the possibility that Itachi has no knowledge of certain enemies, or never expected to encounter them. The same can be said of Kishimoto: He never intended for his characters to be pitted in battle against characters from other works of fiction, so therefore statements like this do not hold true to other works of fiction necessarily. Furthermore, there is the possibility that in - universe, Itachi was lying, bluffing, misinformed, or deluded.

Garou shows that even with his power he can't do stuff like time travel because he's to weak.

Him copying someone massively above Saitama is questionable, let alone people that have infinite energy or higher dimensional power.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

NLF, NLF and also NLF

Tbh
I mean, mathematically speaking, he can copy anything excluding someone with an undefined power, since as far as I’m aware, limiter breaking in Opm removes limiter as opposed to just making it infinitely high (high 3-A)

 

[ZillertheBucko]

For like, IRL purposes no, but it is a defined official term


Garou shows that even with his power he can't do stuff like time travel because he's to weak.

Him copying someone massively above Saitama is questionable, let alone people that have infinite energy or higher dimensional power.

We stay highballing garou
also nlf would apply to him copying hax and abilities. Not AP really

 

[Qawsedf234]

nlf would apply to him copying hax and abilities. Not AP really

That's still a NLF. Garou cannot copy higher dimensional or even extremely high AP without more evidence.

 

[Alexander]

For like, IRL purposes no, but it is a defined official term


Garou shows that even with his power he can't do stuff like time travel because he's to weak.

Him copying someone massively above Saitama is questionable, let alone people that have infinite energy or higher dimensional power.

ok,

So what if Simon has an infinite evolution and can outperform anyone, literally anyone, with the spiral power due to his infinite evolution. that now that is an NLF, because a limit is not shown, when it was said that there is no limit in the first place

 

[LordTracer]

extremely high AP

This means 3-A, for those of y’all that still think you can put Garou up against a 3-A.

 

[Qawsedf234]

So what if Simon has an infinite evolution and can outperform anyone, literally anyone, with the spiral power due to his infinite evolution.

That's still a NLF. Simon just lost outright to the Anti-Spiral and had to rely on someone else absorbing the Anti-Spiral's attack to amp himself before he could defeat it.

So even in his own franchise, Simon had clear shown limits to his strength increases.

that now that is an NLF, because a limit is not shown, when it was said that there is no limit in the first place

A limit was shown, multiple times. SGGL and on showed multiple times that Simon had a limit and needed an outside amp or energy absorption to win.

 

[Dienomite22]

This means 3-A, for those of y’all that still think you can put Garou up against a 3-A.

Garou can copy 3-A power no cap

 

[Alexander]

That's still a NLF. Simon just lost outright to the Anti-Spiral and had to rely on someone else absorbing the Anti-Spiral's attack to amp himself before he could defeat it.

So even in his own franchise, Simon had clear shown limits to his strength increases.

A limit was shown, multiple times. SGGL and on showed multiple times that Simon had a limit and needed an outside amp or energy absorption to win.

The spiral power has no limits of evolution, that's what I wanted to say sir.
also gurren lagann is from the series that is like this:
I can't beat you? Well I will, because if I believe in myself I can beat you.

is the anti spiral that has evolution limits, but simon does not have limits in the increase in power

 

[Cryo123]

That's still a NLF. Garou cannot copy higher dimensional or even extremely high AP without more evidence.

It's only a fallacy if the argument is fallacious. The story outright states that if you have your limiter broken, there's no limit to your power growth.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The spiral power has no limits of evolution, that's what I wanted to say sir.

Which is still a NLF, since it clearly had limits for multiple people who then required outside energy to get stronger.

I can't beat you? Well I will, because if I believe in myself I can beat you.

Which is incorrect as I pointed out above. Simon was not strong enough to beat the Anti-Spiral without Genome first absorbing the IBBS. Without that Simon would've just lost.

The story outright states that if you have your limiter broken, there's no limit to your power growth.

Garou never had his limiter broken. It started to break, but at no point was it ever removed. Its why he could never learn the ability to properly time travel and why Genos said that of the infinite amount of alternate universes Garou lost in all of them. He has strength limits.

 

[Aachintya31]

It's only a fallacy if the argument is fallacious. The story outright states that if you have your limiter broken, there's no limit to your power growth.

Limits could already be seen ,being unable to cope up with saitama ,"thinking that one of these could outright kill him "

 

[Apeironaxim]

About as hilarious as that “Mirio punches as hard as a nuke” guy I saw on YouTube somewhere.

tbf people without strength Quirks have tier 8 feats because sure

 

[Alexander]

Which is still a NLF, since it clearly had limits for multiple people who then required outside energy to get stronger.

Which is incorrect as I pointed out above. Simon was not strong enough to beat the Anti-Spiral without Genome first absorbing the IBBS. Without that Simon would've just lost.

Garou never had his limiter broken. It started to break, but at no point was it ever removed. Its why he could never learn the ability to properly time travel and why Genos said that of the infinite amount of alternate universes Garou lost in all of them. He has strength limits.

wow, it smells a bit like you literally didn't see yourself ttgl, right?in the end of the fight,anti spiral was'superior'but simon simply just evolve in the instante and surpass anti spiral.

 

[Aachintya31]

Garou's AD was infact weaker than many of the famous characters like broly who were able to become unqualitifiably infinitely stronger mid battle.

 

[Qawsedf234]

smells a bit like you literally didn't see yourself ttgl,

I mean, I have. Multiple times. I've even made an RT on the various forms of GL and helped out with an Anti-Spiral RT.

If Simon had no limits then he wouldn't have shown limits when fighting the Anti-Spiral.

 

[Alexander]

I mean, I have. Multiple times. I've even made an RT on the various forms of GL and helped out with an Anti-Spiral RT.

If Simon had no limits then he wouldn't have shown limits when fighting the Anti-Spiral.

no limits in evolution...

 

[Recon1511]

Alexander FRA

 

[Aachintya31]

Alexander FRA

 

[Kachon123]

Alexander FRA

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Garou's AD was infact weaker than many of the famous characters like broly who were able to become unqualitifiably infinitely stronger mid battle.

Highkey you're right.

 

[Qawsedf234]

limits in evolution...

Oh, you meant in power increases.

Yes, Simon can grow higher in power without a cap through his own evolution or absorbing energy. But he can't become 12-D or 1-A because that's still a NLF.