STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[RinneItachi]

How is Saitama’s time travel actually supposed to work?

Like it’s pretty clear he enters a new form of time when he uses the technique but what is the technique actually doing? Seems like he’s making every particle in his body work like particle and antiparticle pairs (at least in terms of spin) and I guess with the whole “imagining inner universe” thing the particles and antiparticles are supposed to represent yin and yang?

Don't read into it too much. It's just nonsense that's supposed to sound sci-fi and cool to make the reader go "Wow!". Like saying Saitama won in 0 punches and that it is a reversal of causality (which it technically is, but that isn't the most proper way to describe it).

If I had to try making sense of it though:

When he uses the technique, imagining his own inner universe or whatever, his positive and negative molecules imitate each other. Even though they are opposites, they become the same, which somehow causes time travel I guess.

 

[Coomandar]

this maybe will sound like a wank but, psykos believing that she could fuse and become the earth shouldnt give her a "possibly 5-b" rating?

 

[Hizack123]

this maybe will sound like a wank but, psykos believing that she could fuse and become the earth shouldnt give her a "possibly 5-b" rating?

That sound like a baseline 5-B if true

 

[Nehz_XZX]

this maybe will sound like a wank but, psykos believing that she could fuse and become the earth shouldnt give her a "possibly 5-b" rating?

Wouldn't this be something that would happen over time?

 

[Coomandar]

That sound like a baseline 5-B if true

seeing how strong beings boosted by god are, and her scaling massively scaling gaia cannon... i dont think she was lying or just being cocky

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

We rejected it long ago

 

[Coomandar]

Wouldn't this be something that would happen over time?

yeah but theres a point, during the fight she was focused on killing tatsumaki before doing any major damage to the earth, so how long it would take for her to do this is unknown

 

[Son263]

Saitama stomps Gojo infinity now

 

[Coomandar]

We rejected it long ago

back then, the highest feat in the verse was h6-a and god's power wasnt known to be that massive.
i feel like psykos and tatsumaki should have "potentially 5-b" on their profile, or atleast a "possibly higher"

 

[Nehz_XZX]

yeah but theres a point, during the fight she was focused on killing tatsumaki before doing any major damage to the earth, so how long it would take for her to do this is unknown

That honestly depends on the method and how fast it is and the lack of information about that makes this insufficient for even a possibly rating as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Coomandar]

Saitama stomps Gojo infinity now

now? like he does that since always lol.
so does tatsumaki, boros, garou, flashy flashy, Platinum, blast, psykos, genos

 

[Coomandar]

That honestly depends on the method and how fast it is and the lack of information about that makes this insufficient for even a possibly rating as far as I'm concerned.

ugh, really?
"atleast high 6-a, possibly higher" seems pretty fine and accurate for me.
to think that tatsumaki always had the "atleast" even when she only scaled above psykorochi 250 petatons feat, and now both scales above 5 exatons and only tatsumaki has "atleast" and i dont know why

 

[Nehz_XZX]

back then, the highest feat in the verse was h6-a and god's power wasnt known to be that massive.
i feel like psykos and tatsumaki should have "potentially 5-b" on their profile, or atleast a "possibly higher"

They don't have any feats on that level and the matter of fusing with the planet would occur over time which would make it lower than 5-B as a feat and Psykos could only really be 5-B based on that as a justification after she became the planet itself.

ugh, really?
"atleast high 6-a, possibly higher" seems pretty fine and accurate for me.
to think that tatsumaki always had the "atleast" even when she only scaled above psykorochi 250 petatons feat, and now both scales above 5 exatons and only tatsumaki has "atleast" and i dont know why

Psykos has an "at least" as well.

 

[Tago238]

Tbh One Punch characters are really bad at estimating what they can do, especially after they get a powerup .

 

[Coomandar]

They don't have any feats on that level and the matter of fusing with the planet would occur over time which would make it lower than 5-B as a feat and Psykos could only really be 5-B based on that as a justification after she became the planet itself.


Psykos has an "at least" as well.

so "possibly higher" def works for tatsumaki, atleast for her. If even psykorochi have "at least" on her profile and tatsumaki restrained her so hard while really injuried....

 

[Tago238]

Speaking of the flesh roots, why doesn’t Saitama get resistances from being unaffected by them?

 

[Nehz_XZX]

so "possibly higher" def works for tatsumaki, atleast for her. If even psykorochi have "at least" on her profile and tatsumaki restrained her so hard while really injuried....

Maybe. You'll have to see how others respond to the idea.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Speaking of the flesh roots, why doesn’t Saitama get resistances from being unaffected by them?

Was there a scene of him being unaffected? I only recall there being a scene where one of them slipped off his head and he got angry and destroyed it with a punch.

 

[Coomandar]

to hitkill someone you need to be 7,5x times stronger iirc
so this is tatsumaki being 7,5x times stronger than 5 exatons (lowball, since this is orochi's not psykosorochi) so tats is somewhere at 37,5 exatons? baseline moonlevel..
plz lemme know if im wrong

 

[ByAsura]

7.5 is only used for versus threads, not profiles.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

That rule only applies in Versus Threads, not as an actual multiplier

 

[Nehz_XZX]

to hitkill someone you need to be 7,5x times stronger iirc
so this is tatsumaki being 7,5x times stronger than 5 exatons (lowball, since this is orochi's not psykosorochi) so tats is somewhere at 37,5 exatons? baseline moonlevel..
plz lemme know if im wrong

"This gap is strictly for versus debating purposes, and will not apply when attempting to derive the attack potency of a character based on a feat of one-shotting another character in his or her verse." (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/One-Shot#One-shots_in_versus_threads)

 

[Coomandar]

7.5 is only used for versus threads, not profiles.

hm, so in versus threads we can assume that she's baseline moonlevel?

 

[Nehz_XZX]

hm, so in versus threads we can assume that she's baseline moonlevel?

No, otherwise that would be on the profile.

 

[Coomandar]

No, otherwise that would be on the profile.

got it.
but anyway, plz guys consider the "possibly higher" rating

 

[Spinoirr]

now that a ap has been chosen i think its time for that lifting strength calc talk

 

[Tago238]

Was there a scene of him being unaffected? I only recall there being a scene where one of them slipped off his head and he got angry and destroyed it with a punch.

It still made contact for a decent bit and iirc that should have been enough to absorb him somewhat.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

got it.
but anyway, plz guys consider the "possibly higher" rating

Why possibly higher? She doesn't have anything to back it.

 

[Coomandar]

Why possibly higher? She doesn't have anything to back it.

even while wounded she is clearly superior to psykorochi who already is "at least multicontinental"

meaning that the gap is even bigger if she is in good shape 100%.
tatsumaki being "atleast high 6-a, possibly higher" seems pretty fair to me.
honestly, tatsumaki didnt use her full potential once in the fight. we only get to see her in rage state when she saw fubuki injuried

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

even while wounded she is clearly superior to psykorochi who already is "at least multicontinental"

meaning that the gap is even bigger if she is in good shape 100%.
tatsumaki being "atleast high 6-a, possibly higher" seems pretty fair to me.

"At least" already covers her being superior to Psykorochi. There's no use for a "possibly higher", when she has no other feats to suggest her being higher than High 6-A

 

[Coomandar]

"At least" already covers her being superior to Psykorochi. There's no use for a "possibly higher", when she has no other feats to suggest her being higher than High 6-A

no, it doesn't.
it was enough when psykorochi didnt have "at least" on her profile aswell.
since now both of them have "at least", "possibly higher" fits pretty well.

 

[Coomandar]

tatsumaki 100%> injuried tatsumaki > psykorochi > orochi

yeah, possibly higher is not a wank.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

no, it doesn't.
it was enough when psykorochi didnt have "at least" on her profile aswell.
since now both of them have "at least", "possibly higher" fits pretty well.

Upscaling from an At least doesn't give you a possibly higher. It's pointless

 

[Nehz_XZX]

It still made contact for a decent bit and iirc that should have been enough to absorb him somewhat.

So, you mean like a piece of Saitama's head?

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Apparently its a martial arts technique but Garou doesn't have the power to do it. Pretty idiotic. I think the purpose of it was that Saitama wanted to experience martial arts because he was intrigued about Garou being a martial artist and directly countering people who use raw power. So him complimenting Garou's martial arts is sort of a nod back to that. Still stupid though.

Ain't it crazy that CF Garou at his peak would one-shot the Saitama that fought Boros?

Saitama wasn’t even fighting at full power when he fought Boros so who knows if it is a true one shot.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Saitama wasn’t even fighting at full power when he fought Boros so who knows if it is a true one shot.

He definitely wasn't. And it's not like we have a true measuring stick on how powerful Saitama is when he fought Boros

 

[Coomandar]

Upscaling from an At least doesn't give you a possibly higher. It's pointless

not when you upscale while really injuried and not at your peak lol, you're ignoring that.
tatsumaki was REALLY ****** up when she did one shot psykos and freezed her.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

not when you upscale while really injuried and not at your peak lol, you're ignoring that.
tatsumaki was REALLY ****** up when she did one shot psykos and freezed her.

Dude. "Possibly higher" is when a character is possibly higher than what their current stat is.

We know Tatsumaki is definitely higher than the tier she is, hence "At least". There is no point in a "possibly higher" when she already has an "At least"

 

[ByAsura]

Possibly higher can also denote a character potentially being in a higher tier.

Orochi is 5.2x lower than baseline Moon level, so maybe it's reasonable.

 

[Coomandar]

Dude. "Possibly higher" is when a character is possibly higher than what their current stat is.

We know Tatsumaki is definitely higher than the tier she is, hence "At least". There is no point in a "possibly higher" when she already has an "At least"

hm, then why is Boros listed as "at least high 6-a, higher with CSRC" even thought he's limited at 11 exatons?