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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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IIRC I do remember some interactions with Fubuki more than I can recall of Tatsumaki.
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I'm pretty sure there's a 3-A in the Googolplex range. although I can't remember their name.
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Yeah but that isn’t how this wiki works. Once he gets better feats he will scale higher. As of now, his gates has shown a limit, and we know no other ability to scale him higher.
I agree that the “at most” is a stupid thing to put.
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Not going to lie I actually don't really like the 4-A feat. It feels cheap and boring when it comes to delivery. Usually when there's an extremely crazy feat in the series, Murata goes out of his way to make sure it looks beautiful and spectacular. I mean, just take the Serious Sneeze for example. Meanwhile, with this feat it's just an explosion and then a void in the sky. It's really meh. Could've been done better, and in a way that better confirmed the feat beyond our speculations about it.
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To give a summary of this latest chapter's explanation of Saitama's growth if anyone still misunderstands it:
"His rate of growth, which had gone unnoticed by anyone since there was no one remotely on par with his strength...Suddenly began to soar exponentially...Due to an upsurge of emotion like none he had ever experienced."
This is saying Saitama is constantly growing, both in and out of combat, but because nobody is close to his power, nobody could even tell that Saitama is still growing. This is Accelerated Development. And due to the emotions he is currently feeling, and likely also the fact that he was being matched by Garou, he is now growing stronger at an even faster rate than normal, enough to stomp opponents he was even with not even milliseconds prior. This is Reactive Evolution, or Reactive Power Level.
It's also possible that it actually is just because of his emotions towards Genos' death. It might be that Saitama has been growing while fighting Garou, but Garou has been copying him effectively until this point, where Saitama began to overwhelm him completely. That would explain why it only mentions emotions. Still, I doubt it's just that.
"His rate of growth, which had gone unnoticed by anyone since there was no one remotely on par with his strength...Suddenly began to soar exponentially...Due to an upsurge of emotion like none he had ever experienced."
This is saying Saitama is constantly growing, both in and out of combat, but because nobody is close to his power, nobody could even tell that Saitama is still growing. This is Accelerated Development. And due to the emotions he is currently feeling, and likely also the fact that he was being matched by Garou, he is now growing stronger at an even faster rate than normal, enough to stomp opponents he was even with not even milliseconds prior. This is Reactive Evolution, or Reactive Power Level.
It's also possible that it actually is just because of his emotions towards Genos' death. It might be that Saitama has been growing while fighting Garou, but Garou has been copying him effectively until this point, where Saitama began to overwhelm him completely. That would explain why it only mentions emotions. Still, I doubt it's just that.
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Actually, it’s not exactly arbitrary. 7.5 is the difference from baseline 10-B (40 joules) to baseline 9-C (300 joules).
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will we use USklaverei's speed calculations? Seems like his calculation is being accepted, doesn't it?
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Waiting for the next just for the plot and fights
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the tiers themselves are arbitrary, so
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Not all of them.
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Made a lengthy and detailed explanation of how Saitama's power works. Wondering if I should post it here.
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I wouldn't mind it
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Why not, walls of text get posted here often anyways and it's obviously on topic so I'll just go ahead and copy paste it. Lol apparently you can't do more than 20 images per post.
Add on the fact that we do know the limiter exists, as the narrator has confirmed it when saying that Garou's limiter was starting to break against Darkshine.
In addition to all of this, we get even further context on Saitama’s growth in the various bonus chapters.
In the bonus chapter Brushing Up, labeled Chapter 15.5, we see Saitama 300 days into his training.
Later in the chapter, we see Saitama fight a Tiger level Monster, he is swiftly defeated by it and pushed to the brink of death.
And there’s even a note at the end, shown above, saying “The key to his power”. Keep in mind, this chapter came out years before the chapter called Limiter I first mentioned. And in this chapter, multiple times does Saitama mention his limits. He does it over and over again. It is very obvious what this bonus chapter was foreshadowing. Yes, it made a joke about Saitama’s trick being good dental hygiene, but this is very likely a red herring. If the chapter came out after the Limiter chapter, then sure, I could see it just being a joke, but this is years before that. Unless ONE made a foreshadowed red herring, which would be weird and unnecessary, or it’s just all a big coincidence, which it definitely isn’t, this is foreshadowing.
In fact, we have an explanation about growth rate from Gyoro Gyoro that might just give yet more insight into this bonus chapter.
I would imagine that this is to say that Saitama needed one final push to break his limiter, and that was him being driven to the brink of death by the Tiger level Monster. He had hit his peak. His limit. There was no more he could grow at that point, his body was even breaking down. But when driven as far into a corner as he could be, his limiter broke, giving him an explosion of power.
But it doesn’t end quite there. In the very next bonus chapter, Recollection Of A Summer, the 20.5th chapter, as well as a very recent bonus chapter, Back Of My Head, the 163.5th chapter, which we can both deduce is after the previous bonus chapter in-universe, we see that Saitama has been undergoing hair loss ever since then.
Saitama also tries to see the back of his head. As reflections are produced by light, this would require someone to move faster than light. He struggles greatly with this feat, even though bald Saitama’s current speed dwarfs the speed of light completely.
So, before we move onto the latest chapter, 168, let’s recap:
In the One-Punch Man universe, there is a fundamental law in all living beings called a Limiter. As the name implies, a Limiter is simply the limit to one’s own growth. No matter how hard a living being tries, there is a limit that they cannot surpass in some field, such as strength or speed. Living beings also have different Limiters, or rather, a different level of potential. The reason why absurdly strong humans like Bang, who doesn’t have a super power but is inhumanly strong, can achieve so much power without breaking his limiter, is because of a simple reason. He has more talent than other people. And then there are people who are born with truly special powers, like espers such as Tatsumaki.
Saitama was a normal person. He had no talents in any regard. A totally average, run-of-the-mill dude. But, through nothing but sheer effort, he reached the absolute peak of his physical limitations on the 300th day of his training. At that point, he was forced into a corner by an opponent he could not overcome with will power alone. In that state, he surpassed the physical confines of normal living beings, breaking his Limiter, proceeding to one-shot an opponent that had just curbstomped him.
We can deduce that his hair loss was gradual afterwards, not immediate, and we know that he continued training, and still continues to train even now, as confirmed by Murata. Other characters can also break their limiters, as confirmed by the narrator, it is not exclusive to Saitama.
Now, onto Chapter 168.
So, what this latest chapter has shown us is that Saitama indeed gained infinite potential when he broke his Limiter, not infinite power. After breaking his Limiter, Saitama’s growth rate skyrocketed, and before long he became the strongest person around. He continued growing and growing, but, because nobody was close to his level, nobody could observe his power nor force it to grow even more. Due to recent events, and likely Garou’s own strength matching Saitama’s temporarily, Saitama’s power continued to grow exponentially with every passing moment. Now, even though Garou was actually Saitama’s equal at the start of this chapter, Saitama has once again grown to a level at which Garou is, once more, being utterly dwarfed.
Saitama’s power is finite. But he can grow infinitely. There is no finite level at which Saitama’s growth will ever stop. Even in the midst of combat, Saitama can grow strong enough to stomp opponents who were previously equal to himself not even milliseconds prior.
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Alright, I think all I need to do now is Blast's powers and abilities. Does anyone here already have a list of them? @Emirp sumitpo
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Apparently its a martial arts technique but Garou doesn't have the power to do it. Pretty idiotic. I think the purpose of it was that Saitama wanted to experience martial arts because he was intrigued about Garou being a martial artist and directly countering people who use raw power. So him complimenting Garou's martial arts is sort of a nod back to that. Still stupid though.
Ain't it crazy that CF Garou at his peak would one-shot the Saitama that fought Boros?
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I could come up with a list, but I don't have the links ready and all that.
Not counting the current page abilities, Extrasensory Perception, Attack Reflection (or something similar, might be a different term), and Reality Warping if we apply what Blast says about himself.
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ONE made such a good reactive powerlevel. ONE is a powerscaler and I won’t be told otherwise. Oh well I hope at least other writers will adapt what ONE tried to do in the webcomicWhy not, walls of text get posted here often anyways and it's obviously on topic so I'll just go ahead and copy paste it. Lol apparently you can't do more than 20 images per post.
Add on the fact that we do know the limiter exists, as the narrator has confirmed it when saying that Garou's limiter was starting to break against Darkshine.
In addition to all of this, we get even further context on Saitama’s growth in the various bonus chapters.
In the bonus chapter Brushing Up, labeled Chapter 15.5, we see Saitama 300 days into his training.
Later in the chapter, we see Saitama fight a Tiger level Monster, he is swiftly defeated by it and pushed to the brink of death.
And there’s even a note at the end, shown above, saying “The key to his power”. Keep in mind, this chapter came out years before the chapter called Limiter I first mentioned. And in this chapter, multiple times does Saitama mention his limits. He does it over and over again. It is very obvious what this bonus chapter was foreshadowing. Yes, it made a joke about Saitama’s trick being good dental hygiene, but this is very likely a red herring. If the chapter came out after the Limiter chapter, then sure, I could see it just being a joke, but this is years before that. Unless ONE made a foreshadowed red herring, which would be weird and unnecessary, or it’s just all a big coincidence, which it definitely isn’t, this is foreshadowing.
In fact, we have an explanation about growth rate from Gyoro Gyoro that might just give yet more insight into this bonus chapter.
I would imagine that this is to say that Saitama needed one final push to break his limiter, and that was him being driven to the brink of death by the Tiger level Monster. He had hit his peak. His limit. There was no more he could grow at that point, his body was even breaking down. But when driven as far into a corner as he could be, his limiter broke, giving him an explosion of power.
But it doesn’t end quite there. In the very next bonus chapter, Recollection Of A Summer, the 20.5th chapter, as well as a very recent bonus chapter, Back Of My Head, the 163.5th chapter, which we can both deduce is after the previous bonus chapter in-universe, we see that Saitama has been undergoing hair loss ever since then.
Saitama also tries to see the back of his head. As reflections are produced by light, this would require someone to move faster than light. He struggles greatly with this feat, even though bald Saitama’s current speed dwarfs the speed of light completely.
So, before we move onto the latest chapter, 168, let’s recap:
In the One-Punch Man universe, there is a fundamental law in all living beings called a Limiter. As the name implies, a Limiter is simply the limit to one’s own growth. No matter how hard a living being tries, there is a limit that they cannot surpass in some field, such as strength or speed. Living beings also have different Limiters, or rather, a different level of potential. The reason why absurdly strong humans like Bang, who doesn’t have a super power but is inhumanly strong, can achieve so much power without breaking his limiter, is because of a simple reason. He has more talent than other people. And then there are people who are born with truly special powers, like espers such as Tatsumaki.
Saitama was a normal person. He had no talents in any regard. A totally average, run-of-the-mill dude. But, through nothing but sheer effort, he reached the absolute peak of his physical limitations on the 300th day of his training. At that point, he was forced into a corner by an opponent he could not overcome with will power alone. In that state, he surpassed the physical confines of normal living beings, breaking his Limiter, proceeding to one-shot an opponent that had just curbstomped him.
We can deduce that his hair loss was gradual afterwards, not immediate, and we know that he continued training, and still continues to train even now, as confirmed by Murata. Other characters can also break their limiters, as confirmed by the narrator, it is not exclusive to Saitama.
Now, onto Chapter 168.
So, what this latest chapter has shown us is that Saitama indeed gained infinite potential when he broke his Limiter, not infinite power. After breaking his Limiter, Saitama’s growth rate skyrocketed, and before long he became the strongest person around. He continued growing and growing, but, because nobody was close to his level, nobody could observe his power nor force it to grow even more. Due to recent events, and likely Garou’s own strength matching Saitama’s temporarily, Saitama’s power continued to grow exponentially with every passing moment. Now, even though Garou was actually Saitama’s equal at the start of this chapter, Saitama has once again grown to a level at which Garou is, once more, being utterly dwarfed.
Saitama’s power is finite. But he can grow infinitely. There is no finite level at which Saitama’s growth will ever stop. Even in the midst of combat, Saitama can grow strong enough to stomp opponents who were previously equal to himself not even milliseconds prior.
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forgot audiobook volume 2 was posted on youtube
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I agree tbh, like another way for him to draw the feat is have an outward view of the galaxy, but show that several chunks of it are gone. That'd still be 4-A.
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From the top of my head
- Spatial Manipulation
- Portal Creation
- BFR
- Self Sustenance (Type 1)
- Resistance to Radiation Manipulation
BTW, here are the drafts for Blast, GOD and Garou. I'll make Saitama later. They're all still incomplete and lack scans and references. You can help edit them if you wish.
Don't ask why it's in the webcomic sandbox
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Now that I think about it, Blast is probably stronger than Saitama throughout most of the series, let alone chapter 1.
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BTW, would the Io ping pong thing scale to normal cosmic Garou in speed?
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TBH I'm not sure. What is he absorbing? I also can't tell if he's making a black hole or just some big explosion.
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He uses nuclear fission to create the explosion and then uses gravity knuckle to reabsorb it with the black hole thing.
that's what it looks like to me, at least
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It would scale to Saitama Mode Cosmic Garou as normal Cosmic Garou was being blitzed
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I guess some form of energy absorption? Seems like a really wacky feat
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I know that, but I'm talking about normal cosmic garou
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