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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Huh, I'm tripping then. I honestly don't remember Boros being that tall, because I remember being him only like over a head taller than Saitama
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accept what? they're country sized oof.
i dont really understand this
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Jin mori>>>Garou>>Goku>>>>>>>>>>Might Guy
(Off pure skill, ma only)
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iirc the area that would be the property of a city is country sized, that isn't disputed, but we don't assume it is literally a city with enough buildings to cover a whole ass country
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The cities themselves aren't country sized. They are city sized. The area owned by the city/the area around the city is country sized.
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so you mean the CAPITAL, right?
i mean, the area lifted by tatsumaki was the WHOLE z city coast, that tsunami was huge enough destroy a country, so lifting a city sized area wouldnt stop it.
this would prob upgrade tats's lifting strenght
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(Continuing from my previous answer so i don't type up an unreadable wall)
Goku vs Garou is a bit tricky. Imo Garou wins in a skill/technique only match, while Goku wins in terms of pure skill feat discussion.
Martial arts in OPM are far more OP than in Dragon Ball. While in dragon ball they are more or less real world martial arts with some flashy skill feats sprinkled that's about it in practicity. OPM has stuff like redirecting all kinds of attacks/energy blasts/exposions stronger than the user, returning attacks back 2 fold, drastically amping themselves with breathing techniques(Dragon ball also has amps, but they require Ki manip techniques, like Kaioken) , body control that uses your effin heartbeats to create powerful shockwaves that bypass attack reflection. Creating sharp bladed wind shockwaves that travel pretty much instantly by hand motions and joint rotation, and that's not getting on pure dura neg stuff like Fa Jin and RASRF.
But... if we go purely by their skill feats and how hard they are to master in verse. We have a young Goku using a precary version of the kamehameha from seeing his master use it once, said master gets freaked out, since this technique requires like a hundred years to master for a guy like himself. Meanwhile, WSRSF is a very impressive martial art, being the world's strongest defensive/counter based martial arts created by who's arguably the greatest martial artist to have ever lived, but apparently it's something that can be taught and learned at least on a basic level by anyone who's willing to put in effort. Sure, we never see another disciple reach Garou or Bang's level, but Orochi manages to copy it instantly without any problem. Meanwhile even after practicing for years Garou can't quite catch up to Bang until reaching his monster form. (you can say however that his technique mimicry and learning have gotten much better after he becomes a monster.)
Other than that Garou has a pretty good skill chain of beating other superhumanly skilled martial masters. (Wich is a problem in OPM, since a lot of the people Garou fights that isn't Bang really don't have that many skill feats, as OPM is not as nearly martial arts focused as the OG DB and GoH.) More experience. (He's legit old enough to be Garou's father.) Can learn techniques that people have been trying to learn for billions of years (like Ultra instinct.) has Analytical prediction bordering on precog that lets him predict teleportation on people comparable to him in skill and speed, and eventually Hit's time skipping (wich coouuldd be argued as him reacting to infinite speed if that wasn't beyond ridiculous). and likely much more, since i'm not really that qualified to talk about Goku. If i had to gauge their techniques it would be
Garou wins in Reactive evolution(Grew as much as he did on the span of a few days.) and technical mastery(learned more martials and even came up with a few of his own) while Goku wins in analytical precog(way better than Manga Garou, close fight but still wins vs webcomic), Instinctive reactions (Through ultra instinct, while Garou can fight while sleeping at the cost of muscle cordination ultra instinct has much better direct dodging feats),Experience (is much older and fought a more diverse array of martial artists and versatile enemies) and difficulty of techniques learned(while nowhere near as effective, he learned some stuff no other guy like him could in eras).
Technique mimicry is a toss up, Garou can learn, but there's a limit to how much he can master a technique just by copying. Goku can copy stuff but it's not really that much in character or used as effectively, but he has snatched some really hard to master stuff.
Goku vs Garou is a bit tricky. Imo Garou wins in a skill/technique only match, while Goku wins in terms of pure skill feat discussion.
Martial arts in OPM are far more OP than in Dragon Ball. While in dragon ball they are more or less real world martial arts with some flashy skill feats sprinkled that's about it in practicity. OPM has stuff like redirecting all kinds of attacks/energy blasts/exposions stronger than the user, returning attacks back 2 fold, drastically amping themselves with breathing techniques(Dragon ball also has amps, but they require Ki manip techniques, like Kaioken) , body control that uses your effin heartbeats to create powerful shockwaves that bypass attack reflection. Creating sharp bladed wind shockwaves that travel pretty much instantly by hand motions and joint rotation, and that's not getting on pure dura neg stuff like Fa Jin and RASRF.
But... if we go purely by their skill feats and how hard they are to master in verse. We have a young Goku using a precary version of the kamehameha from seeing his master use it once, said master gets freaked out, since this technique requires like a hundred years to master for a guy like himself. Meanwhile, WSRSF is a very impressive martial art, being the world's strongest defensive/counter based martial arts created by who's arguably the greatest martial artist to have ever lived, but apparently it's something that can be taught and learned at least on a basic level by anyone who's willing to put in effort. Sure, we never see another disciple reach Garou or Bang's level, but Orochi manages to copy it instantly without any problem. Meanwhile even after practicing for years Garou can't quite catch up to Bang until reaching his monster form. (you can say however that his technique mimicry and learning have gotten much better after he becomes a monster.)
Other than that Garou has a pretty good skill chain of beating other superhumanly skilled martial masters. (Wich is a problem in OPM, since a lot of the people Garou fights that isn't Bang really don't have that many skill feats, as OPM is not as nearly martial arts focused as the OG DB and GoH.) More experience. (He's legit old enough to be Garou's father.) Can learn techniques that people have been trying to learn for billions of years (like Ultra instinct.) has Analytical prediction bordering on precog that lets him predict teleportation on people comparable to him in skill and speed, and eventually Hit's time skipping (wich coouuldd be argued as him reacting to infinite speed if that wasn't beyond ridiculous). and likely much more, since i'm not really that qualified to talk about Goku. If i had to gauge their techniques it would be
Garou wins in Reactive evolution(Grew as much as he did on the span of a few days.) and technical mastery(learned more martials and even came up with a few of his own) while Goku wins in analytical precog(way better than Manga Garou, close fight but still wins vs webcomic), Instinctive reactions (Through ultra instinct, while Garou can fight while sleeping at the cost of muscle cordination ultra instinct has much better direct dodging feats),Experience (is much older and fought a more diverse array of martial artists and versatile enemies) and difficulty of techniques learned(while nowhere near as effective, he learned some stuff no other guy like him could in eras).
Technique mimicry is a toss up, Garou can learn, but there's a limit to how much he can master a technique just by copying. Goku can copy stuff but it's not really that much in character or used as effectively, but he has snatched some really hard to master stuff.
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Can you at least show scans to prove you point?
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You realize that Garou literally copied EHRF, TFTF, PAF, LBIRF. FP RF, Yatagarasu, PPKF, POF, LFR, from just a glance, was able to fuse it into one style, and a couple minutes later, perfected and mastered said style.
Garou was also able to copy Awakening Breath- a secret WSRSF technique again from just a glance.
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Might guy has impressive stuff like fighting Sharingan users with godly precog and analytical prediction, being undisputedly one of the greatest taijutsu masters, nominated by a legend like Madara who can take endless waves of fodder ninja (who still go through an absurd amount of training, since being a ninja is like the only career option in the ninja village) in taijutsu alone. He kinda falls flat to the rest in terms of how effective his techniques are and how hard to master they are. He also lacks in other skill feats like growth speed (since he already starts more or less close to his peak.), Fancy techniques( no real dura neg and 8 gates are kinda hard to properly measure when compared to properly explained techniques like in Baki or muh billion years to master ki control technique in dragonball) and general stuff like analytical precog and instinctive reactions. (He does get some amazing choreography tho, he can also wield nunchakus, wich is cool.)
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Imo Garou outskills DB & Z Goku but is probably outclassed by Suoer Goku
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hang on
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Why do you think this?
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Many of those are featless btw, but i agree that EHRF( requiring body control over your heart.) and awakening breath (a breathing technique) gives him an advantage over copying more varied stuff than pure movements and Ki control. Being able to create his own style by fusing them is neat too.
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look at MA's base, how SMALL it was looking from above, and how big it's looking a few kilometers away, and even zoomed theres alot of buildings here enough to be a city sized area, JUST THE MA BASE.
also, consider that opm's is in the future, so the population has grow ALOT, this explains all of those buildings around the country
also, consider that opm's is in the future, so the population has grow ALOT, this explains all of those buildings around the country
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DBS Goku has:
- Predicted the attacks of a time stop spammer
- Mastered UI in the span of a 48 minute tournament when Gods with millions of years of experience failed to do the same
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Did I miss something? Garou relative to Goku in skill?
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My guy, we don't use the anime though yeah I thought they were country sized too since the manga version of the map had them as pretty big.
We currently have them under 200 km though and destroying multiple of them has been deemed only island level so I have no idea where you get Country level from. Make a CRT?
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Why does Garou outskill Z Goku? I think they’re relative.
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did it bug or can you guys see all scams? bc for me only one is showing
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Whoever made this is being generous to Tatsumaki, she’s probably more like 4’2”.
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I can only rate Garou's skill super high because he was able to reinvent Roaring Aura Sky Ripping Fist, while ASLEEP. This man was in a feral state so bad he couldn't talk but he's passively skilled enough to...
Combine two INSANE techniques in a way he never saw.... to create a two-person technicque he performed SINGLEHANDEDLY.... while ASLEEP!
The first part is insane in itself. There's technique mimicry, then there's singlehandedly fusing two martial arts (one studied and improved upon semi-naturally, another copied from a few looks) in a theoretical way that may have taken years of practice and planning to create an ultimate technique- potential years of work of two masters of their respective arts duplicated in the mind of a sleepwalking teenager in a matter of minutes, hours or seconds.
I don't know of any other fictional characters capable of this kind of innovation
Combine two INSANE techniques in a way he never saw.... to create a two-person technicque he performed SINGLEHANDEDLY.... while ASLEEP!
The first part is insane in itself. There's technique mimicry, then there's singlehandedly fusing two martial arts (one studied and improved upon semi-naturally, another copied from a few looks) in a theoretical way that may have taken years of practice and planning to create an ultimate technique- potential years of work of two masters of their respective arts duplicated in the mind of a sleepwalking teenager in a matter of minutes, hours or seconds.
I don't know of any other fictional characters capable of this kind of innovation
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destroying multiplies cities at once being island level is the same as saying that opm's world is smaller than ours, and it clearly isnt.
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Now that i think about it i wish Garou learned/showed some grappling techniques. He is like 99% a striker, knowing grappling techniques and how to escape them would greatly compliment his skill feats. Grappling feats can lead to skill feats just as impressive and IRL can lead to a instawin even against a stronger opponent if they fail to counter. (would also help him a lot in a fight against Baki and Kengan Ashura characters.) (Even if Kengan characters can be absolutely nuts in skill sometimes. Like predicting a hundred movements in the future being fodder stuff.)
He tried to use a flying armbar against Saitama in the wc, but it got removed in the manga, don't remember any other feat of this type.
He tried to use a flying armbar against Saitama in the wc, but it got removed in the manga, don't remember any other feat of this type.
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lmaooo I made that image when I was like 16. It's honestly not that well made but I'm glad to see that it's actually being used for a discussion, albeit several years later.
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Idk enough about Goku to properly scale him in skill. This is based purely on my not perfect perception of both characters, so unless you explain why you think Goku>Garou i'm afraid just asserting your opinion isn't going to do much,
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I made that image a long time ago (what are the odds lol) and I chose 4'5 because Child Emperor is 4'5 and Tatsu looked to be the same height when they were standing next to each other.
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I’m just asking a question. Not the first time I’m hearing it.
Probably the guy who learnt a technique that took 50 years for the “God of Martial Arts” to learn.
Learnt it in a glance.
A 12 year old Goku btw
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