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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

DbzDB2 said:
im getting kinda sick of murata screwing over amai mask fans. that bit with the heroes vs monsters shows all the heroes looking badass except Amai, who is screaming like a bitch. like the other heroes end up getting ****** too, so why is it just showing Amai's weakness and not for the other heroes?
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I dunno man, at this point I fear for Amai Mask's Arc, it might destroy what's left of his character and I wouldn't be surprised
 
Hokuto no shinken stuff. Instantly exploding even opponents with no pressure points and achieving a non-existant state are no joke.
If you mean stuff so powerful and haxed you can barely even call it martial techniques then Wuxia stuff where they eventually get thought based type 1 conceptual manip through hax (wich are explicitely considered martial arts or at least skill based techniques in verse). That and Fate stuff where characters bypass infinity and transcend stuff by being too skilled.
 
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why are you guys discussing about flashy, gale wind psykos and etc..
at the end of the day they're all gonna be soloed by tatsumaki
 
just like tatsumaki lifting the ENTIRE COAST of z city, it was not just the capital of the country, like, that tsunami was REALLY huge.
just inconsistent.

also, tatsumaki twisting the whole z city, a continent sized country should be a nice feat aswell, wonder why none has ever calced this
 
SemiRaedi said:
I wonder what the skill gap between each character is
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I think it's Mori Jin>(?)>Garou/Goku>>>Might guy.
Mori Jin comes from a verse where the fodder of the fodder would be a character who practiced a certain martial art in a much more martial arts centric world than ours from a young age, was considered a genius among other disciples and became a regional champion. That's the kind of guy Jin Mori is casually stomping in the first episode. Everyone that comes later is massively more skilled and has a very ample skill chain.
After that he learns stuff like Heavenly acupunture techniques that target on a sub cellular level that can heal and inflict wounds that a machine capable of healing on a cellular level is unable to affect. Also, he can use it on himself to achieve effects like a 250.000x amp.
His Renewal Taekwondo is said to be an extremely complex martial art wich is a superhumanly refined version of taekwondo that can legit cause someone to explode if they try to copy his movements and use them on the same level as him, he has enough mastery with the shockwaves it causes to instantly knock out people comparable to him by creating shockwaves that directly shake the brain.
He has resistance to precog and technique mimicry while being able to instantly snatch said heavenly acupunture techinque from an expert after seeing it once and thinking it was cool.
And that's not even getting to his god form feats, where he outskills beings who are extremely old martial artists with skill scaling chains far higher than the most skilled humans in his world.
The reason i put a (?) on his >> is because apparently he performs his greatest skill feats as Mori Dan, and i haven't read that part yet. (also been a long time since i last read it on general.)
He would also beat anyone on this list in a skill/technique only match and in terms of general skill feat and how difficult to achieve they would be.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Hold up w h a t

I thought Boros was like 2m
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Boros is only 1 inch taller
 
i saw here idk when a calc with z city size, it was something between 100-300km and i STRONGLY disagree with that.
when opm's map was shown, we can CLEARLY see that every city is atleast country sized, someone just forgor how inconsistent is murata's art
 
like, the same map is shown in both anime and manga
the only difference is that in manga the CITIES are named on map, and manga in theres not wrote on it
 
iirc the area that would be the property of a city is country sized, that isn't disputed, but we don't assume it is literally a city with enough buildings to cover a whole ass country
 
Kachon123 said:
The cities themselves aren't country sized. They are city sized. The area owned by the city/the area around the city is country sized.
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so you mean the CAPITAL, right?
i mean, the area lifted by tatsumaki was the WHOLE z city coast, that tsunami was huge enough destroy a country, so lifting a city sized area wouldnt stop it.
this would prob upgrade tats's lifting strenght
 
the problem is just the inconsistent art.
i'm not implying to buff every dragon to 6-b tier, they could destroy and kill all humans of a country just being 7-b and mhs+ aswell, just not in a single hit.
 
(Continuing from my previous answer so i don't type up an unreadable wall)
Goku vs Garou is a bit tricky. Imo Garou wins in a skill/technique only match, while Goku wins in terms of pure skill feat discussion.
Martial arts in OPM are far more OP than in Dragon Ball. While in dragon ball they are more or less real world martial arts with some flashy skill feats sprinkled that's about it in practicity. OPM has stuff like redirecting all kinds of attacks/energy blasts/exposions stronger than the user, returning attacks back 2 fold, drastically amping themselves with breathing techniques(Dragon ball also has amps, but they require Ki manip techniques, like Kaioken) , body control that uses your effin heartbeats to create powerful shockwaves that bypass attack reflection. Creating sharp bladed wind shockwaves that travel pretty much instantly by hand motions and joint rotation, and that's not getting on pure dura neg stuff like Fa Jin and RASRF.

But... if we go purely by their skill feats and how hard they are to master in verse. We have a young Goku using a precary version of the kamehameha from seeing his master use it once, said master gets freaked out, since this technique requires like a hundred years to master for a guy like himself. Meanwhile, WSRSF is a very impressive martial art, being the world's strongest defensive/counter based martial arts created by who's arguably the greatest martial artist to have ever lived, but apparently it's something that can be taught and learned at least on a basic level by anyone who's willing to put in effort. Sure, we never see another disciple reach Garou or Bang's level, but Orochi manages to copy it instantly without any problem. Meanwhile even after practicing for years Garou can't quite catch up to Bang until reaching his monster form. (you can say however that his technique mimicry and learning have gotten much better after he becomes a monster.)
Other than that Garou has a pretty good skill chain of beating other superhumanly skilled martial masters. (Wich is a problem in OPM, since a lot of the people Garou fights that isn't Bang really don't have that many skill feats, as OPM is not as nearly martial arts focused as the OG DB and GoH.) More experience. (He's legit old enough to be Garou's father.) Can learn techniques that people have been trying to learn for billions of years (like Ultra instinct.) has Analytical prediction bordering on precog that lets him predict teleportation on people comparable to him in skill and speed, and eventually Hit's time skipping (wich coouuldd be argued as him reacting to infinite speed if that wasn't beyond ridiculous). and likely much more, since i'm not really that qualified to talk about Goku. If i had to gauge their techniques it would be

Garou wins in Reactive evolution(Grew as much as he did on the span of a few days.) and technical mastery(learned more martials and even came up with a few of his own) while Goku wins in analytical precog(way better than Manga Garou, close fight but still wins vs webcomic), Instinctive reactions (Through ultra instinct, while Garou can fight while sleeping at the cost of muscle cordination ultra instinct has much better direct dodging feats),Experience (is much older and fought a more diverse array of martial artists and versatile enemies) and difficulty of techniques learned(while nowhere near as effective, he learned some stuff no other guy like him could in eras).
Technique mimicry is a toss up, Garou can learn, but there's a limit to how much he can master a technique just by copying. Goku can copy stuff but it's not really that much in character or used as effectively, but he has snatched some really hard to master stuff.
 
like the meteor in season 1, genos literally stated that it could've damaged other cities too, and the distance between one city and another is literally continent-country size, how can this be only island level?
 
comparing opm's map, z city area (not only the capital) is almost as big as Brazil, and tats twisted the entire thing.....
and you can see from the scam of the twist, and compare to the map, it's the literally the whole country
 
Epiccheev said:
But... if we go purely by their skill feats and how hard they are to master in verse. We have a young Goku using a precary version of the kamehameha from seeing his master use it once, said master gets freaked out, since this technique requires like a hundred years to master for a guy like himself. Meanwhile, WSRSF is a very impressive martial art, being the world's strongest defensive/counter based martial arts created by who's arguably the greatest martial artist to have ever lived, but apparently it's something that can be taught and learned at least on a basic level by anyone who's willing to put in effort. Sure, we never see another disciple reach Garou or Bang's level, but Orochi manages to copy it instantly without any problem. Meanwhile even after practicing for years Garou can't quite catch up to Bang until reaching his monster form. (you can say however that his technique mimicry and learning have gotten much better after he becomes a monster.)
Other than that Garou has a pretty good skill chain of beating other superhumanly skilled martial masters. (Wich is a problem in OPM, since a lot of the people Garou fights that isn't Bang really don't have that many skill feats, as OPM is not as nearly martial arts focused as the OG DB and GoH.) More experience. (He's legit old enough to be Garou's father.) Can learn techniques that people have been trying to learn for billions of years (like Ultra instinct.) has Analytical prediction bordering on precog that lets him predict teleportation on people comparable to him in skill and speed, and eventually Hit's time skipping (wich coouuldd be argued as him reacting to infinite speed if that wasn't beyond ridiculous). and likely much more, since i'm not really that qualified to talk about Goku. If i had to gauge their techniques it would be
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You realize that Garou literally copied EHRF, TFTF, PAF, LBIRF. FP RF, Yatagarasu, PPKF, POF, LFR, from just a glance, was able to fuse it into one style, and a couple minutes later, perfected and mastered said style.

Garou was also able to copy Awakening Breath- a secret WSRSF technique again from just a glance.
 
Might guy has impressive stuff like fighting Sharingan users with godly precog and analytical prediction, being undisputedly one of the greatest taijutsu masters, nominated by a legend like Madara who can take endless waves of fodder ninja (who still go through an absurd amount of training, since being a ninja is like the only career option in the ninja village) in taijutsu alone. He kinda falls flat to the rest in terms of how effective his techniques are and how hard to master they are. He also lacks in other skill feats like growth speed (since he already starts more or less close to his peak.), Fancy techniques( no real dura neg and 8 gates are kinda hard to properly measure when compared to properly explained techniques like in Baki or muh billion years to master ki control technique in dragonball) and general stuff like analytical precog and instinctive reactions. (He does get some amazing choreography tho, he can also wield nunchakus, wich is cool.)
 
Kachon123 said:
You realize that Garou literally copied EHRF, TFTF, PAF, LBIRF. FP RF, Yatagarasu, PPKF, POF, LFR, from just a glance, was able to fuse it into one style, and a couple minutes later, perfected and mastered said style.

Garou was also able to copy Awakening Breath- a secret WSRSF technique again from just a glance.
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Yeah, but i'm wanking Goku since i'm far from a Dragon ball expert to properly debate his skill. Could be about it or much more than what i'm saying.
 
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