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Also, is it possible to calc how fast AS is for being able to react and move a bit before the volley hit him?

Since the bullets are High Hypersonic, this could probably yield MHS or MHS+.
PPP should get "At Least Low 7-B" for being able to block attacks from Merged Melz.

Metal Bat should also be "At least Low 7-B, higher with Fighting Spirit," for the same reason.
Thoughts?
 
Do you guys think this could be possibly use to scale EC above Gouketsu? She treated the first division: Gouketsu along with Cockroach-man & DOS as an ordinary means while treated EC and the others as an ace/trump card (And before someone make an argument that he is also one of those ace she is talking about, he is blatantly not hence he was deployed first before the others, along with Cockroach-man and DOS) she is even worried that Gouketsu might've meet heroes on the way while leaving EC alone, is not, since she believed "only few" heroes can take him down and now this is even more interesting since she used EC death as an example to fear the heroes despite knowing Gouketsu just died recently and the Genos statement what's the correct translation for it?
 
I thought you were referring to weakened Tats, whom I was referring to with the whole sporadic powers thing.

We're both losing track, it seems.
 
Do you guys think this could be possibly use to scale EC above Gouketsu? She treated the first division: Gouketsu along with Cockroach-man & DOS as an ordinary means while treated EC and the others as an ace/trump card (And before someone make an argument that he is also one of those ace she is talking about, he is blatantly not hence he was deployed first before the others, along with Cockroach-man and DOS) she is even worried that Gouketsu might've meet heroes on the way while leaving EC alone, is not, since she believed "only few" heroes can take him down and now this is even more interesting since she used EC death as an example to fear the heroes despite knowing Gouketsu just died recently and the Genos statement what's the correct translation for it?
Neutral, leaning towards agreeing
 
She treated the first division: Gouketsu along with Cockroach-man & DOS as an ordinary means while treated EC and the others as an ace/trump card (And before someone make an argument that he is also one of those ace she is talking about, he is blatantly not hence he was deployed first before the others, along with Cockroach-man and DOS) she is even worried that Gouketsu might've meet heroes on the way while leaving EC alone, is not, since she believed "only few" heroes can take him down and now this is even more interesting since she used EC death as an example to fear the heroes despite knowing Gouketsu just died recently and the Genos statement what's the correct translation for it?
EC was dead by the time of that second panel, and Gouketsu would no longer be an option. Additionally, Orochi, Hellfire Flame and Psykos repeatedly refers to both of them as big losses and heavy hitters.
Why though? There is still nothing against meteor scaling
I forgot about that.

Anyway, this meteor scaling of which you speak is cursed and terrible.
 
Can someone tell me if speed can be upscaled? Beacuse Psykorochi is only 1.2× away from sub-relativistic and Genos seems to be faster than Psykorochi's attacks
 
EC was dead by the time of that second panel,
I know but i think he is one of those as he stated ordinary means isn't enough after all *Then proceed to summoned EC and the others after it
Gouketsu would no longer be an option.
He is never been an option to begin with pyskos herself isn't confident she can use him to wipe the class S heroes
Additionally, Orochi, Hellfire Flame and Psykos repeatedly refers to both of them as big losses and heavy hitters.
Uh uh ?

No matter how you look at it the current tiering is pure Garbage i know you guys just can't find a way to scale them and shit but still...
 
I know but i think he is one of those as he stated ordinary means isn't enough after all *Then proceed to summoned EC and the others after it
That strongly depends on if Psykos was summoning him to take on this person, which she wasn't. It was just to retrieve Garou and bolster their ranks. Also, she never suggests any S-Class killed Gouketsu, and the other monsters were attacked by the Association themselves, while Nyan was sent to recruit.

The Monster Association sent Wolf, Tiger and powerful Demon levels (including ones on par with and stronger than DSK) against the Association in various waves. Are they superior to Gouketsu just because they were summoned after him to attack the Association?

The fact is, she just wants as many people as possible because the Hero Association could have trump cards.
He is never been an option to begin with pyskos herself isn't confident she can use him to wipe the class S heroes
Some of whom she believes can take on EC, which were coincidentally the same heroes Genos believed would be needed to go after Gouketsu.
So if everyone except Gouketsu is an ace, how is he a heavy hitter?
No matter how you look at it the current tiering is pure Garbage i know you guys just can't find a way to scale them and shit but still...
This here scaling is much more whack, especially if you mean all the Cadres by 'the others after it'.
 
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That strongly depends on if she was summoning him to take on this person. She never suggests any S-Class killed Gouketsu,
Not assuming who killed Gouketsu doesn't mean it's because she believes none in class S heroes could've done it that also contradict her worries about him being slaughtered by the S class heroes on the way

She didn't have that same worries on EC since she's confident enough that only few heroes can take him down.
And the other monsters were attacked by the Association themselves, while Nyan was sent to recruit.
I don't see any connections here
Plus, they also sent Wolf, Tiger and Demon levels against the Association in various waves. Are they superior to Gouketsu just because they were summoned after him?
When i said "others" I don't mean those fodders i mean the others executive of Monster association such as HE, BC, EC and so on.
The fact is, she just wants as many people as possible because the Hero Association could have trump cards.
Uh
Some of whom she believes can take on EC.
So you agree that the reason why she is worried about him meeting the S heroes on the way is because some of them are capable of bringing EC down?
So if everyone except Gouketsu is an ace, how is he a heavy hitter?
Yeah since when he become the heavy hitter i wonder?
This here scaling is much more whack, especially if you mean all the Cadres by 'the others after it'.
As i said above ^ and no it's not whack you just immediately assumed I'm also talking to those fodders

But alright alright i get it you really do believed that he's stronger than EC, HE, and BS and HE > BS **** it I'm out
 
Not assuming who killed Gouketsu doesn't mean it's because she believes none in class S heroes could've done it that also contradict her worries about him being slaughtered by the S class heroes on the way
She refers to a trump cards in your panels.

As for being slaughtered by S-Class, she says no such thing, just that he'll have a hard time.
She didn't have that same worries on EC since she's confident enough that only few heroes can take him down.
She said 4 individual heroes could win in single combat. She didn't say multiple S-Classes like with Gouketsu.
I don't see any connections here
Because none of them were sent after the hero specifically. They were sent to do their respective missions, which largely took place before Gouketsu was even killed.
When i said "others" I don't mean those fodders i mean the others executive of Monster association such as HE, BC, EC and so on.
Which is drawing a pretty arbitrary line. Psykos never said any of the monsters she'll send out from now on will be superior to Gouketsu. She also very blatantly doesn't send out monsters anywhere near that power, despite wanting to conserve numbers.
She just wants as many people as possible because the Hero Association might have something powerful. Your scan doesn't suggest that they need people superior to Gouketsu.
So you agree that the reason why she is worried about him meeting the S heroes on the way is because some of them are capable of bringing EC down?
What I agree is that neither of them can wipe out the S-Class heroes like you're trying to claim EC can. Nobody ever said it's specifically because they're powerful enough to take out EC, and Psykos specified multiple heroes.

It's exactly these kinds of leaps in logic that's lead to this scaling.
Yeah since when he become the heavy hitter i wonder?
Since everyone said he was.
As i said above ^ and no it's not whack you just immediately assumed I'm also talking to those fodders
Let's see here. VFU is on par with Darkshine, and significantly more powerful than base Fuhrer to the point of escaping out of Gums. Yet Gouketsu is more powerful than Darkshine, putting him above Fuhrer Ugly, ENW and Gums. Considering that DS is the pillar of the Hero world, he's likely above Nyan too.
But alright alright i get it you really do believed that he's stronger than EC, HE, and BS and HE > BS **** it I'm out
I don't actually care. I just find your points inaccurate. You might even say...worthless.

Also, BS was terrified of HE's energy spheres and wanted to take him off guard to win. So, yeah, he's more powerful.
 
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At this point I feel like we should just make a discussion rule about Goketsu scaling.
 
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