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The Orochi ray pushes the Earth's core apart

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ByAsura said:
It's not shown, what we see is Orochi putting his tail under magma.
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That's literally how it is, he stretches his tail straight down to the planet corr. You saying he that is headcanon. Mine ain't literally show how he pull the energy or magma
ByAsura said:
Why shouldn't it cause physical effects, and why would the tail going down to the core have any bearing on the physical effects?
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Energy is a nonphysical shit
ByAsura said:
It's not really an attack, though. The beam that he throws at Saitama is the attack, and he just collected energy.
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Okay?
 
We literally never see that. You talk about headcanon, yet you're just making stuff up.

Energy is a property. It can affect stuff.

That last part was referring to someone else.
 
Could be either of those. My point is just that we don't see anything.

It's completely superfluous, anyway.
 
ByAsura said:
We literally never see that. You talk about headcanon, yet you're just making stuff up.

Energy is a property. It can affect stuff.

That last part was referring to someone else.
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I'm not making stuff up it literally showed he'll suck the energy through his tail
 
Why wouldn't he? He sucks energy out of the earth through his tail, so it makes sense to put his tail to the ground.
 
He said pull and not suck if it's suck no physical effects should happen, it should like how people sucking mana out of thin air
 
Pull just means to exert force. If you suck something towards yourself, you're also pulling it.

Where are you getting this notion that it'd have no physical effects?
 
Nothing suggests that would be the case.

Anyway, this discussion is completely superfluous.
 
Aren't you approaching this discussion the entirely wrong way?

Our standards for this type of situation is to create a thread in our calc group forum, which links to the relevant different calculations for a feat, and let the calc group members decide which of them that is most reliable to use.

It is not up to other members to decide according to our rules.
 
If that is the case, some of the calc group have already given their opinions. They've agreed on NikHelton's 30-second end.

Also, we've been talking about important scaling and other stuff.
 
Okay. Which calc group members agreed, and did they inspect each calculation for the feat?
 
What I said was that we should go with the feat and replace Boros' ratings, but it's simply not even lifting strength.

And I argued against it being an outlier. Yes, it's technically an outlier, but only in the sense that the other feats are casual, done with the aftershock of the attack, and extremely vague (likely somewhat higher, too, because of inverse-square law).
 
ByAsura said:
What I said was that we should go with the feat and replace Boros' ratings, but it's simply not even lifting strength.

And I argued against it being an outlier. Yes, it's technically an outlier, but only in the sense that the other feats are casual, done with the aftershock of the attack, and extremely vague (likely somewhat higher, too, because of inverse-square law).
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I have said this many times already, the other feats yes while they can be higher we have no way of knowing so we just go with what we know.
And so far the only feat that can be said to be casual is pychos' own, Boros feat burned him out. Tatsumaki feat strained her. I am cool with it being 5C and all but it is more about the consistency I am worried about.
That said I actually read through the thread and saw what you said about the fact that it may not be the tail that distorted the core but the energy pulled, and yes that's another scenario that is more plausible.
 
If you want wiki pages unlocked, you need to write a list of their EXACTLY WORDED titles, so the script that I use can handle it.
 
To be honest, I have already forgotten how scripts are written in closed profiles.

I just wanted to put level 5-C and Moon level+ for Saitama, Orochi, Psykos and one of the Genos and Boros keys.
 
Look, just write a list of the EXACTLY WORDED page titles, so my automated script can unlock the pages. That is all.
 
Pain_to12 said:
And so far the only feat that can be said to be casual is pychos' own, Boros feat burned him out. Tatsumaki feat strained her. I am cool with it being 5C and all but it is more about the consistency I am worried about.

That said I actually read through the thread and saw what you said about the fact that it may not be the tail that distorted the core but the energy pulled, and yes that's another scenario that is more plausible.
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Tatsumaki has no Multi-Continent level feats, and Boros' is unknown.

I didn't mean that. He pulled out energy with his tail and the energy distorted the core, so it's not lifting strength. It wasn't about AP or anything.
 
NikHelton said:
1)Saitama

Tier: 9-B | 9-A, up to at least 8-B | At least 5-C, likely far higher

Attack Potency: Wall level (Should at least be comparable to himself as a 12 years old child) | Small Building level (Survived two blows from Personification Of A Light Pull Cord), up to at least City Block level (After breaking his limiter and going through the process of fully removing it, became strong enough to effortlessly one shot both Light Pull Cord and even 170,000 Year Magicicada Nymph) | At least Moon level+ (Casually overpowered Orochi's Gaia Cannon. Overpowered Boros' Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon attack while holding back), likely far higher[note 1]

Speed: Superhuman (Outsped Crabrante) | Supersonic (Accomplished this feat) | At least Relativistic+ (Far faster than Flashy Flash. Blitzed Boros casually), possibly at least FTL (Casually intercepted Geryuganshoop's pitches at this speed)

Lifting Strength: Unknown | Unknown, likely Superhuman | At least Class P (Much stronger than the likes of Tornado of Terror ), likely far higher

Striking Strength: Wall Class | Small Building Class, up to at least City Block Class | At least Moon level+, likely far higher

Durability: Wall level | Small Building level, up to at least City Block level | At least Moon level+, likely far higher

2)Orochi

Tier: High 6-A, 5-С with the Gaia Cannon

Attack Potency: Multi-Continent level (As a Dragon+ level monster, it should not be much inferior to Released Boros) , Moon level+ with the Gaia Cannon (Distorted the Earth's core, pulling energy out of it)

Speed: At least Massively Hypersonic (Easily superior to the likes of Garou. Geryuganshoop has little to no chance of besting him, even with help from Groribas and Melzalgald. Should be far superior to Black Sperm and Homeless Emperor)

Lifting Strength: Class G (Must not be inferior to Tank Top Master)

Striking Strength: Multi-Continent Class, Moon Class+ with the Gaia Cannon

Durability: Multi-Continent level, likely Moon level+ (Withstood having part of the Earth's core inside his body)
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Where is the high 6-A coming from? Shouldn't Orochi just be 5-C?
 
ByAsura said:
Tatsumaki has no Multi-Continent level feats, and Boros' is unknown.
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Boros has some feats calculated to be tier 6, So why won't someone weaker than them performing 5C a thousands times higher than their other feat an outlier?
ByAsura said:
I didn't mean that. He pulled out energy with his tail and the energy distorted the core, so it's not lifting strength. It wasn't about AP or anything.
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What are you suggesting then?
 
Pain_to12 said:
Boros has some feats calculated to be tier 6, So why won't someone weaker than them performing 5C a thousands times higher than their other feat an outlier?
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No CSRC method is currently accepted, and the other is the durability of a ship that he was ripping apart effortlessly (and a Continent level ship, so it's already leagues below his actual strength and not really applicable to what you're saying).
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What are you suggesting then?
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As I said, it's not applicable lifting strength like we had it as. This was way earlier in the thread and it's been accepted.
 
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