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The only EC that Orochi would know about is pre-molt, and that's the EC that he implied was on par with Gouketsu.
 
Pre-Molt EC scales to Bang and Bomb, both of whom downscale from Garou who is stronger than Darkshine at least in AP. Post-Molt EC scales above his pre-molt self and possibly above Goukestu. Goukestu scales above CK and CK downscales from Darkshine. Does that make sense?
 
No one knows about post molt. Thats an at the moment transformation. Psykos, or Orochi wouldn't know that post-molt is even a thing.
The only EC that Orochi would know about is pre-molt, and that's the EC that he implied was on par with Gouketsu.
The implication isn't solid enough for even a possibly, the only reason we even added it was to try back up Genos' statement.

Post molt is can probably scale to High 7-A tho. Same goes with Geno's USIC
 
Pre-Molt EC scales to Bang and Bomb, both of whom downscale from Garou who is stronger than Darkshine at least in AP. Post-Molt EC scales above his pre-molt self and possibly above Goukestu. Goukestu scales above CK and CK downscales from Darkshine. Does that make sense?
Bang and Bomb were smashing EC, sending them back was their best feat, and even then, they weren't harm.
According to some of the justifications on some profiles we do.
Actually never mind, Bomb and Bang should scale above Half Monster Garou.
 
Because he never straight up says that? It's not even as solid as Geno's statement.
Genos wondered if any other monster was on the level of post-molt EC. This is justification that post-molt EC > Gouketsu. This would mean that it wouldn't be far off to use Orochi's implications of Gouketsu = pre-molt EC as the truth.
 
Genos wondered if any other monster was on the level of post-molt EC. This is justification that post-molt EC > Gouketsu. This would mean that it wouldn't be far off to use Orochi's implications of Gouketsu = pre-molt EC as the truth.
Him saying EC was powerful still wouldn't mean he's full on par. Plus Post Molt is High 7-A anyway so.
 
At least High 7-A:

  • Golden Sperm (Used his chadness to clap Darkshine)

High 7-A:

  • Darkshine's durability (Is massively above his own AP
  • Pre-Awakened Garou (Far stronger than before)
  • AB Bang (fought on par with Pre-Awakened Garou)
  • Post-Molt EC (Bang needed to go into AB in order to fight him)
  • Gouketsu (Superior to CK)
  • Psykos (Far superior to Multi-eye Gyoro Gyoro)
  • Promoted rook (Matched PSykojet)

At least 7-A+:

  • Superalloy Darkshine's casually above the 800+ megaton metal
  • Carnage Mode CK (Fough on par with Superalloy Darkshine)
  • Vomit Fuhrer
  • Rover's durability
  • Boros, superior to Melzalgald
  • Genos (Downscales from Psykojet)
  • Drive Knight (Downscales from Psykojet)
  • Nyan (Scales to Drive Knight)

7-A+:

  • Initial Half-Monster Garou (Survived several attacks from a casual Super Alloy Darkshine, who was more serious then when he smashed the random monster)
  • Rover's AP, was able to easily defeat Half-Monster Garou
  • Gyoro Gyoro (Could restrain human Garou
  • Bang and Bomb (Bang was able to deflect Darkshine's attack while Garou got clapped)
  • Atomic Samurai (Superior to Garou)
  • Flashy Flash (Superior to Garou)
  • Black Sperm (Can harm Atomic Samurai)
  • Metal Knight with prep time (Can harm his own buildings with preparations)
  • Fubuki (blocked an attack from Rover)

At most 7-A+:

  • Single headed Melzalgald (One single headed one could somewhat harm Bang)
I think that's all who scales
 
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At least High 7-A:

  • Golden Sperm (Used his chadness to clap Darkshine)

High 7-A:

  • Darkshine's durability (Is massively above his own AP
  • Pre-Awakened Garou (Far stronger than before)
  • AB Bang (fought on par with Pre-Awakened Garou)
  • Post-Molt EC (Bang needed to go into AB in order to fight him)

At least 7-A+:

  • Superalloy Darkshine's casually above the 800+ metal
  • Carnage Mode CK (Fough on par with Superalloy Darkshine)
  • Gouketsu (Superior to CK)
  • Vomit Fuhrer
  • Rover's durability

7-A+:

  • Initial Half-Monster Garou (Survived several attacks from a casual Super Alloy Darkshine, who was more serious then when he smashed the random monster)
  • Rover's AP, was able to easily defeat Half-Monster Garou
  • Bang and Bomb (Bang was able to deflect Darkshine's attack while Garou got clapped)
  • Atomic Samurai (Superior to Garou)
  • Flashy Flash (Superior to Garou)
  • Black Sperm (Can harm Atomic Samurai)

At most 7-A+:

  • Single headed Melzalgald (One single headed one could somewhat harm Bang)
I think that's all who scales
Do you think AS, Flashy, and Rover should get At least 7-A+?

Also, pre-molt EC should be in 7-A+ or At least 7-A+ via BS needing HE to defeat him.
 
At least High 7-A:

  • Golden Sperm (Used his chadness to clap Darkshine)

High 7-A:

  • Darkshine's durability (Is massively above his own AP
  • Pre-Awakened Garou (Far stronger than before)
  • AB Bang (fought on par with Pre-Awakened Garou)
  • Post-Molt EC (Bang needed to go into AB in order to fight him)

At least 7-A+:

  • Superalloy Darkshine's casually above the 800+ metal
  • Carnage Mode CK (Fough on par with Superalloy Darkshine)
  • Gouketsu (Superior to CK)
  • Vomit Fuhrer
  • Rover's durability

7-A+:

  • Initial Half-Monster Garou (Survived several attacks from a casual Super Alloy Darkshine, who was more serious then when he smashed the random monster)
  • Rover's AP, was able to easily defeat Half-Monster Garou
  • Bang and Bomb (Bang was able to deflect Darkshine's attack while Garou got clapped)
  • Atomic Samurai (Superior to Garou)
  • Flashy Flash (Superior to Garou)
  • Black Sperm (Can harm Atomic Samurai)

At most 7-A+:

  • Single headed Melzalgald (One single headed one could somewhat harm Bang)
I think that's all who scales
Metal Knight with prep and maybe his drones durability? Drive Knight, Genos, Nyan, Gyro/Psykos? Goribas because he scales above Melz. Other than that its looking good.
 
Do you think AS, Flashy, and Rover should get At least 7-A+?

Also, EC should be in 7-A+ or At least 7-A+ via BS needing HE to defeat him.
I don't think they're that above Garou to be given At least.

I'm pretty sure the statement is that Gyoro Gyoro thought Pre Molt EC < Tatsumaki, and that Gyoro thought Tatsumaki < Black Sperm + HM
 
Metal Knight with prep and maybe his drones durability? Drive Knight, Genos, Nyan, Gyro/Psykos? Goribas because he scales above Melz. Other than that its looking good.
Groribas doesn't have proof of that, all the others is a no, as they don't have shwoings to scale them to 7-A+

I forgot Metal Knight
 
I think the at least might be a little unnecessary for GS, at least right now. Though I don't care that much.

Also, Bang and Bomb should still downscale to Mountain level, as I've explained.

For Melz, I think at least City level, possibly Mountain level makes sense. His hit was definitely stronger than pre-molt EC's, but it only did momentary and non-visible damage to Bang.
 
I think at least LML might be a little unnecessary for GS.
He was able to one-shot Darkshine, that's enough for an At least.

Also, Bang and Bomb should still downscale to Mountain level, as I've explained.
800 Petatons isn't enough for a downscale, is it not? Plus Darkshine damaging the metal was an extremely casual feat, he definitely put more effort into fighting Bang or Garou then he did slamming that monster into the wall
 
Yes, but even their combos have been shown to not reach the level of DS' attacks.

He put like zero effort into making him vomit blood. The thing he did put effort into was obliterating his ribcage.
 
I don't think they're that above Garou to be given At least.
If not AS and Flashy, why not Rover? He nearly killed him. Garou only lived because he got hit to Gyoro, then evolved a bit more.
I'm pretty sure the statement is that Gyoro Gyoro thought Pre Molt EC < Tatsumaki, and that Gyoro thought Tatsumaki < Black Sperm + HM
So can Pre-Molt scale to At least 7-A+?
 
800 Petatons isn't enough for a downscale, is it not? Plus Darkshine damaging the metal was an extremely casual feat, he definitely put more effort into fighting Bang or Garou then he did slamming that monster into the wall
800 Petatons is High 6-A
 
Pre-Molt EC is still on par with Gouketsu, so either way he would just scale to the 700 MT clac for Gouketsu.
 
I just explained. Even their combos have shown to be below DS' hits, such as PsykoJet and Rover.

Nothing implies Pre-Molt is on par with Gouketsu, just that he's a Dragon level heavy hitter, as Hellfire Flame put it. I've been planning to remove those statements for a while now. Also, Gouketsu scales above casual DS via Genos' data.
 
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