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[ByAsura]

I think the at least might be a little unnecessary for GS, at least right now. Though I don't care that much.

Also, Bang and Bomb should still downscale to Mountain level, as I've explained.

For Melz, I think at least City level, possibly Mountain level makes sense. His hit was definitely stronger than pre-molt EC's, but it only did momentary and non-visible damage to Bang.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I think at least LML might be a little unnecessary for GS.

He was able to one-shot Darkshine, that's enough for an At least.

Also, Bang and Bomb should still downscale to Mountain level, as I've explained.

800 Petatons isn't enough for a downscale, is it not? Plus Darkshine damaging the metal was an extremely casual feat, he definitely put more effort into fighting Bang or Garou then he did slamming that monster into the wall

 

[ByAsura]

Yes, but even their combos have been shown to not reach the level of DS' attacks.

He put like zero effort into making him vomit blood. The thing he did put effort into was obliterating his ribcage.

 

[Kachon123]

I don't think they're that above Garou to be given At least.

If not AS and Flashy, why not Rover? He nearly killed him. Garou only lived because he got hit to Gyoro, then evolved a bit more.

I'm pretty sure the statement is that Gyoro Gyoro thought Pre Molt EC < Tatsumaki, and that Gyoro thought Tatsumaki < Black Sperm + HM

So can Pre-Molt scale to At least 7-A+?

 

[Kachon123]

800 Petatons isn't enough for a downscale, is it not? Plus Darkshine damaging the metal was an extremely casual feat, he definitely put more effort into fighting Bang or Garou then he did slamming that monster into the wall

800 Petatons is High 6-A

 

[ByAsura]

@Kachon Garou's evolved, post-Orochi form is what scales to Darkshine to begin with.

 

[Kachon123]

@Kachon Garou's evolved, post-Orochi form is what scales to Darkshine to begin with.

Ok.

Also, Bang and Bomb should still downscale to Mountain level, as I've explained.

Why would they downscale that low?

 

[Kachon123]

Pre-Molt EC is still on par with Gouketsu, so either way he would just scale to the 700 MT clac for Gouketsu.

 

[ByAsura]

I just explained. Even their combos have shown to be below DS' hits, such as PsykoJet and Rover.

Nothing implies Pre-Molt is on par with Gouketsu, just that he's a Dragon level heavy hitter, as Hellfire Flame put it. I've been planning to remove those statements for a while now. Also, Gouketsu scales above casual DS via Genos' data.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So can Pre-Molt scale to At least 7-A+?

I don't think so

800 Petatons is High 6-A

Megatons I meant, my bad

Also Bang was able to deflect all of Darkshine's attacks while Garou was busy getting clapped

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I'm lost guys, are we scaling them to Gouketsu or that Metal Knight stuff ?

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah I’m lost too, why are we scaling everyone to 7-A+ now?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Yeah I’m lost too, why are we scaling everyone to 7-A+ now?

Because Darkshine could break the walls of the HA, which are supposedly made of the same metal as the exterior metal, which is calculated to be 7-A+

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Oh, that's nice

 

[Kachon123]

How strong is baseline Dragon Level?

 

[ByAsura]

Stronger than Bug God, Genos and TTM, I imagine.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

How strong is baseline Dragon Level?

Unquantifiably or massively above the strongest demons. Or basically Baseline Low 7-B (1.22 Megatons), which is what the strongest demons scale to.

Also your thoughts on Boros being superior to the meteor?

Also ByAsura, opinions on this?

I'm neutral towards it, I don't really care if Boros scales to it or not.

 

[ByAsura]

Which Boros? Unreleased, Released, Meteoric Burst?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Unreleased

 

[ByAsura]

Not sure.

The meteor was just a normal punch, but he also seemed very intent on stopping it from destroying Z-City. So it could be higher than what he uses to kill monsters normally.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

What about released and MB? This is for webcomic btw

 

[ByAsura]

100% yes.

I actually scale them above it.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

This would scale to Darkshine, Post darkshine HM Garou, AB Bang, Post-Molt EC and Genos' Ultra spiral incineration cannon right?

And CK naturally, among quite a few other strong Dragons

I actually scale them above it.

Working on Webcomic profiles, I assume?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Working on Webcomic profiles, I assume?

Yep. I'm actually almost done with Saitama's profile. I just need to fix the scans.

And CK naturally, among quite a few other strong Dragons

I included him, the full list is here btw.

At least High 7-A:

• Golden Sperm (Used his chadness to clap Darkshine)

High 7-A:

• Darkshine's durability (Is massively above his own AP
• Pre-Awakened Garou (Far stronger than before)
• AB Bang (fought on par with Pre-Awakened Garou)
• Post-Molt EC (Bang needed to go into AB in order to fight him)

At least 7-A+:

• Superalloy Darkshine's casually above the 800+ megaton metal
• Carnage Mode CK (Fough on par with Superalloy Darkshine)
• Gouketsu (Superior to CK)
• Vomit Fuhrer
• Rover's durability

7-A+:

• Initial Half-Monster Garou (Survived several attacks from a casual Super Alloy Darkshine, who was more serious then when he smashed the random monster)
• Rover's AP, was able to easily defeat Half-Monster Garou
• Bang and Bomb (Bang was able to deflect Darkshine's attack while Garou got clapped)
• Atomic Samurai (Superior to Garou)
• Flashy Flash (Superior to Garou)
• Black Sperm (Can harm Atomic Samurai)
• Metal Knight with prep time (Can harm his own buildings with preparations)

At most 7-A+:

• Single headed Melzalgald (One single headed one could somewhat harm Bang)

I think that's all who scales

 

[ByAsura]

I could see Gouketsu scaling above his own feat. It's only the shockwave created in combat.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

He pretty much does at this point

 

[ImposingTiger]

Not sure.

The meteor was just a normal punch, but he also seemed very intent on stopping it from destroying Z-City. So it could be higher than what he uses to kill monsters normally.

We are not scaling off of Saitama.

The argument is that Boros should scale above the meteor for the virtue of being an Above Dragon. His current Armored Form 6-C justification is being superior to HE's energy ball, which is exactly the same as the meteor, a one shot attack.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

100% yes.

I actually scale them above it.

I'm kinda surprised that we have no speed feats beyond High Hypersonic, who did the feat ?

Also, about Fubuki:

• Shaking a minor area should not be assumed to automatically translate to an earthquake. Either a large area being shaken or evidence that we are dealing with something earthquake-like and not just some minor shaking would be needed.

If she only shook a building, I don't think she should scale to a whole Earthquake

 

[Kachon123]

The argument is that Boros should scale above the meteor for the virtue of being an Above Dragon. His current Armored Form 6-C justification is being superior to HE's energy ball, which is exactly the same as the meteor, a one shot attack.

We don't scale Armored Boros off of the 6-C ball alone. We scale him off of the character himself, who is able to output the attack.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'm kinda surprised that we have no speed feats beyond High Hypersonic, who did the feat ?

I think it's from Sonic, he was moving so fast that raindrops were standing still.

 

[ImposingTiger]

We don't scale Armored Boros off of the 6-C ball alone. We scale him off of the character himself, who is able to output the attack.

It doesn't matter. It is still the same.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also I gotta love the fact we can basically do Garou vs Garou depending on what end is chosen for the meteor. (Hopefully High 7-A)

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Not only that but Golden S Vs Garou: The Reckoning

Garou defeats Webcomic Golden S

Portal appears and Manga Golden S comes out

Round 2

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The way I see it, in terms of sheer strength, webcomic Garou is better (His High 7-A AP is higher while Manga is only Baseline, and Manga only has Class G while webcomic has Class T), but Manga Garou demonstrates better skill feats and abilities than his Webcomic self

 

[ByAsura]

We are not scaling off of Saitama.

The argument is that Boros should scale above the meteor for the virtue of being an Above Dragon. His current Armored Form 6-C justification is being superior to HE's energy ball, which is exactly the same as the meteor, a one shot attack.

Not sure why we're even considering Armoured Boros as the one who's Above Dragon.

I'm kinda surprised that we have no speed feats beyond High Hypersonic, who did the feat ?

Also, about Fubuki:

If she only shook a building, I don't think she should scale to a whole Earthquake

Sonic, who moved so fast that raindrops were frozen. Bang's meteor feat is probably much higher.

I kind of agree, but it was from another part of the city.

 

[Kachon123]

Bang's meteor feat is probably much higher.

Bang meteor feat..?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Not sure why we're even considering Armoured Boros as the one who's Above Dragon.

Because if ONE wanted to be specific, he would've?

 

[ByAsura]

He hit them roughly all at once.

Because if ONE wanted to be specific, he would've?

You could use this same argument to say Garou scales to Armoured Boros, you know.

 

[Kachon123]

He hit them roughly all at once.

Link doesn't work.

 

[ByAsura]

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