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Actually, I don't even see the point in this. Released Orochi's already above HE, and we don't really have proof that Psykos was referring to his base form.
 
A few days ago someone told me we didn't scale off of hype, but that seems to be what's going on here lol.

Why would psychos know how much power he has when his power comes from God?
So what if his power comes from God? Why would it not be quantifiable?
 
To be fair there's no proof either way. There's not enough evidence in the story to prove weather she knew the full extent or not. But there is nothing proving she knew HE full power except with speculation.
 
Anyway, other topics. New CRT is getting a bit big and I might split it into 2 to 3 parts in order to slim it down. So the thread won't be convoluted.

At most, it'll arrive this weekend
 
Can I ask for a very brief summary of all the main points? Ex. "BS varies tier".
 
If he manifests it the same way Vaccine man does then there wouldn't be a way to sense his energy passively.
Vaccine Man draws power from the Earth itself, whereas HE was just given abilities (at least from his exact wording). But, like I said, it doesn't really even matter anymore.
 
Can I ask for a very brief summary of all the main points? Ex. "BS varies tier".
  • Minor updates
  • Some other downgrades
  • Boros calc update
  • possibly 7-A+ scaling revisions
  • 6-C upgrades
  • 7-B upgrades
  • Garou's reworked page
  • Several other random upgrades
 
Vaccine Man draws power from the Earth itself, whereas HE was just given abilities (at least from his exact wording). But, like I said, it doesn't really even matter anymore.
It never did, I was never arguing who was stronger lol just the future scaling chain if he gets better feats. We shall wait and see.
 
Also did we ever accept EC > VM via it being stated that EC was a natural disaster and stuff? All I remember from that conversation getting derailed to the timeline of events.
 
@Quant That very much wasn't the point I was making.

@Emirp A few people agreed and no one disagreed, IIRC.
 
im so glad that there are people in this thread that are willing to do the heavy lifting aka "sorting out tiers" and stuff because i dont have the mental patience for that and im lazy as ****.

im just here for the memes to be honest.
 
@Asura, Emirp thinks we should auto scale Orochi if HE gets superior feats to him and I was against it. That's essentially the just of it.
 
Oh, so we were talking about hypotheticals to begin with. In that case, I have to agree with you to an extent.

Newer chapters could also reveal that HE deceived Psykos when he performs more powerful feats. If they don't, then I think it's ok to scale him. Let's just wait.
 
Darkshine is just getting the Genos treatment. They're really strong on their own, but just have the misfortune of meeting people who outclass him

  • Garou (Skill Stomp)
  • Vomit Fuhrer (Acid)
  • Golden Sperm (An even bigger Giga Chad in every single way)
Imagine when we get to awakened Garou lmao
Eh, VFU's acid only did 'meager' damage. Darkshine could have given VFU a good fight at least, but he broke down when his muscles started to lose their shine.
 
Eh, VFU's acid only did 'meager' damage. Darkshine could have given VFU a good fight at least, but he broke down when his muscles started to lose their shine.
I mean Fuhrer at least broke his spirit, so that's something. Still nowhere as big as an L Golden Nut gave him
 
I mean Fuhrer at least broke his spirit, so that's something. Still nowhere as big as an L Golden Nut gave him
True enough, it's a practical victory. I really hope Darkshine gets his mojo back against AG just for the character development and moment, his moment against AG is what made me a Darkshine fan originally
 
I hope he does so, but at the same time, he might get an even bigger L than the one golden sperm gave him
Psychologically? I really, really hope not. What I want is Darkshine to get beaten down without giving in and to see him stand up from these massive attacks again and again to the point of irritating AG.
 
Ngl this seems like a whole lot of mental gymnastics just to say HE is stronger than Orochi.

Orochi is repeatedly stated to be the strongest member of the Monster Association, which HE is a part of. Orochi is an Above Dragon while HE is a mere Dragon. Orochi scales above Geryuganshoop, who is a higher degree of 6-C than HE. Orochi is stronger than HE.
Yeah this. I don’t think it needs to be argued any further.
 
Again, GS doesn't exist until after chapter 140. Apples and oranges.
The bigger factor to this, that the webcomic was more clear about, BS cannot unfuse. Once he has created a fuse body that is it.

Its his trump card because he can only every use the move once and in one direction. He can fuse more thing into that new body but that new body cannot unfuse. He obviously doesn't like his fused forms and there's no real indication that he would ever use it outside of a high risk situation like what's happening now.

Personally Orochi scaling is fine imo. Not that he really needs to considering he's already High 6-C. GS I wouldn't scale at all until we get an indication that Murata's quote from forever ago holds up or we get a confirmation that GS ~ Orochi.

Also if I missed something and this is like, a debate. There's.... really nothing for HE. Its like HE vs Carnage Kabuto or Beefcake. Sure his energy balls are strong but them literally breathing in his direction is enough to instantly kill him. Orochi could like, clap his butt checks and the shockwaves could probably OHKO HE.
 
Is it possible to scale his durability with the balls? When he did the carpet bombing he created a barrier of moving balls around himself for protection.
 
Personally Orochi scaling is fine imo. Not that he really needs to considering he's already High 6-C.
We were talking about Orochi’s first form, which is currently ‘At least High 7-A, possibly 6-C,’ not his third form that’s High 6-C.
 
Personally Orochi scaling is fine imo. Not that he really needs to considering he's already High 6-C. GS I wouldn't scale at all until we get an indication that Murata's quote from forever ago holds up or we get a confirmation that GS ~ Orochi.
To be fair Murata never said Golden Sperm = Orochi. He only said he doesn't know who would win as he needs to ask ONE about this. So it's less of Murata saying they are equal but more of him saying he actually doesn't know who is stronger between Golden Sperm and Orochi.
 
Are there any good feats for monsters and humans weaker than s-class in the webcomic? So far, all I have is Street level to Wall level.
 
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