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Wait, quick question, are all their energy equalized? Because Asta can just nullify all of it if yes
Luffy and Naruto have 2 types of "energies".

Luffy has DFs and Haki. Haki most likely will be nullified, but DF abilities won't.
Naruto has Senjutsu Chakra and regular Chakra. Regular Chakra will be nullified, but Senjutsu chakra won't.
 
Now I actually am starting to get irritated. Show me where I was out of hand and I will shut up. I have been calm and rational this ENTIRE time. They resorted to ad hominem attacks, not me. But now suddenly you people villainize me? Show me where I went wrong. I will wait.
There's no villain.

I can contact everyone in this thread except you, you're not the only one. That's why I'm telling you in the thread.

Calm down.
 
Now I actually am starting to get irritated. Show me where I was out of hand and I will shut up. I have been calm and rational this ENTIRE time. They resorted to ad hominem attacks, not me. But now suddenly you people villainize me? Show me where I went wrong. I will wait.
Juss chill my guy it’s not serious.
 
Naruto
Pros
- Dura negging attacks, capable of spamming them
  • Spam clones to help with the fight, to either spam jutsus, act as a bait or just acting as a shield (just like Borushiki did in the manga, and Naruto against Pain)
  • Chakra arms can restrain all 2 here, since strength is equal, and Naruto can create a lot of them
  • Speed amps + precognition
  • Kurama Avatar (Will protect him against all types of attack from Luffy and Asta) and can increase this durability using tails.



Cons
Really don't know.
 
There's no villain.

I can contact everyone in this thread except you, you're not the only one. That's why I'm telling you in the thread.

Calm down.
Whatever. I’m done here. I don’t really get how I get attacked by three people, never respond negatively, and somehow still get called out by the OP and another individual. This site clearly isn’t for me then. I’m tired of this crap.
 
But he is not dumb enough to not use it when he needs it. He never needed it while in said form.
He needed it against Juubito who was faster, didn't use it.
Needed it against a wood dragon, didn't use it.
Needed it against the other Bijuu when they were about to jump on him, didn't use it.
Needed it to save Bee from the dragon, didn't use it.
 
C'mon, we are allowing Luffy to use Ryuo from the start because "he CAN so he WILL", i am pretty sure we have dropped the IC arguments here.
Luffy started off fighting Kaido with Ryuo.
There's a difference between "he can so he will" and "he has done it before".
 
Luffy used ryou right away once he saw kaido how would it not be in character for luffy to use ryou.
He didn't use it right away against Pay Pay and Ulti, who he could have one shot and helped his team A LOT, while Kaido is his very target to even learn Ryou.
 
He needed it against Juubito who was faster, didn't use it
Cause he could predict his movements so it was in fact not needed.
Needed it against a wood dragon, didn't use it
Wooden dragons already restrained him and sapped his chakra.
Needed it against the other Bijuu when they were about to jump on him, didn't use it.
Who said he needed it then?

Needed it to save Bee from the dragon, didn't use it.
He literally did also same reason as Woden dragons.
 
He needed it against Juubito who was faster, didn't use it.
Needed it against a wood dragon, didn't use it.
Needed it against the other Bijuu when they were about to jump on him, didn't use it.
Needed it to save Bee from the dragon, didn't use it.
He'll use it anyway. Used to save Kakashi and co, used to blitz Kisame. it's not out of character, why would he do half of the things you said?
 
He didn't use it right away against Pay Pay and Ulti, who he could have one shot and helped his team A LOT.
Not using it right away on one person ≠ not using it right away in a fight.
He was saving his energy for the big bad.

You're actually trying to use Luffy not using his strongest moves on foot soldiers as justification... really?
 
Because Senjutsu is natural energy and according to ppl, TSO can neg chakra but aren't able to neg senjutsu, so
That's a Naruto thing though. Anti-Magic would be able to bypass it. It's the counter to all magic. Senjjtsu would simply be another energy via equalization. It can even bypass a supreme demons fire magic which can apparently burn even concepts.
 
Cause he could predict his movements so it was in fact not needed.

Wooden dragons already restrained him and sapped his chakra.

Who said he needed it then?


He literally did also same reason as Woden dragons.
He'll use it anyway. Used to save Kakashi and co, used to blitz Kisame. it's not out of character, why would he do half of the things you said?
Fair, he has speed amps
 
He didn't use it right away against Pay Pay and Ulti, who he could have one shot and helped his team A LOT, while Kaido is his very target to even learn Ryou.
PIS or Luffy could just think of them as irrelevant since he was trying to help the scabbards.

Luffy would 100% use Ryou against Naruto or Asta
 
That's a Naruto thing though. Anti-Magic would be able to bypass it. It can even bypass a supreme demons fire magic which can apparently burn even concepts.
I can agree with being able to bypass it, but I don't know about the concept part, if they destroyed the concept, light and darkness would be gone forever, but it wasnt, or it was? it rlly depend, but yeah, if it rlly is not a hyperbole, Asta pretty much can bypass senjutsu
 
Just asking.

How are they going to hit Luffy?

I understand Luffy's gonna have a hard time harming them, but how are they going to even make contact with Luffy?
 
That's a Naruto thing though. Anti-Magic would be able to bypass it. It can even bypass a supreme demons fire magic which can apparently burn even concepts.
Sigurd, it's been years since we only equalize chakra under SBA. It doesn't make any sense to equalize Senjutsu and simply disregard Juubi Jins invulnerability.
 
Just asking.

How are they going to hit Luffy?

I understand Luffy's gonna have a hard time harming them, but how are they going to even make contact with Luffy?
Mass attacks, out smart him, use transformations. Try to reduce his area of movement. Luffy is not untouchable here and esch of these 3 chars have insane senses and combat ability.
 
Just asking.

How are they going to hit Luffy?

I understand Luffy's gonna have a hard time harming them, but how are they going to even make contact with Luffy?
I'm not sure how they would be able to hit luffy due his precog, but is not safe to luffy try to hit Asta due Black Hurricane
 
Not using it right away on one person ≠ not using it right away in a fight.
He was saving his energy for the big bad.

You're actually trying to use Luffy not using his strongest moves on foot soldiers as justification... really?
Foot Soldiers? The Tobiroppo aren't randoms, i am not using his attacks against randoms as proof of not using Ryou.

Luffy was thinking of using G4 against Ulti, he wasn't seeing her as a weak opponent, still didn't use Ryou, and as i put in the edit above, he trained Ryou specifically to use against Kaido, to say he will use it against everyone without proof is really dubious when he didn't use it in his few fights non-kaido post-udon.




He can't use it here due to anti-magic aura, not even Koka, he may keep FS if you guys want, but these others are out.
 
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Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.

Via SBA, the energy that almost everyone uses is equalized. All ninjas and humans in Naruto have chakra. Naruto, Juugo (and Sasuke), Hags, Hamura, Madara, Hashirama, Kashin Koji and people from the sage toads havve senjutsu.
 
Sigurd, it's been years since we only equalize chakra under SBA. It doesn't make any sense to equalize Senjutsu and simply disregard Juubi Jins invulnerability.
Via the verse equalization rules it would be magic since Senjutsu is still supernatural. I can't speak on this invulnerability since I don't know the specifics to how it's treated here.
 
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