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Naruto vs Ichigo vs Luffy vs Asta vs Natsu vs Meliodas vs Deku Vs Rei
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Now.
What in the name of god is Meliodas doing.
What in the name of god is Meliodas doing.
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Lol I have no clue. I feel as though he is the next person that needs to be assessed here.
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I want to point out something, Luffy does not go for the kill in character, he uses ryou against Kaido because he knows nothing else he does can damage him, he didn't use it against Paypay and Ulti. And since i have argued for it before, willing to kill isn't the same as going for the kill from the start.
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He wont get to land a hit on most of these other people and the one guy he could has resistance.
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So can he COUNTER the rasenshuriken and just not null it or what?
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In this scenario, Luffy is surrounded by people who are just as powerful as him (stats are equal) with AoE attacks for days. He will use ryou.
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Isn't his soul hax much better than Meli's resistance?
And with 5 of them, it's either a free for all or a 1v1v1 and 1v1, i really don't think Luffy would be able to avoid all attacks if he was in the 1v1v1
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only if there's no Senjutsu involved. which This Naruto has....
he can still counter Haki.
Question is, can he counter anti magic?
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How exactly? Meli can resist a Demon whose specialization is soul manip for an extended period of time, they even have feats of manipulating hundreds to thousands of people's souls at once.
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Idk. Your rules, since we aren't following SBA with this match.
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I mean logically SDS magic should equalize to BC magic which would mean no he can’t counter anti magic but again your rules.
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SBA is the assumption for verse Equalization. Naruto is just the outlier here.
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I know, we don't have to follow SBA, since we already aren't as it's a stat equalized match. You can decide whether or not to apply SBA, or whatever you choose it to be.
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There are four now. Ichigo has already been taken out. And you are assuming that all of the attacks are directed at him. Luffy before getting FS could dodge attacks blindfolded. He isn’t as easy to hit as you think.
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then there's your answer. my rules for verse = is the same as SBA.
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Luffy isn't the type to "there are two problems let's kill everyone", he wouldn't use it against Deku IMO.
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SBA then, mostly because without it we have to account for too many things that makes the thread needlessly convoluted.
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Ok, so, anti-magic is debatable, and Meliodas can't counter senjutsu infused attacks. He'd have to rely on regeneration and, well, mobility (he can fly btw, with Darkness Wings or without if you count the scene where he's just floating and his darkness ans Mael's light is clashing) to dodge it.
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1) Deku has already been defeated. We have already reached that consensus. 2) This battle is under the assumption that everyone is giving all that they got. None of the characters here hold back to the point where they are consistently losing fights. 3) In this fight, there are no qualms about killing (not that Luffy even has any). Think of Death Battle. These characters are fighting till they KO or kill the other characters. 4) You are basically admitting that Luffy‘s punches with ryou are lethal to the people here.
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I mean, Natsu was also removed before someone tried to argue for him, Ichigo surely can't win but he isn't an easy target as well, he also has the highest stamina here.
Never said Luffy was an easy target, but i really don't think "he will avoid every single attack in the whole fight" is the right path, FS isn't a omnievasion thing.
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Naruto says hi.
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Why Asta is High 6-B.
The only relevant calculation is Low 6-B
The only relevant calculation is Low 6-B
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Ehhhhhhhhhh... Luffy didn't kill anyone so far, not even Doffy.
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The other 3 can fly too as far as I'm aware
And he apparently gets weaker each time he heals
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Fight for long period of times isn't as impressive as fighting people stronger/equal to you for a lot of time and using a lot of jutsus that requires large amounts of chakra.
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I’m not saying that it is. But it is something to be considered. With FS, you typically cannot hit someone unless you 1) outsmart them 2) blitz them or 3) catch them off guard. Luffy’s endurance was established in Whole Cake Island. Luffy’s incredible FS abilities were established in Wano. It is not unfeasible that he can dodge attacks, especially since he was already dodging attacks with regular OH (like Caesar’s point blank AoE explosion). Stats are equal here, so he isn’t getting blitzed.
It wasn’t like he was going out of his way to not kill them. Sometimes he even seems surprised when his opponents survive his attacks. Plus, he is using ryou now, so whether or not he is actively trying to kill his opponent is besides the point. He is using ryou in this fight. End of discussion.
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Thanls
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That's the pseudo-regen with darkness
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Also, they aren't? I have yet to see a counter to it, since Haki deals with regen Meli isn't going to end well if Luffy uses it on him.
Kaido is an entirely different situation than this thread, Luffy would 100% be able to hitkill paytan which would help a lot and even then he didn't.
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Naruto could make hundreds-thousands of clones that could each fight for a day straight. In BSM Naruto has Kurama and Sage Mode which Restore his energy
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I honestly am not sure if you are saying that it is not fair to Meliodas or if Meliodas can survive it. Elaborate.
Not really. The current version of Luffy (which is the one being used in this match) CAN use ryou. So therefore in this match, he WILL use it. Stop trying to make this a match where Luffy suddenly has the moral compass of allowing his opponent to kill him. Luffy will use ryou in this fight. The only one arguing otherwise is you.
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Its certainly lethal in a direct hit but people like naruto can defend from it, not sur eof natsu though.
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dont think naruto can fly
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He can do his weird chakra bird thing? xD.
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Meliodas would normally survive this type of damage, but haki can null regen.
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