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Naruto vs Ichigo vs Luffy vs Asta vs Natsu vs Meliodas vs Deku Vs Rei

Spamming attacks on Luffy, especially FRS which he needs to charge up, while Luffy has future sight, is like wasting chakra.
 
Luffy has ryou which negates durability. He has also consistently punched and knocked out creatures much bigger than himself and stats are equal here. As long as he gets close to Naruto, he can take him out with internal damage.
Ryou can't reach naruto the Kurama Avatar blocks it
 
BSM Kurama Avatar Naruto all have equal AP correct?
Not correct. He would start without the avatar as the avatar is not a transformation. It is just an extension of his transformation.


What's Naruto's Avatar doing to a barrage of attacks with each
His avatar's Dura is far above his AP. So should be the same with Luffy's AP.

So what Luffy is doing is 0 DMG.
 
I think Meli is the next to be defeated

Can Asta null future sight? Or his null works by stopping the others from using their energy? Cause if yes he would have a good advantage against both Naruto and Luffy (who will have his Buso nulled if i got it right)
 
Luffy has ryou which negates durability. He has also consistently punched and knocked out creatures much bigger than himself and stats are equal here. As long as he gets close to Naruto, he can take him out with internal damage.
Not through the avatar he won't.
 
Literally nothing Luffy does can hit naruto and while he is trying to get to naruto he will be fighting multiple clones that can one shot him with rasenshuriken
 
I think Meli is the next to be defeated

Can Asta null future sight? Or his null works by stopping the others from using their energy? Cause if yes he would have a good advantage against both Naruto and Luffy (who will have his Buso nulled if i got it right)
He hasn't been shown to do that. But I agree that Mel is next defeated.
 
I think Meli is the next to be defeated

Can Asta null future sight? Or his null works by stopping the others from using their energy? Cause if yes he would have a good advantage against both Naruto and Luffy (who will have his Buso nulled if i got it right)
I don’t think Asta can stop Luffy from using FS. He was using it with sea stone cuffs on.
 
Not correct. He would start without the avatar as the avatar is not a transformation. It is just an extension of his transformation.
They flat out call his bijuu mode a transformation.
His avatar's Dura is far above his AP. So should be the same with Luffy's AP.
If it's equalized stats, then the dura is equal.
So what Luffy is doing is 0 DMG.
Not at all.
So what? Do you think people with speed equal can't dodge their attacks?
Naruto being slower, less mobile, and huge is a huge disadvantage.
Naruto also has speed amps and precog. What's your point?
When has Naruto used a speed amp in his Tailed Beast Mode?
 
Naruto being slower, less mobile, and huge is a huge disadvantage.
Naruto isn't slower, he can be faster with Shunshin. He literally used this in KCM to attack Kisame and when saved Gyuki, Kakashi and Guy from Madara and Obito. Huge is not an advantage when Luffy is weak as ****.
 
Alright, fair enough. But what properties of Haki count as equalized magic in this case? Haki typically is just Willpower. The energy aspect does not really work like it does in other series.
id say the elements of Haki that most resemble the other power systems, stuff like Busoshoku Haki
 
Naruto isn't slower, he can be faster with Shunshin. He literally used this in KCM to attack Kisame and when saved Gyuki, Kakashi and Guy from Madara and Obito.
In Bijuu Mode? No.
Huge is not an advantage when Luffy is weak as ****.
"Equalized Stats", if Luffy's weak then Naruto's weak
 
They flat out call his bijuu mode a transformation
Yes the base bijuu mode not the kurama avatar....

If it's equalized stats, then the dura is equal
Yes bsm Dura is equalised however avatar Dura is not and it is far above his AP and the Dura even more so.

Not at all
Yes he is.


Naruto being slower, less mobile, and huge is a huge disadvantage.
They have the same speed. Only less mobile is what you have due to flight.
 
id say the elements of Haki that most resemble the other power systems, stuff like Busoshoku Haki
I mean, i know HxH isn't here, but Buso: Koka (the black armament) is like Ten (so it's the verse energy manifested as a solid thing), i don't think it's fair to equalize a single application of the same energy but not the others.
 
Naruto isn't slower, he can be faster with Shunshin. He literally used this in KCM to attack Kisame and when saved Gyuki, Kakashi and Guy from Madara and Obito. Huge is not an advantage when Luffy is weak as ****.
”Luffy is weak” lol
  • (stats equal)
  • Luffy currently damaging someone an entire tier ahead of him.
  • Luffy being able to get stronger WHILE fighting.
 
In Bijuu Mode? No.
So what dude? Do you think Naruto will just let Luffy hit him? First of all, Luffy can't even damage Kurama Avatar, wich can increase its durability with its tails, as seen against Juubi's Bijuu Dama. And what stops Naruto from simply stopping using the Avatar? He can just spam clones while Luffy is attacking him.
"Equalized Stats", if Luffy's weak then Naruto's weak
Aside from the fact that Kurama can increase its durability, yeah.
 
I mean, i know HxH isn't here, but Buso: Koka (the black armament) is like Ten (so it's the verse energy manifested as a solid thing), i don't think it's fair to equalize a single application of the same energy but not the others.
The other parts cannot really be equalized.
 
I mean, i know HxH isn't here, but Buso: Koka (the black armament) is like Ten (so it's the verse energy manifested as a solid thing), i don't think it's fair to equalize a single application of the same energy but not the others.
no I know, im giving an example, it's easier to Illustrate it with Busos.
it's just that it's not like the other elements can be negged by Asta in a conventional way.
 
”Luffy is weak” lol
  • (stats equal)
  • Luffy currently damaging someone an entire tier ahead of him.
  • Luffy being able to get stronger WHILE fighting.
And nothing stops Naruto from spamming clones using dura neg attacks.
 
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