I thought we have a two type of people who had understand it two different way.
Incorrect. Every order affects all of reality. Order from deeper layers just affects the Silver Sea more than order from a shallow layer.
You are the one who's incorrect. If, let's say, a God of Birth for example-- if they were from a deep world and they were disturbed or destroyed, and that lead to new life being unable to be born, that wouldn't affect the rest of the Silver Sea whatsoever. Only in that world in particular would new life be unable to be born. New life could still be born in the rest of the Silver Sea.
Yeah, you're proving I'm correct here... The Gods only control order, they aren't the order themselves (Excluding Guardian Gods). What happens with a God's destruction is completely irrelevant in this thread.
The Gods are directly linked to their Order. That's why when that God is removed from the world, so is that Order. And even when Order from one world is removed, it just affects that world, not the entire Silver Sea.
This proves that he can disturb the order of the worlds and that each order is separate from the other worlds or are different, And he can still affect the order of the deep worlds. But not in general scale
When a God is destroyed, their order isn't destroyed. This is proved when the God of Creation was destroyed yet her order wasn't. If you read the blog, you'd also know that disturbing order only takes that order out of the natural cycle of the universe.
??? I know that disturbing order only takes it out of its natural cycle within the universe. I apologize if I worded something in a way that would make you assume that I didn't.
I'm not entirely sure about what classifies a concept as type 2, but the reasons for type 2 isn't because it's a multiverse.
Just as a shallow order being destroyed has no effect on a deeper order, a deeper order being destroyed has no effect on a shallow order. There is actually proof of this. The Silver Water World Listeria was approaching the Abyss of the Silver Sea, meaning that it was one of the deepest worlds at the time. And it was destroyed. So all the Orders of that world were destroyed with it. Yet the Orders in worlds below it were perfectly fine.
I get what you're saying, but there is actually no proof that the order was destroyed together with the world.
Well that's a little aggressive, don't ya think?
At least explain why and how
Understandable have a great sleep
if the deeper concept is destroyed, does the shalow
No. They're unrelated.
Theoretically, it's possible. The "shallow concept" and the "deeper concept" are both the same concept. The shallow concept could be considered as the "base type 3 concept", while the deeper concept has an uncountably greater affect on reality. Destroying the shallow concept would have no affect on the deeper concept, since the shallow concept is uncountably lesser than the deeper concept.
No, if you destroy the concept on Layer 2, it simply wouldn't destroy the same concept on Layer 1. There is nothing theoretical about it.
It's called a theory for a reason...
Nousgalia himself said that if he, the God that begets Order were to perish, there would be no Order left in the world(https://tempusinfinitumblog.com/2020/11/15/113-gods-lesson/). Meaning that if a God is destroyed, so is their Order AKA concept. Now, on to my main point: Gods normally reside in the world that they originate from. That is confirmed. Whatever happens to a God happens to their Order (in most cases-- for example, if the Order of a God is transferred to a different person, like when Nousgalia's Order was transferred to Eldemade, then whatever happened to Nousgalia was irrelevant to his Order). That is also confirmed. With that cleared out of the way, its safe to say that if an entire world is destroyed, all of if not at least most of the Gods residing in that world would also be destroyed. Since its confirmed that Gods are directly linked to their Orders, those Orders would perish along with their Gods. And the Silver Water World Listeria which resided in an extremely deep layer was destroyed. Do you see where I'm going with this?
That's almost completely false tho... Gods only control order.
Dude, you clearly don't know how concepts type 2 works. What's people said above are already enough to disprove the concepts manip type 2.
Sasha literally says in this chapter(https://ncode.syosetu.com/n1578dx/479/) that the Order would not only disappear but collapse as well if Eques was destroyed. So yes, back to my earlier Nousgalia example, its not just that all Orders within the world would disappear from and be unable to be maintained in that world if he were to die, it would perish along with him.
Possibly, but that has nothing to do with how Order from deeper layers affect Order from more shallow layers.
Since "DAL" Got upgraded for a reason, also considering the order bertween world bring each value together
