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It's because it's several times larger than you would naturally think it is, thanks to perspective tricks. It's the same principle that Murata used in this panel, to make it look like Bang and Bomb are not that far away from the hole, when it's actually a few blocks away. Bang and Bomb are on high ground and the shot is angled so that we don't realize this at first.

In the first shot of the devastation with Iaian, it looks like the crater is only a block wide because the near side (where Iaian and AS are standing) is in the foreground and the far side appears a good ways back, creating the illusion that we can actually see the far-side directly across from Iaian and AS. But we can't, and the crater is a decent portion the size of the kilometers wide hole on the right. Using this perspective, you get a width of 1200 meters~

In the shot of the devastation with Homeless, it looks like Homeless Emperor is standing right in front of the crater because the POV is angled below him and the rubble in front of him looks much shorter than it actually is. On the right hand side, we see a shattered building near homeless, a two story chunk further up the slope and then a three story chunk near the top. Scaling here you get a width/depth of 150 to 300 meters depending on which building you scale to.

So if you scale to the landscape, it's several 100 to 1.2km wide and many kilometers long. With vaporization, that gives crazy results. After all vaping a decently sized building is town level energy.
 
It's because it's several times larger than you would naturally think it is, thanks to perspective tricks. It's the same principle that Murata used in this panel, to make it look like Bang and Bomb are not that far away from the hole, when it's actually a few blocks away. Bang and Bomb are on high ground and the shot is angled so that we don't realize this at first.

In the first shot of the devastation with Iaian, it looks like the crater is only a block wide because the near side (where Iaian and AS are standing) is in the foreground and the far side appears a good ways back, creating the illusion that we can actually see the far-side directly across from Iaian and AS. But we can't, and the crater is a decent portion the size of the kilometers wide hole on the right. Using this perspective, you get a width of 1200 meters~

In the shot of the devastation with Homeless, it looks like Homeless Emperor is standing right in front of the crater because the POV is angled below him and the rubble in front of him looks much shorter than it actually is. On the right hand side, we see a shattered building near homeless, a two story chunk further up the slope and then a three story chunk near the top. Scaling here you get a width/depth of 150 to 300 meters depending on which building you scale to.

So if you scale to the landscape, it's several 100 to 1.2km wide and many kilometers long. With vaporization, that gives crazy results. After all vaping a decently sized building is town level energy.
damn, after taking a closer look it is way bigger than I thought, I guess getting hyped for a chapter and reading through it pretty quickly does that huh, mb.
 
damn, after taking a closer look it is way bigger than I thought, I guess getting hyped for a chapter and reading through it pretty quickly does that huh, mb.
I literally had the same thought when I started scaling it. It's only like 30 feet wide in the panel where everybody is dodging it (which is probably where we all started approximating the length), but in subsequent shots the full devastation is quite large compared to various buildings and the hole. Scaling to the building on the upper left on Iaian's side, I got a width of 224m so it seems to be in that several hundred meter range for the most part
 
If we use vaporization for HE, then we should use vaporization for Vaccine Man too, because their blasts are stated to be the same.

Vaccine Man's end with Vap was around 700 Gigatons.
 
Lol, now I'm discussing the width with Damage in KingofLife's calc (which I both support and prefer). Pixel scaling the image where the s-class and Iaian dodge, it's about 16-17 meters wide which is the smallest you can find it. It ranges from 100-300 meters otherwise, with the exception of scaling to the MA hole
 
I don't think anyone scales to HE except oroch and Boris, and I'm extremely iffy on scaling anyone to high 7-A
 
I won't lie, I have been worried we would get some great feats from the cadres on the surface (7-A, 6-C, etc) and then people would treat them as outliers because their fights below the ground were far less impressive in comparison.

I am glad that Homeless made it clear why the underground feats were less impressive though, a stray 7-B attack down in the MA could destroy half the base and mess-up the whole dynamic of the arc- so the best feats you can get are 7-B shaking the base maybe and 7-C blasts from the likes of Rover, etc.

Speaking of which, didn't we get 7-B dura results for Rover for taking Saitama's punch? I will check that
 
I won't lie, I have been worried we would get some great feats from the cadres on the surface (7-A, 6-C, etc) and then people would treat them as outliers because their fights below the ground were far less impressive in comparison.
I mean, the only real feat is from EH, who just fought the Zombieman (Weak character sincerely). So he is just showing the real power now
 
I mean, the only real feat is from EH, who just fought the Zombieman (Weak character sincerely). So he is just showing the real power now
Exactly, but people might have not understood that if we didn't get the exposition. Realistically, HE couldn't have done any vaccine level (7-B) explosions down in the MA without destroying much of the base. If he did do that it would A) destroy the shape of the monster association so the base lift couldn't happen B) create a giant open cavernous space where various characters potentially could see each other and the 1v1 aspect of the underground fight might be ruined.

But I've been expecting crazy feats like this from most, if not all of the cadres and a couple of heroes. If we get a bunch like this, I hope they will not be seen as outliers. HE is the first one to do this but I am sure others will follow. Like GS, or ENW maybe (they're not far from the ocean).
 
You're right, I did only get High 7-C. Just took me 20 minutes to find that conversation in this labyrinth of a thread
 
I asked him in the thread for further comments, so we'll see. I probably should add a vaporization end, not sure what else I should add.
 
What were all the methods for heat or scorching?

I remember melting or vaporisation, but I do recall other methods.

At the very least, I think a heat based method is the best way to go. As much as melting is debatable
 
Melting and vaporization are the only two heat-based methods that would work on rock that I know of, there may be others that I do not know
 
Idk if I said this before, but in the scenario that there isn’t a better heat-based method, melting would be the best option.
 
Melting and vaporization are the only two heat-based methods that would work on rock that I know of, there may be others that I do not know
It would be higher than 700 petatons at least considering they have to vaporize water right?
 
Can u imagine if we used the anime shit and decided to calc melting the planet lmao

The anime very clearly portrays melting much more than the manga does
 
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