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Its not exaggeration, informational particles are stated to be even smaller than spiritual one, which show that they aren't the same thing, and everything on the verse is made by informational particles
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TSSDK Regeneration Upgrade (WN & LN)
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Well, maybe you are correct, and maybe not. Regenerating from any form of particles, no matter how small, does not seem like High-Godly regeneration to me though.
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What do you think about this?
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What do you think about this?
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If they have physical (or even non-physical, at that) particles remaining then yeah, in no way is this High-Godly. That would, under basic scrutiny, prevent it from even being any godly.
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Melt Slash and Disintegration erase everything from it without letting any trace remaining
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So, according to u, LN imply more of a low godly regen, but u agree with the High-Godly from what is in the OP that also uses LN scans?
and yes, LN and WN describes it almost on the same way, basically
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Something I remember reading about elemental demons or something implied.
But like I said, I'm not knowledgeable on the verse anyway, and what the OP posted seems fine to me.
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I'm personally a bit skeptical of treating this as High-Godly, since the information isn't treated as more fundamental than the body and soul, more so being coterminous with the latter. This seems more like Mid-Godly to me. Of course, I'm not an expert on the higher levels of regeneration and definitely not the verse so I could be wrong here.
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Like the entire existence in the verse, Information is the reason that makes their existances, even abstract things, concepts, skills, matter and souls are made by it
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Okay, what is this and why was i pinged into here.
As a unknowledgeable about Tensura, can you correct me if i got some details wrong?
So, basically in Tensura, everything in reality is made up of Information right? Souls, (And minds because those are the same in Tensura?), Matter and concepts are made up of Information right?
So the skill you have described in the OP erases body and soul of its victim right? But does it erase its targets information too? Because from what i have read, Rimuru is regenerating himself back from his Information right? If thats the case then thats definitly not High Godly. It would be High Godly if the Information portion gets erased. In comparison, regeneratig your Mind, Body and Soul from your underlying concept is Mid Godly too.
High Godly is regenerating from a fundamental nonexistence, its granted to characters that can will themselve back to existance even if logically nothing remains of them as outlined on the regeneration page. That would be the case for Tensura characters if their information portion gets erased too, and i mean it in its completness.
At the moment, i would argue that this is pretty powerful Mid godly with a Immortality Type 8 based on their information portion.
As a unknowledgeable about Tensura, can you correct me if i got some details wrong?
So, basically in Tensura, everything in reality is made up of Information right? Souls, (And minds because those are the same in Tensura?), Matter and concepts are made up of Information right?
So the skill you have described in the OP erases body and soul of its victim right? But does it erase its targets information too? Because from what i have read, Rimuru is regenerating himself back from his Information right? If thats the case then thats definitly not High Godly. It would be High Godly if the Information portion gets erased. In comparison, regeneratig your Mind, Body and Soul from your underlying concept is Mid Godly too.
High Godly is regenerating from a fundamental nonexistence, its granted to characters that can will themselve back to existance even if logically nothing remains of them as outlined on the regeneration page. That would be the case for Tensura characters if their information portion gets erased too, and i mean it in its completness.
At the moment, i would argue that this is pretty powerful Mid godly with a Immortality Type 8 based on their information portion.
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How is Rimuru are coming back from information if Melt Slash and Disintegration literally erase it?
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"Rimuru can regenerate from Melt Slash, a sword art fused with Disintegration - a sword art fused with Disintegration, an attack that targets the cells, and souls of its target, erasing then completely."
The OP.
Im working with what im provided. As i said in the very text you have quoted, it would be High Godly if Rimuru regenerated despite his Information getting completly erased. The OP seemingly contradicts that notion.
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Souls are made by informations on the verse, like everything
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There's this, @First_WitchMelt Slash and Disintegration erase everything from it without letting any trace remaining
Since everything is made up of Information, then technically speaking, wouldn't regenerating from the mind, or hell, from a cell count as High-Godly regeneration? They are technically erasing you on a conceptual level.
I honestly don't know how to feel about that, it seems really weird.
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This. I feel like that's the main issue with this honestly.
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Well, not really, as stated in the op, even Skills are made by informations, and Hinata can destroy Rimuru skills
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Because i don't think that it is a issue, not when hinata can destroy skills that are made by informations as well, which is another proof to her being able to erase things on informational lvl, but the fact that everything on the verse is made by information can be a proof of everyone who can regen from their soul destruction have High-Godly
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So... Their Soul is NOT erased then? Regardless, that notion is massivly wrong as i have explained above. If something remains to regenerate from than that is regeneration from a fundamental source, I.e Mid Godly regeneration.
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from their soul destruction* sorry, nothing remains from it, everything is erased without letting a trace, so, their fundamental source is destroyed, but they can regen
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Again, High Godly is regenerating from a fundamental erasur of ones existance and would require Rimuru to regenerate despite his entirety of Information being erased. The fact that specifily only body and soul were erased points me to Rimuru not being completly erased.
Leaving no traces is an extremly vague statement and could mean a multitude of things, like she erased both things in its entirety, so no specks of both of them remained.
Really, all im asking is a scan of rimuru regenerating despite total lack of Information and that gobble of liquid and his isekai friends can have their regeneration.
All i got is a statement from the OP that specificly contradicts the Requirement for High Godly along feats that dance around it.
Leaving no traces is an extremly vague statement and could mean a multitude of things, like she erased both things in its entirety, so no specks of both of them remained.
Really, all im asking is a scan of rimuru regenerating despite total lack of Information and that gobble of liquid and his isekai friends can have their regeneration.
All i got is a statement from the OP that specificly contradicts the Requirement for High Godly along feats that dance around it.
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Dude, their souls are made by informations, like everything on the verse, Hinata can even erase skills that literally are stated to be informations, which is another proof to it, why leaving no traces is vague here?
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Why focus only on souls though? If everything is made up of information, then isn't any type of regenerating from any type of erasure count as high-godly? If I got my hand erased, and I regenerated it, wouldn't that count as high-godly since I'm regenerating from conceptual destruction?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something here, but if this gets accepted, then wouldn't every character that can regenerate anything in TSSDK have High-Godly?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something here, but if this gets accepted, then wouldn't every character that can regenerate anything in TSSDK have High-Godly?
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We might need to tighten our explanations for our standards, yes, but in any case, I agree with First Witch and Planck69. High-Godly is not going to be accepted and this thread is just wasting our time at this point. Just make it Mid-Godly so we can close this.
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Yes, the ones who can't regen from their information destruction on the verse indeed should have it, my points was just against the ones who said that Rimuru regeneration was Mid-Godly at best.
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Okay, let me get this straight. Only Body and Soul were erased right? So ONLY parts of Rimurus existance were erased yeah? Let me give you an example as why this is a problem. If i erased your body but let your head intact, would that qualify for Low Godly regeneration? No, because that does not fulfil the requirement of regenerating your entire physical body from a spiritual source.
What you are doing is assuming Rimuru can regenerate despite lacking the most important thing here: Feats. Rimuru has not regenerated from that level of erasur in his entirety, he was not purged down together with his entire body of information. To flip this point for clarity, if a erasur that exactly erases 99% of Rimurus existance together with his Information body, that would still not be High Godly, because 1% of his existance remained from that he can regenerate from. This is why i need a concrete statement of Rimuru being capeable of regenerating despite a lack of Information. Anything else is a higher level of Midgodly.
And the reason why leaving no traces is vague is because it can multiple things. If i erase a rock that leaves no traces, does it mean i have automaticly erased the rock on a conceptual level? Of course not, because you can infer anything from that sentence. Maybe i have erased the rock down to its concept, maybe my erasur leaves smaller particles around and i was really throurough this time, maybe i have erased the rock through time and space. We are not supposed to do the mental gynmastic for the author, either there was a statement from which you can infer a prober and most likely interpretation or you dont.
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My man, their body and soul are made by informations, and I already showed another proof to it, like even Skills being Informations and Hinata being able to erase Skills, u can read it on her profile if u want
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Everything is made up of information.
If you regenerate even the erasure of your finger, you are gonna have high-godly regeneration due to the fact its conceptual destruction.
I hope you realize how wrong that sounds.
If you regenerate even the erasure of your finger, you are gonna have high-godly regeneration due to the fact its conceptual destruction.
I hope you realize how wrong that sounds.
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Everybody in IRL would have high regen to low godly since if I cut my finger, I'm also cutting the molecules
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