Was extremely sick, now a bit better so replying back, remind me if I miss anything
Information Particle has indeed become Immeasurable but it won't always be like that because the narrative itself says it like that.
The narrative mentions that he Information particle can transmit Information to all points in time, the word "Can" only means that he is capable and does not always happen.
If you omit the word "can" it means that the Information Particle always travels to any point in time when transmitting Information. Again the way to get Reaction and Combat speed is not like that, even if you don't agree with me the others will not agree with you and it indicates that what you give is wrong.
You do know that not every immeasurable speed character is always going at immeasurable speed right?
Otherwise if Character A is immeasurable speed, and character B is unknown, and they go on for a causal walk in the park, than by your logic, we'll have to scale character B to immeasurable speed too
If you really want to play the word game, than here : [source : speed page]
Infinite Speed (Able to travel any finite distance in zero time, or move an infinite distance within a finite amount of time. Teleportation does not count. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below)
Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below)
Immeasurable speed characters are far beyond even those Infinite speed characters listed above. They perceive infinite speed characters as completely frozen, and they can travel forward and backward in time at will. They have the speed necessary to hop from the beginning of time, to the end of time, and anywhere in between as casually as a human being can roll their eyes left or right. This also means their reaction time is faster than instantaneous. They can dodge an attack that already has been struck, and they can strike someone even before they launched an attack. And they can do all of this via sheer speed.
So no, we don't have anything requiring them to ALWAYS move at such speed.
Similarly, we already know the reason why information particle can move in Suspended World in the first place is due to their sheer speed, thus using the analogy "they may not always be moving at that speed in the suspended world" would be false, because if they were indeed moving slower, they wouldn't even move in the Suspended World
Yeah still not enough, like i say it getting strict now day
I literally search that for 1 hours, and i dont found any thread that accepted that blog
No it is not general duality, you even brought Yin and Yang, but there are no in your scan that stated about Yin and Yang
Seems I found some relevant thing to that, at least, in that these "connections", such as Sin-Angelic skills,
are compared to Ying and Yang relations.
Yes, I know that only a few people (maybe no one will read it completely) who really care about the verse will read this, but no matter what, I cannot allow this thread to end with the comments of people who do not have enough knowledge about the verse itself or the wiki standards. So let's talk a little bit about the proposals before the staff/s comment further here.
Thank you for the detailed evaluation
The immeasurable speed of combat and reaction of the Digital Lifeforms now looks good to me because when the full context of the scans is examined, we see that explanations of the nature of the information particles are used entirely to explain the actions of Digital Lifeforms like Guy and Chloe as they fight each other.
According to the quote, when the Digital Lifeforms Chloe and Guy are fighting each other, they are both aiming/attacking at a point where their swords have already hit each other. This suggests that Chloe's sword is attacking Guy's future at a point where Chloe has already hit Guy, and that Guy is doing the same against Chloe, but both are responding to each other's attacks on their futures due to their immeasurable speed and this is clearly support evidence for Digital Lifeforms immeasurable combat and reaction speed.
I see, I didn't read the full volume so some statements got skipped. I didn't realize there was such a statement, but thanks for pointing it out.
As a result, we have no reason to put any magic user on the same level as Yuuki.
alright
It has already been clarified here that Unlimited Imprisonment is an metaphysical area rather than a real one.
I see, though, would it be helpful with the statement that Unlimited imprisonment
traps the target in an infinite number of imaginary spaces?
since the target is sealed within an infinite amount of such spaces, it would normally take infinite time if the processing power of the user is finite, in order to unlock/decipher unlimited imprisonment, yet if they can do it in finite time, it would mean they have an infinite processing power to be able to handle infinite information in a finite time.
No, although God can direct causality at his own will, bind lower beings to the laws governing causality, and although himself is outside of creation (contains all these laws), essentially the relationship between God himself and causality has never been explained to a level that meets our requirements.
Well it has implied that he was changeless by the fact that "He threw away his omnipotence and omniscience to experience genuine change", wouldn't that mean his self when he was omnipotent, would be changeless? [and we already differentiate between 'god' and 'veldanava']
I've talked enough about this already so I'll keep it basic, not every equivalent opposition is a duality at all, dualities are conceptual in nature and govern existing in reality so the only duality that I think meets the standards of duality is the duality of the Great Spirit of Light and Darkness and by current wiki standards God cannot qualify for Transduality without having a qualitative superiority over dualities. So I don't support anything beyond Nonduality Type 1 for God.
No, they are not always conceptual, the definition page itself clarifies it :
Nonduality and Transduality are states of being wherein an entity exists independently of, or qualitatively beyond, various dual systems, ranging from specific, limited sets of dual distinctions to duality itself on a conceptual level
Conceptual Dualities are different from limited sets of dualities[that do not
have to be conceptual].
Also, just because magic interferes with the laws of the world does not mean that magic can interfere with everything governed by the laws of the world; skills, unique skills, and ultimate skills all, manipulate the related parts of the laws of the world. For example, although law of worlds govern fate, we have certain characters such as Shion, Masayuki, and Veldanava who have Fate Manipulation skills.
Elemental Magic you beginning claimed to have Acausality Type 4 has no relation to Acausality Type 4. The principle of Elemental Magic, which works differently from the laws of nature in the context, is due to Elemental Magic's law manipulation and physics manipulation, which ignores, and operates on the physical laws, physical causality, and is not affected by laws that already exist in the universe.
Also, regarding Acausality Type 4, it is not just being independent of physical cause and effect (we call these physical factors), it is being independent of all kinds of cause and effect relationships, unless you are independent from temporal cause-effect relationships, you will still be affected by the conventional fate manipulation, precognition and causality manipulation,
being independent of all kinds of cause and effect relations would be Type 5, not type 4. Type 4 is just working on an irregular causal system
Also,
Elemental Magic isn't corelated to the Laws of Physics, because you can't apply Physical Phenomenon into Magic and expect it to work,
due to which elemental magic cannot be used in Holy Field whereas Spirit Magic, which follows the laws of physics and physical phenomenon, can.
which Acausality Type 4 is immune to by default.
*Resistant
https://imgur.com/Xy89Ut9
I have no idea where this layer nonsense is coming from, so I'll just say this.
I gave a few more examples on the layered hax thread
Baseline Resistance :
Skills are inscribed within one's Soul and resist any outside interference interference to seize, separate or erase[nullify] them.
This part is about the protection of skills by the soul, so this is already a unconventioanal resistance of the accepted skills in the profiles to any interference, it has nothing to do with resistance to soul manipulation.
Also, Rimuru's Merciless (soul hax) only works on characters begging for their own life, this showing that Merciless can't bypass baseline resistance. (Rimuru's soul absorption is already 1 layer)
So, I only see here are the soul being protected by unique abilities and withstanding interworld summoning time (baseline resistance), Mariabell's Unique Skill to bypass resistance (+1 layer), Ultimate Skill user resistance (1 layer resistance).
Pretty sure these are the same layers as in the original OP
The main thing here is that Disintegration erases the Soul and can work on Ultimate skill users, which have 1 layer resistance
Where are the layers for destruction coming from?
Soul destruction :
Conceptual manipulation[destruction] :
Magic in general is Conceptual manipulation[accepted], and Ultimate skill users have 4 layers of resistance to it[explained in magic and skills page], yet Disintegration can still effect Ultimate skill users
Information Destruction :
Baseline resistance : above A-rank adventures can resist a sealed Veldora's Aura, which can cause conceptual death to Ifrit. "Conceptual Death" was previously accepted as Core destruction as well, where core defines one's information self
1 Layer : Ultimate skill users should be far higher than A-rank adventurers, yet Disintegration can still completely erase their Soul including skills, skills are made of information
scans are in the OP already
Failing to see how this is Acausality. This isn't elemental magic working based on laws, principles of a different world. Sure it isn't affected by laws governing natural phenomena however, it still operates under the laws of that world which we can coin as "the laws of magic". This is clearly shown by the examples given. Yeah fire created using magic doesn't require oxygen to keep burning but it isn't as a result of being outside normal causality rather, it's fuel source is magicules instead of oxygen. Magic as a power in fiction is already something which doesn't adhere to natural phenomena in the first place.
Causality being a part of the worlds laws also doesn't matter in proving this as I have noted, multiple sets of laws can exist in a single reality such as laws of natural phenomena and laws of magic. The only way causality being part of laws also comes into play is if it's noted to affect it in particular or all laws simultaneously.
Even assuming the Acausality of elemental magic is legit, I fail to see any negation happening here, it's just power null, in the first place anti-magic by virtue of being magic will also be Acausal so there's no negation but simple interaction by virtue of having the same nature.
I see, in that case, I'll remove the Acausality part
I believe I already told you guys the reason on discord -_-
In any case,
Since 3 people from here and some people from discord asked me to remove the God part and let it be for another thread, I'll remove the parts related to it. That should be fine, right?
Also, don't expect me to reply asap because I still haven't fully recovered, and also busy with other things.
