STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[Tetsucabrah]

I don't think Genos had a good grasp on his peers' powers at that point.
Him thinking Saitama would need help with Gouketsu honestly invalidates any opinion regarding his power.

 

[Ourosboros]

I don't think Genos had a good grasp on his peers' powers at that point.
Him thinking Saitama would need help with Gouketsu honestly invalidates any opinion regarding his power.

I think Genos's testimony proves that Gouketsu's power was too much for him to quantify at the time, but beyond saying Gouketsu is leagues above Genos, it's hard to say.

 

[Kin201]

My bad. Darkshine didn't show up in Genos' vision, but he did witness Darkshine went all out against Kabuto and see Saitama one-shot it before, it is still worth something.

Genos only knew Darkshine's strength at that point. So he imagined that Flashy Flash, Atomic Samurai, Bang, etc.. were needed to beat Gouketsu is not reliable at all because he virtually knew nothing of their strength at the time.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Gouketsu only has statements saying it would take multiple S classers to take him down.
Elder Centipede has the statements and the feats to back it up. As does Rover.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Honestly if we interpret Genos's statements in a way that Darkshine HAS to be inferior to Gouketsu then we also have to take into account Genos has seen Saitama destroy a meteor and bring down the alien ship.
You see how ridiculous that sounds? Genos was flustered and confused. His statement means nothing other than he couldn't comprehend Gouketsu's strength at the time.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

My bad. Darkshine didn't show up in Genos' vision

no, but tatsumaki was there.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I love how jacked King is in that panel.

 

[ImposingTiger]

Honestly if we interpret Genos's statements in a way that Darkshine HAS to be inferior to Gouketsu then we also have to take into account Genos has seen Saitama destroy a meteor and bring down the alien ship.
You see how ridiculous that sounds? Genos was flustered and confused. His statement means nothing other than he couldn't comprehend Gouketsu's strength at the time.

That's a good point, I don't see Gouketsu being nearly the strength of the meteor, but at least in the spanish version it was implied that Genos was talking about the hypothetical inner power withing Gouketsu, which still says something.

 

[Kin201]

Hmm. Forgot about that. Do we need an explicit statement in order to scale EC to Gouketsu, or are the frequent comparisions (genos says something similar to Orochi here) enough?

I think we don't have any explicit statement that makes EC scale to Gouketsu. Orochi's statement can be interpreted otherwise, and Genos' one isn't really reliable either.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I heavily doubt gouketsu is anywhere near the power of the meteor

 

[RinneItachi]

Rover, Gouketsu, and EC are very likely the top 3 Cadre, in no particular order although I'm guessing EC is the strongest among them based on the claims that only the top 4 strongest S-Class heroes can beat him. I believe even Darkshine was excluded from the list, and he can defeat moderately high tier Dragon's at his full power. Gouketsu curbstomped low-mid tier S-Class level fighters with no difficulty and intimidated Bakuzan to the point of complete submission with a single punch to demonstrate his power. Narratively speaking, he's probably enough to challenge some of the higher level S-Class, although my personal headcanon is that he would lose to Darkshine and above opponents, let alone the ones mentioned about EC, god forbid King, the true god tier of the verse. Rover doesn't have much statements relating to the S-Class and stuff, iirc, but obviously was superior to Garou and probably would've defeated him overtime. The Saitama punch feat was a little vague, but impressive regardless as it didn't have any visible injures, just getting knocked out and immediately fleeing upon waking up.

Also, yeah, I feel like Garou's stamina should be listed differently. His willpower and reactive evolution can keep him going through almost anything, as long as the force he's up against isn't so overwhelming that victory is pretty much impossible for his current self.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The Saitama punch feat was a little vague, but impressive regardless as it didn't have any visible injures, just getting knocked out and immediately fleeing upon waking up.

Not really? Saitama kinda saw rover as just some dog

 

[Tetsucabrah]

How is it not impressive

 

[Tetsucabrah]

You can say it's not as impressive as taking an earnest punch like Boros did but to say it's not impressive at all? That's ******* cap.

 

[RinneItachi]

It shook and massively damaged the Monster Association base, while gaining the attention of everyone. Has it been calced yet? And I'm not saying it makes Rover scale to his usual punches, obviously Saitama held back, but considering how powerful the shockwave was, Rover somewhat tanking it is impressive.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

There was a 7-A calc for it but that was rejected iirc.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It shook and massively damaged the Monster Association base, while gaining the attention of everyone. Has it been calced yet? And I'm not saying it makes Rover scale to his usual punches, obviously Saitama held back, but considering how powerful the shockwave was, Rover somewhat tanking it is impressive.

I think someone did, and it yielded 7-C results.

You can say it's not as impressive as taking an earnest punch like Boros did but to say it's not impressive at all? That's ******* cap.

Well, the boros thing is kinda meaningless to an extent tbh

 

[RinneItachi]

Should prob get calced again then. It's mentioned on his profile but no calc for it. Unless there's some weird physics bullshit that stops us from getting something reliable, I don't see why it shouldn't be given another shot, especially if it went all the way up to 7-A before.

 

[RinneItachi]

It's not meaningless. While it's not as impressive as Rover tanking the attacks from Bang and Bomb, it's a decent durability feat worth noting.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I remember asking for the feat to be calced, only for someone to say that it'll only yield low end tier 7 stuff. Might as well go for it to see if it gets something interesting.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It's not meaningless. While it's not as impressive as Rover tanking the attacks from Bang and Bomb, it's a decent durability feat worth noting.

I didn't mean the earthquake thing, that is impressive, I meant him surviving a hit from saitama.

 

[RinneItachi]

I'm not counting Saitama's involvement as relevant, just the feat itself. Saitama stating he held back alone is enough to disregard scaling Rover to Saitama's regular casual punches. If we did anyways, Rover would easily be Above Dragon, which is blatantly not true.

 

[RinneItachi]

Oh yeah, another thing worth noting for EC is that Saitama specifically chose to use a Serious Punch on him, rather than a casual punch. It's easily arguable that he just wanted to be sure he completely obliterated the thing, possibly for King's own safety, but if he actually felt as though it was necessary to kill EC with a Serious Punch, that might be something very impressive. Probably can't be used though as it's somewhat theoretical.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It's easily arguable that he just wanted to be sure he completely obliterated the thing, possibly for King's own safety

This one sounds pretty likely, as King was the guy he was closest to and likely his only true friend. Tho, I've always intepreted it as Saitama just needing something to take his frustration out on. So basically, it was:

Him wasting his time on a tournament and not saving people + losing to King + King in danger.

 

[RinneItachi]

Oh yeah, I think Saitama even said that it felt good to take his anger out on EC, or that it was the main reason he went there.

 

[RinneItachi]

Lol imagine if Saitama was having a bad day when Boros invaded and just killed him at the start with a Serious Punch.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

That would have been depressing

 

[RinneItachi]

Blast is Saitama's long lost brother and neither remember the other despite both being related. This was confirmed by the 4,000th pixel on Blast's first appearance, which you can see when you zoom in massively.

 

[RinneItachi]

Also I found someone who said that Roswaal from Re:Zero is equal in power to Tatsumaki but that she can kill him with durability negation.

 

[SemiRaedi]

stomp or no? Lapis vs Tatsu

 

[SemiRaedi]

Also I found someone who said that Roswaal from Re:Zero is equal in power to Tatsumaki but that she can kill him with durability negation.

the guy is low 7-B with high 8-C physicals and Tatsu is atleast high 6-A................

 

[RinneItachi]

On top of that, he's actually up to date on the manga and knows about Blast in the new chapter. Really confused me. Then again he also thought that destruction over time applied to judging attack potency, claiming that Puck in his true form is at least continent level because he would destroy the world overtime. So definitely not someone who does much debating. Can't blame him too much.

 

[Phoenks]

Also I found someone who said that Roswaal from Re:Zero is equal in power to Tatsumaki but that she can kill him with durability negation.

lmao...

To be fair Re:Zero is not one of those verses that shoves feats in your face, so it's impossible to know Roswaal's true strength... But even still, I'm pretty sure he ain't a multi-continent buster lmao (That would literally be destroying the entirety of the Re:Zero world).

 

[SemiRaedi]

how does a misaka mikoto vs Fubuki sound?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

You know, I wonder what is Tatsu, Fubuki and Psykos physical AP and Durability

We have Kid Tats surviving a 9-B attack, right ? Anything else ?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

She got knocked down by a metal door. But no one has called that and there's some saying that a 10-B human could survive that. There was that one time child emperor said that fubuki battle power was low with his make, but his mask is quite innacurate so I wouldn't trust it. Some could argue they should be 9-A via being above a regular cop, but eh

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Neat.

 

[Ourosboros]

Apparently there are a few people out there who want OPM to end with this arc. I don't understand that- are they that worried the series will go in a direction they don't like or what?

 

[Phoenks]

What...?

I don't really understand either, did they just come out and say they want it to end this arc, or did they give any reasoning behind it?

I personally think there are so many interesting things that could come out of the next few arcs, I can't wait to see Murata's take on it all...

 

[Ourosboros]

What...?

I don't really understand either, did they just come out and say they want it to end this arc, or did they give any reasoning behind it?

I personally think there are so many interesting things that could come out of the next few arcs, I can't wait to see Murata's take on it all...

Here's the post I was thinking about (reddit ofc):

"1). This 6 months time frame is like the "Frieza 5 minutes" from dragonball z that lasted 10 episodes....It doesnt matter and could go on Forever to end the series.

2). The longer the series goes on the less special it is. Look i get you guys want this thing to go on till your teeth fall out and you forget your damn name but guess what...there was a time that Pokemon was special...now 25 years later and the thing is like a rash...you cant get rid of it. If OPM is around in 30 years you might still like it but the vast majority will hate it.

3) the series is become the thing it used to make fun of....sorry it is. and the longer it goes on the more the cracks will show.

4). Berserk, Hunter x Hunter, vagabound, Pokemon, and One Piece.....all series that need to end of risk becoming an incomplete mess instead of Masterpieces or popular. OPM going on for 30 years will also fall into that category if as some say "i never want it to end!!!"