• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

New profile posts

Hi, if you have time could you please give this thread a look?
It's just 2 things that are technically already accepted somewhere in the profile but they still need approval just to be safe.
is it allowed to add extra evidence to already accepted abilities for a profile?
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
Show me the specifics of what you want to do.
ShionAH
ShionAH
Okay so Rick has
I want to add
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
I always hesitate in adding these sorts of things. If you think about it, it really is very dicey stuff. Adding justification without vetting can serve to substantially reduce the reliability of our pages- for example, if there's a thread aiming to add Information Manipulation on a technicality based on one (1) scan that people consider to be very far fetched, but it ultimately gets through, it shouldn't be the case that progressively less and less reliable sources of "evidence" are added on!

Now then. I say all of that to paint why it is always not preferred to tamper with profiles in this manner. In your specific case, they seem fine. The latter one is more like Time Manip that results in killing off people because they aren't acausal, but idrc about adding it. You shouldn't get in trouble for it- the only situation where one may get in trouble is if a particularly astute edit patroller notices that what you've inserted into the profile is obviously stupid and silly, and then it becomes a cascading issue.
Hey Damage, if Infinite Sized DBS Universe does get accepted will you be willing to handle all the immediate scaling problems that result from that?
Huesito88
Huesito88
But you won't do it then who will Damage? The supporters won't handle the speed scaling stuff and that'd look weird with the infinite size Universe being accepted.
Damage3245
Damage3245
I don't believe that the characters have Infinite speed. How would I handle the scaling for that?
Huesito88
Huesito88
No I'm just saying if infinite sized universe is accepted, it seems like the supporters won't do the scaling for it. Therefore it would look weird seeing God Goku is MFTL+ which is still using the finite universe for the speed calculations.
Moving here to not derail
The thing is already accepted, so you'd need to make a thread for it.

Plus Frisk being at least the speed that's above Tsunderplane during Sans' fight should be a given as they were filled with DT there obviously, and that many times showcased to increase speed, meaning that Frisk being somehow slower than how they were during Undying would be dumb.
Thinking about it a smidge more, I'm more fine with it thinking of the route like "The calc has them with four sea teas dodging at Mach 8.74, and we're just upscaling that since Sans/Flowey blitz late-game Frisk". That sort of ~15% jump is around the upper edge of what I'd accept, but isn't anything to get upset about really.
Agnaa
Agnaa
I believe DB gets to use its speed amps consistently since they're stated. They're a surprisingly uncommon case in that regard.

and yes, I did once try to downgrade that until evidence of them being stated was provided
StrymULTRA
StrymULTRA
Honestly, as the Sea Tea always increased x2 here, we can't assume it arbitrairly makes stuff go lower sometimes for the sake of getting low end, even if you look foolish at it.

It's a game multiplier after all.
StrymULTRA
StrymULTRA
Nvm I got what you're meaning here.

Meh, don't wanna fight about it, not in the mood.
  • Like
Reactions: Agnaa
Hello, could you take input here or ping other staffs? Thanks, have a nice day.

Hello, could you take input here or ping other staffs? Thanks, have a nice day.

Can you check out this DC thread?
Hi, hope you're doing well!

If you wouldn't mind checking this thread out, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Mind checking this out ?
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
Do you know any knowledgeable member to ask about it ?


Here is the summary(read the thread for scans):

1)In this verese all forms of supernatural energy including the soul are fondamental particles, these particles are made from a smaller particle through a convertion method. This particle is called Element(Conception), it's ideas, legends, myth, rumors... produced from people soul.

2)Soul information include their knowledge, race, the energy they use, and their concept in some cases(gods and apparition). These information could be gained by imprinting them on someone soul.
EX:
1)Imprinting "dragon factor" on a monster soul will cause him to transform into a dragon. 2)Possession will result either the vessel will change the soul or the soul will change the vessel. And once two soul fuse even a user of information magic(1 and 2) couldn't separate them.

3)Soul fragments are pieces of the soul that hold their knowledge and power, losing them is permenant(except for gods and apparitions) and cannot be regenerated with soul and time manipulation.

4)Gods and apparition have conception which is associate with the thing they govern, this is because their power comes from conception and we know it govern the object it's related to. Their body and soul are from other energies.
EX:
1)Spirit of wind has the conception of wind and authority over it. other creatures could sense this conception if they're related to it.
2)Dragon is an apparition that has authority over dragons and snake due to him being the first, his ability work on all dragons even abstract like dragon gods. This is thanks to them having "dragon factor", which could mean its something similar to the concept of dragon inside someone.

5)Mana(fundamental particle) is an energy that exist in nature and beings(produced from the planet and souls) and it's unique to each person. This energy cause animal to mutate into monsters and affect their intelligence and give them special abilities. Mana crystal are crystalized mana that form inside monsters body, these crystals hold genetic information and could be used to transform into that monster or use its abilities.
EL_xWatcher1234x
Hi, could you give your opinion on this?
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
Bump


Here is the summary(read the thread for scans):

1)In this verese all forms of supernatural energy including the soul are fondamental particles, these particles are made from a smaller particle through a convertion method. This particle is called Element(Conception), it's ideas, legends, myth, rumors... produced from people soul.

2)Soul information include their knowledge, race, the energy they use, and their concept in some cases(gods and apparition). These information could be gained by imprinting them on someone soul.
EX:
1)Imprinting "dragon factor" on a monster soul will cause him to transform into a dragon. 2)Possession will result either the vessel will change the soul or the soul will change the vessel. And once two soul fuse even a user of information magic(1 and 2) couldn't separate them.

3)Soul fragments are pieces of the soul that hold their knowledge and power, losing them is permenant(except for gods and apparitions) and cannot be regenerated with soul and time manipulation.

4)Gods and apparition have conception which is associate with the thing they govern, this is because their power comes from conception and we know it govern the object it's related to. Their body and soul are from other energies.
EX:
1)Spirit of wind has the conception of wind and authority over it. other creatures could sense this conception if they're related to it.
2)Dragon is an apparition that has authority over dragons and snake due to him being the first, his ability work on all dragons even abstract like dragon gods. This is thanks to them having "dragon factor", which could mean its something similar to the concept of dragon inside someone.

5)Mana(fundamental particle) is an energy that exist in nature and beings(produced from the planet and souls) and it's unique to each person. This energy cause animal to mutate into monsters and affect their intelligence and give them special abilities. Mana crystal are crystalized mana that form inside monsters body, these crystals hold genetic information and could be used to transform into that monster or use its abilities.
EL_xWatcher1234x
Hi!

I am sorry to hear that you are ill (am currently sick myself so I know how it feels), but whenever you get the chance, would you mind checking this thread out:


No rush, though, and I hope you feel better soon!
Hey bro.
Do u mind giving your input here?

The op has been edited. Dalsean and I agreed that for the snyderverse key, the motherbox’ ap should be the standardized calc for vapourising the earth and not just surface wiping.
Hi. Could you please check out this CRT?

Hi Nehz, if you have the time could you please look over this CRT?

Hi, would you mind evaluating one 1-A thread? Ultima already agreed to 1-A rating so i was looking for 2 more approvals from admins

Thread:

I am going to make a thread in a few days about all the abilities that the Undertale characters like Undyne, Mettaton, Asgore, etc... need.
So if there is something you want me to put on the thread you can tell me. I will start making a sandbox soon
StrymULTRA
StrymULTRA
FYI I won't make any CRT regarding it, I gave ya the info to guide you at doing it instead. The only reason why I broke my hiatus is the MHS downgrade, but after that I'll be gone.

Just know that 8-B won't be acceptable given that the gap is too large.
Monsters_fight
Monsters_fight
Got it. I will add the High 8-C+ downgrade in my CRT
Monsters_fight
Monsters_fight
Some Undertale characters also need an Intelligence update, like Undyne and Mettaton. Also, some minor fixes need to be done.
I will address these + the addition of some abilities + the AP Downgrade
Hello there, would you mind giving your input here:

GarrixianXD
GarrixianXD
Disagree. Dalesean has already addressed the reasons for this.
sageof8paths
sageof8paths
The op has been changed. Dalesean and I both agree to use the standard calc for vapourizing earth as opposed to surface wiping
Hello, Ultima,
I had some questions regarding Nonduality (current definitions), and was hoping you could answer them:

If a verse revolves around the duality of Yin Yang or Light and Darkness (on a Conceptual level), where said "Yin" and "Yang" are treated as qualities or fundamental truths governing all existence (not a single universe/space-time continuity), could they be treated as the General Duality with just that much context? (Inasmuch as that something Nondual to them would attain Nonduality type 2)

And what if, under the same premise as the first question, the verse also contextualizes that said Yin and Yang give birth to many other yin-yang type connections (some of which are also conceptual, yet still overall a "part" of that "bigger" Duality of Yin-yang), would that be enough to be treated as the General Duality if the context of the first question is not enough?

Note: The verse has introduced many stuff from Buddhism, as well as Chinese stuff in general (though its a japanese novel).
Hi Damage, if you have the time could you please look over this CRT?

Could you give your input regarding this question? Thanks!

Hello! Can you please give your input here? It's a very short CRT. Thank you in advance!
hey can you check this?
Back
Top