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First, SS3 Goku powering up shook the afterlife (with the force of a hurricane if we use Grand Kai's statement) . According to this post, shaking the universe is a multi-galaxy feat. Goku shook hell as well as heaven, both of which are contained inside of the afterlife (which is massive enough to contain muliple of these realms), which he shook as well (at least a universal feat then?). Goku's ki was felt throughout the entire universe in the manga, as it was felt at the kaioshin's realm which resides outside of the universe.
-Taken from Kanzenshuu -
The Afterlife ÒüéÒü«õ©û/anoyo Translation: that world, the other world, the afterlife Other Names: the Netherworld (Viz), Other World (Funi), the Next Dimension (early Funi), the next world, the world beyond
The afterlife is the world where people go when they die, and where the gods who watch over the living universe reside. Apart from the gods and the dead, the afterlife is also home to the oni, ogre-like monsters of Japanese myth. They are portrayed as the administrators of the afterlife, assisting the judge of the dead, Enma Daio (Great King Enma, aka King Yama), a figure taken from Buddhist and Hindu mythology. Daizenshuu 7 says that Mister Popo and Karin are also beings native to the afterlife, sent to Earth to assist its God. Similar assistants from the afterlife are sent to the gods of each world. In addition, Akkuman's race of devils is from the afterlife (Hell to be exact). According to Goku, time doesn't exist in the afterlife, though it's not clear just what this entails, other than that using Super Saiyan 3 there is easier.
I. Hell
Õ£░þìä/jigoku Translation: hell, the earthly priso Other Names: HFIL, the Home for Infinite Losers (Funi)
Hell is where the dead souls which Enma Daio judges to be evil are sent to. It consists of an extremely vast, rocky plain that takes up the entire lower portion of the afterlife, and is covered by the yellow clouds that surround Enma's palace and the Serpent Road.
Heave
Õñ®Õø¢/tengoku Translation: heaven, the heavenly country Other Names: the Upper World (Viz)
As you might expect, Heaven is where those who Enma Daio judges to be good are allowed to go to. It's a large planet directly above Enma's palace. To reach Heaven, one must ride a special plane that takes off from an airport near Enma's palace (this plane was part of Toriyama's drawing of the afterlife, but only appears in the anime). The place where Goku is shown training for the 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai is identified in the daizenshuu as being Heaven. It's shown as a pleasant, grassy place with round buildings. The sky has odd clouds, and a moon or something is visible at one point (maybe it's Dai-Kaio's planet?). In addition to Goku and Kaio, a dead dog and squid creature are also seen here. Kaio continues to hang out here for the rest of the Boo arc, since his planet was destroyed by Cell. When Dabra dies, Enma decides to send him here, on the logic that he'd be happy to go to Hell (this is mentioned in the manga, though it's only in the anime that we actually get to see Dabra in Heaven).
In the anime, Videl, Bulma, and co. look for Gohan here after being killed by Boo. Heaven is said to be as wide as the entire universe itself, and seems to consist mostly of an immense field of flowers. Videl and the other dead people are shown as looking the same as in life from the waist upward, but with ghostly tails instead of legs, and the standard halo. Dabra is shown as now being ridiculously nice and happy now, to the point that he freaks everyone else out. In GT, Piccolo comes to Heaven after dying in the destruction of Earth, but he purposefully makes Enma send him to Hell to save Goku. Kaio also seems to still be hanging around Heaven at the start of GT (or perhaps Dai-Kaio's planet).
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[Possible other universal feats]
DBZ universe globe
Janemba's casual mouth beam seriously damaged Goku who barely tanked it, as well as producing a light that surpassed even the check-in station, which is beyond hell. Related to that, we have Goku and Beerus's fight producing a light that could be seen throughout the universe as well, which is a 4-B feat. Janemba was able to completely decimate Goku and Vegeta at their individual full power.
Also, Janemba's profile says he's Galactic range with reality warping, but with the feats shown, it should be multi-universal, at least universal, since he affected the entirety of the afterlife, as well as the mortal universe (which is why villains appeared there).
There's also previous movie scaling such as Broly's galaxy destruction earlier which Janemba and Goku scales from. Heck, in the Cooler movie the Sun bust was calc'd at multi solar system le
vel. There's non-canon Kid Buu destroying earth with a blast radius comparable to a galaxy (could be argued that there's an angle difference), and there's also the fact that he was going to destroy Grand Kai's planet, which is multi-galaxy in size.
Goku states that he could've destroyed Fat Buu if he wanted to, and Vegeta states that at full power, SS3 Goku should be able to destroy Kid Buu.
Since Goku had no power increase from when he fought Fat Buu Goku at full power from when he fought Fat Buu would still be strong enough to defeat Kid Buu.
Gogeta was able to physically strike Janemba with what seems like a barrage of punches, even though he only flexed his ki. Those attacks negated Janemba's Regenerationn, as he carries that damage to his body until he is killed. His ki also outshined the universe as a fun fact (4-B).
There's also the fact that an interview with Ryo Mito, the producer of Shin Budokai said :
" Janemba is an evil creature that appeared in HIFL. He is the strongest enemy to appear in the Dragon Ball Z anime movies. He possesses overwhelming power and speed and has a variety of special moves at his disposal. He can use his club to create a very sharp sword, which he uses to attack his opponents in the game. He's as powerful in the game as he was in the movie, so he'll be one of the strongest characters in the game. "
"When it comes to game modes, the main mode in Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai is called Dragon Road. Dragon Road mode is a multiscenario story mode based on the events in the upcoming DBZ movie, Fusion Rebor. After Buu is defeated and peace returns to the world, evil builds up in HIFL, creating a creature called Janemba. Janemba plays havoc with the order of the world for his own pleasure, resurrecting the dead, twisting time and space, and making copies of strong warriors to fight for him. Goku and his friends call upon many different allies, and even some old enemies, to try to defeat Janemba. The sweeping story, which is centered on Janemba and Pikkon (my favorite!), takes place in both the normal world and the Other World."
Which would mean a 2-C Janemba since he would be equal to his video game counterpart.
Also correct me if I'm wrong, but by using the minimum TNT requirement for universal destruction given in the AP chart , a nuclear blast with that amount of TNT would have values that span massively beyond one universe (after converting 1.699x10^83 tons to 1.699x10^77 megatons)
-Taken from Kanzenshuu -
The Afterlife ÒüéÒü«õ©û/anoyo Translation: that world, the other world, the afterlife Other Names: the Netherworld (Viz), Other World (Funi), the Next Dimension (early Funi), the next world, the world beyond
The afterlife is the world where people go when they die, and where the gods who watch over the living universe reside. Apart from the gods and the dead, the afterlife is also home to the oni, ogre-like monsters of Japanese myth. They are portrayed as the administrators of the afterlife, assisting the judge of the dead, Enma Daio (Great King Enma, aka King Yama), a figure taken from Buddhist and Hindu mythology. Daizenshuu 7 says that Mister Popo and Karin are also beings native to the afterlife, sent to Earth to assist its God. Similar assistants from the afterlife are sent to the gods of each world. In addition, Akkuman's race of devils is from the afterlife (Hell to be exact). According to Goku, time doesn't exist in the afterlife, though it's not clear just what this entails, other than that using Super Saiyan 3 there is easier.
I. Hell
Õ£░þìä/jigoku Translation: hell, the earthly priso Other Names: HFIL, the Home for Infinite Losers (Funi)
Hell is where the dead souls which Enma Daio judges to be evil are sent to. It consists of an extremely vast, rocky plain that takes up the entire lower portion of the afterlife, and is covered by the yellow clouds that surround Enma's palace and the Serpent Road.
Heave
Õñ®Õø¢/tengoku Translation: heaven, the heavenly country Other Names: the Upper World (Viz)
As you might expect, Heaven is where those who Enma Daio judges to be good are allowed to go to. It's a large planet directly above Enma's palace. To reach Heaven, one must ride a special plane that takes off from an airport near Enma's palace (this plane was part of Toriyama's drawing of the afterlife, but only appears in the anime). The place where Goku is shown training for the 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai is identified in the daizenshuu as being Heaven. It's shown as a pleasant, grassy place with round buildings. The sky has odd clouds, and a moon or something is visible at one point (maybe it's Dai-Kaio's planet?). In addition to Goku and Kaio, a dead dog and squid creature are also seen here. Kaio continues to hang out here for the rest of the Boo arc, since his planet was destroyed by Cell. When Dabra dies, Enma decides to send him here, on the logic that he'd be happy to go to Hell (this is mentioned in the manga, though it's only in the anime that we actually get to see Dabra in Heaven).
In the anime, Videl, Bulma, and co. look for Gohan here after being killed by Boo. Heaven is said to be as wide as the entire universe itself, and seems to consist mostly of an immense field of flowers. Videl and the other dead people are shown as looking the same as in life from the waist upward, but with ghostly tails instead of legs, and the standard halo. Dabra is shown as now being ridiculously nice and happy now, to the point that he freaks everyone else out. In GT, Piccolo comes to Heaven after dying in the destruction of Earth, but he purposefully makes Enma send him to Hell to save Goku. Kaio also seems to still be hanging around Heaven at the start of GT (or perhaps Dai-Kaio's planet).
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[Possible other universal feats]
DBZ universe globe
Janemba's casual mouth beam seriously damaged Goku who barely tanked it, as well as producing a light that surpassed even the check-in station, which is beyond hell. Related to that, we have Goku and Beerus's fight producing a light that could be seen throughout the universe as well, which is a 4-B feat. Janemba was able to completely decimate Goku and Vegeta at their individual full power.
Also, Janemba's profile says he's Galactic range with reality warping, but with the feats shown, it should be multi-universal, at least universal, since he affected the entirety of the afterlife, as well as the mortal universe (which is why villains appeared there).
There's also previous movie scaling such as Broly's galaxy destruction earlier which Janemba and Goku scales from. Heck, in the Cooler movie the Sun bust was calc'd at multi solar system le
vel. There's non-canon Kid Buu destroying earth with a blast radius comparable to a galaxy (could be argued that there's an angle difference), and there's also the fact that he was going to destroy Grand Kai's planet, which is multi-galaxy in size.
Goku states that he could've destroyed Fat Buu if he wanted to, and Vegeta states that at full power, SS3 Goku should be able to destroy Kid Buu.
Since Goku had no power increase from when he fought Fat Buu Goku at full power from when he fought Fat Buu would still be strong enough to defeat Kid Buu.
Gogeta was able to physically strike Janemba with what seems like a barrage of punches, even though he only flexed his ki. Those attacks negated Janemba's Regenerationn, as he carries that damage to his body until he is killed. His ki also outshined the universe as a fun fact (4-B).
There's also the fact that an interview with Ryo Mito, the producer of Shin Budokai said :
" Janemba is an evil creature that appeared in HIFL. He is the strongest enemy to appear in the Dragon Ball Z anime movies. He possesses overwhelming power and speed and has a variety of special moves at his disposal. He can use his club to create a very sharp sword, which he uses to attack his opponents in the game. He's as powerful in the game as he was in the movie, so he'll be one of the strongest characters in the game. "
"When it comes to game modes, the main mode in Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai is called Dragon Road. Dragon Road mode is a multiscenario story mode based on the events in the upcoming DBZ movie, Fusion Rebor. After Buu is defeated and peace returns to the world, evil builds up in HIFL, creating a creature called Janemba. Janemba plays havoc with the order of the world for his own pleasure, resurrecting the dead, twisting time and space, and making copies of strong warriors to fight for him. Goku and his friends call upon many different allies, and even some old enemies, to try to defeat Janemba. The sweeping story, which is centered on Janemba and Pikkon (my favorite!), takes place in both the normal world and the Other World."
Which would mean a 2-C Janemba since he would be equal to his video game counterpart.
Also correct me if I'm wrong, but by using the minimum TNT requirement for universal destruction given in the AP chart , a nuclear blast with that amount of TNT would have values that span massively beyond one universe (after converting 1.699x10^83 tons to 1.699x10^77 megatons)
