Possible Buffs to Devil May Cry and God tier.

Hello, i new here and sorry for the grammar mistakes.

There is a FTL speed feat citation coming from Devil May Cry 3142 Graphic Arts, according to Devil May Cry 3142 Graphic Arts, Beowulf makes use of lightbased attacks.

There is another citation coming from Dante's Attack named Zodiac where Dante can throw a ball of light. And there is a visual indication of light emiting when Beowulf and Dante/Vergil using Beowulf attacks.

Vergil should be FTL since he speed blitz Beowulf.

Beowulf being FTL : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706650766177468537/unknown.png

Dante move attack of throwing a ball made of light

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706652291612016650/unknown.png

Now lets buff Dante, Vergil AP.

There is a citation from another attack where Dante can do a Small supernova using Beowulf, this AP buff algo applies to Beowulf and Vergil.

So a Large star buff.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706653750995189793/unknown.png

Last AP buff comes from Arkham with Sparda sword being obvious more powerful than Beowulf and managing to win against Dante (without DT) who can oneshot casually Beowulf.

There is a possibility of being Solar System buff.

This also comes with a speed Buff since both of them is far more faster than Beowulf.

So a FTL+ with possibility of being MFTL.


Another Ap and Speed buff is to Nightmare, a low ball is him having the same AP and Speed from Arkham with sparda sword. A hight ball is him having universal AP. Since Nightmare is created by Mundus using the qliphoth fruit.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706664388907761665/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706664907567005778/unknown.png

Argosax should have Non corporeal and probably being a concept or a abstract existence.

He was a name of Argoax the chaos and according to the Graphic arts.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706667723597283398/unknown.png

Vergil and Dante should have low godly to possible mid godly Regenerationn. Why ? Because Vergil in the last fight against Dante in DMC1 literally explodes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pXhm2Ztjg0 3:39

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706673036677349436/unknown.png

Now some others speed feats...i warn you, this last part might be crazy but stay with me is going to make sense.

Those last speed feats is a bunch of immensurable feats.. yes DMC... immensurable yeah, this type of feat belongs to the God tier of DMC and to some characters that were exceptions to that.

First immensurable speed feat comes from DMC3 yes DMC3. In the mission 19 Dante is teleported to a place where he needs to bend time and space in tha rom... this means, Dante is walking, attacking etc in a place where there is no time and space...

Another immensurable speed comes from Devil May Cry volume 2 Novel.

Dante fights Void Mundus, knowing Mundus (and Void Mundus) created the Beastheads which dont have concept of time and space, this also applies to Void Mundus.

Another immensurable speed comes from Chen using the Beastheads, the beastheads removed the concept of time and space on Chen, and Dante fights Chen, and wins.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706683578884554832/unknown.png


Another yes another is Dante absorving the power of the beast heads, also comes with Reality Warping.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706684368717873261/unknown.png

And finally, ending with a infinite speed feat coming from Predador Fury.

In the Nico files, Predador Fury is stated to do little jumps in the space and time by using demonic energy and speed.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694244618803609662/706685626682048532/unknown.png

Dante casually stops Predador Fury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBIP50x1OxM


Immensurable users of DMC: Dante, Vergil, Urizen, Mundus, Void Mundus, Argosax, Sparda, Bolverk, Beatheads, Beastheads Chen, Arkham using Sparda sword and Abigail yes, Abigail.

In Abigail defense, according to Sid in the Devil May Cry Anime, Abigail once rivalized the Demon King, Sid is talking about Mundus. So Abigail should have a huge AP buff and Immensurable Speed.

Proof : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmoWMiwJPzw

Time : 22:05

Since i buffing Abigail to universal+ , im also have another possible buff.

Everyone from Devil May Cry God tier can be Low multiversal, not universal + why ?

According to DMC2, time and space as been warped with the come of demon world, this mean the Human world have is own time and space, and Sparda sealed the demon world with Yamato. Yamato manipulates the time and space, in conclusion, Sparda created a space and time seal with size of the demon world, so we have 3 universes with is own Time and space, so the Argosax feat is a low multiverse, and Mundus reuniting the human world and demon world 2000 years ago is a low multiverse feat.

Low multiversal users : Dante, Vergil, Urizen, Nero, Mundus, Void Mundus, Sparda, Abigail, Argosax, Bolverk and possible Beastheads.

Bolverk scales with Sparda, Sparda scales with Mundus and Beastheads scales with Mundus and Dante.


Is Immensurable consistent ? Yes, Dante never was speed blitzed or someone being more faster than him, and there is alot of immensurable feats, so is consistent with Dante, is consist with the rest of god tier characters since Mundus created the Beastheads, Bolverk scales with sparda which scales with Mundus, Void Mundus for obvious reasons.

Let's talk about Nero Speed and DMC4 Nero's AP.

I have nothing against Nero in DMC4 being MH+ , but.... since Sanctus was using the Sparda Sword, the same logic as Arkham, but being less in scaling, so FTL to a FTL+ to Nero and since the Savior managed to recreate alot of boss fights with have a Sun. So, Star to possible large star level to Nero, Sanctus and Savior.


A thread about Dante, Vergi, Nero, Urizen AP will come.

Just coming to tell you, this is not gonna go well, that and we are in a forum move and a big revision like this with a controversial verse like DMC means a lot of posts.

What I suggest is saving this in a blog or sandbox and wait till the move to post it

Oof

If you don't have concept of time and space= Acausality type 4?

maybe, although depending on the context it can be type 0 of Beyond-Dimensional Existence.

Im honestly unsure if this will be accepted or not.

I think that the FTL feat is fine and dante mentions being able to double reality after its drive for power by the beastheads so it should have it, and I am doubting the non-colpore of argosax and the lack of concept of space time perhaps it refers to that you can manipulate spacetime on a conceptual level or a type of acausuality although it would probably be just flowery language (I'm more inclined to control the concept of spacetime)

Vergil seems a strange case, maybe it is teletransportation or maybe mid godly I don't know (although it would not be applicable to combat in any case).

the rest is a no

Just wait till the forum move, then we can discuss this slowly

Ok

Tony di bugalu said:

Just coming to tell you, this is not gonna go well, that and we are in a forum move and a big revision like this with a controversial verse like DMC means a lot of posts.
What I suggest is saving this in a blog or sandbox and wait till the move to post it

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Hmm ok, thanks for the info, do you know when VSB is going to move ?

I don't know when the date of the movement will be, but here you can find informatio.

Well, since apparently we still have like a month before the move this can be done.

Yo I have a question...
So I have heard rumours that Qlipoth may have some extra dimensional nature because it ignores or transcends space-time..or something along those lines.....being able to look a creation as illusion?!?!
Is this true....can someone clarify.

We asked people that know japanese to translate DMC5 graphic arts novel and the novel only implies that the Qliphoth Tree created an illusion based on Vergil memories.

''It is an illusory space created by the Demon World Tree based on the memories of the Demon King (Vergil).
It is a space created by the Demon Tree based on the memories of the Demon Lord (Vergil), and is the only place where one can feel at ease. However, the Demon King is only interested in the fruit, and ironically, the shock of battle causes the space to collapse, eventually returning to the demon world of the past.''

And here the japanese raws if you are interested on translate yourself

魔王(バージル)の記憶を元に魔界樹が、 作り出した幻想空間であり、唯一気が
安らぐ場所として作り上げられた空間で す。ただ、魔王は実にしか興味は無く、皮肉にも戦いの衝撃で空 間が崩れて、最終的に元の不気味な魔界へと戻ってしまいます。

Also seeing that you showed interest in the verse, we have a DMC discussion thread if you are interested.

Damn...so no "trancending space-time" stuff....my hopes are dashed and burned.
I thought we could give god tiers an upgrade based on the supposed "5D" powers....but aahhh we can't because no such thing exists!!!

I still think we can argue for non-linear speeds though for God Tiers.....I think....based of off Beastheads and Argosax feats.....also Dante moving in Mirror Realm I think if stuff about "reverse flow of time" are true.

Which feats of Beastheads and Argosax that you are talking about?

The flow of time being different comes from the Demon World himself. living in a different flow of time works more as acausality type 4 feat for demons and Hybrids in the serie.

Yup I'll explain in the DMC discussion thread you gave link for...thanks for that!!

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I am back, can someone tell me what did i miss?

Well, the DMC downgrade thread was closed and now Earl is stonealling my CTR

A New chapter of the DMC5 manga was released somedays ago

Warrior Vallen is leaving the wiki along with other people

Tony_di_bugalu said:

I am back, can someone tell me what did i miss?

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