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Not sure ir is also techno manip or fusionism alone byt outside of that new things look good
You Prolly ask the mods that usually evealuate dmc threads in their walls atp
 
not really buying the invulnerability or invul negation stuff, and the subjective reality stuff just sounds like illusion creation. The rest is fine.
 
the subjective reality stuff just sounds like illusion creation.
Illusion Creation is more limited to mental or perception based. While those of the Qliphoth are more tangible and has affected the physical reality. Even for Malphas we consider her powers to be pocket reality in the wiki, instead of just illusions.
Just wanted to clarify about this
 
That’s not how negation of invulnerability or intangibility works in the first place, the former is just being strong enough to harm them and the other is just NPI
 
That’s not how negation of invulnerability or intangibility works in the first place, the former is just being strong enough to harm them and the other is just NPI
What? The whole point of invulnerability is that its completely immune to conventional harm, which is verbatim stated here along with being "unbound by material constraints of Human World" which should be enough for it not being just durability but hax
Intangibility and its negation is not part of this thread, Glass
 
Being impervious to all attacks doesn’t automatically mean invulnerability when Dante is using a much stronger devil trigger in the first place. This needs to be some supernatural element to it akin to Hercules from Fate/Stay Night where he cannot get harmed by something that wounded him or killed him in the past. Being unbound by material constraints of the human world doesn’t sound like any form of invulnerability, that sounds more like intangibility or incorporeal. If material stuff doesn’t apply to this creature in the first place.

Oh whoops, confused this thread with another DMC thread that was pushing for intangibility negation, my bad.
 
Being impervious to all attacks doesn’t automatically mean invulnerability when Dante is using a much stronger devil trigger in the first place. This needs to be some supernatural element to it akin to Hercules from Fate/Stay Night where he cannot get harmed by something that wounded him or killed him in the past. Being unbound by material constraints of the human world doesn’t sound like any form of invulnerability, that sounds more like intangibility or incorporeal. If material stuff doesn’t apply to this creature in the first place.

Oh whoops, confused this thread with another DMC thread that was pushing for intangibility negation, my bad.
Invulnerability is the power to be immune to conventional harm.

Characters with such powers may simply be unaffected by normal attacks, necessitating the use of things like Durability Negation to get through. Others have more conditional invulnerability, such as one that just prevents harm from conventional weaponry, but can be easily circumvented by supernatural abilities. It can be considered the defensive equivalent of Durability Negation, negating simple Attack Potency, though one should be careful not to apply No Limits Fallacy.


These guys are pretty much invulnerable until you break their wings which fits 1:1 to the page description of invulnerability
 
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