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Rukia vs Hitsugaya

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rukia could easily win with absolute zero ? i don't know how AZ is treated here but it is kinda instant kill if you don't resist no ?
 
not sure.

true bankai hitsu Ap stomp but weaker keys don't have AZ resistances either so i'm the fence.
 
Why didn't I notice this thread

It really depends on who's going to start with Bankai first. Toshiro always goes like "BANKAAAII" without Shikai. Hitsugaya as a Captain should possess more actual skill (or Hyorinmaru is just too broken). And Toshi is like, way more versatile with his abilities. Dude can manipulate the weather at his full potential.
 
he like , never lead with it , not once . He kinda used it against gin but he was really pissed off and the weather manip never did anything offensively .

first , he fight a bit at close range , even against ennemies he know to be powerfull ( yammy , harribel)with base or shikai , throw an ice dragon sometime and then goes bankai using is strongest technique if it doesn't work .

but rukia will freeze his ass in the first part of the fight.
 
well ,Matsumoto didn't know about Kira's zanpakuto release and they are somewhat close so i doubt that hitsu know about others squad zanpakuto specific techniques .

we know that rukia's zanpakuto is famous for being the most beautiful zanpakuto but nothing was stated about the techniques .

as it is unclear , i will consider that he doesn't know unless someone bring up some info i don't know/forgot .
 
rukia was also only assigned to less threatening missions than neccesary iirc and stayed at lower seats when she could have been a lieutenant for a long time ( because byakuya wanted to protect her iirc) , so she probably didn't got much chances to display it her zanpakuto techniques in the first place ( beside personal training)

the only captain that probably know every zanpakuto is mayuri .
 
even if it was captain rukia , post time skip hitsu wouldn't have knowledge on her as he is from a different point in time .
 
heck,even if this was post TYBW Hitsugaya,he would still probably lose,if the fight starts in shikai

he needs 12 minutes after entering his bankai,to become "Mature" ,correct?

that is more than enough time for shikai/bankai Rukia to win
 
I say hitsugaya wins mid diff because he has many abilities to keep her at Range. Plus Rukia going absolute zero take alittle time to reach as she stated to As nodt, hitsugaya is a genius he would realize how her powers work and come up with a plan to defeat her. He may not have been stated to have absolute zero but he clearly stronger than her base on his many wide range of Ice abilities
 
i don't think we have anything that prove that post SK palace training base rukia is weaker or stronger than post time skip base toshiro .

toshiro like to start many fights in close range even against clearly physical fighters ( base yammy ,base harribel) be it in base , shikai or even bankai . He can throw a ice dragon here or there , sure , be he only bust out the op ice attacks as a last resort.

rukia post SK palace training used her shikai very early in the az nodt fight and used AZ really quickly , going to -50 degree to AZ and lauched her attack , all of that during a mid blizting az nodt

And no , being a genius doesn't mean hitsu will instantly know how work a zanpakuto he never saw , hell even aizen himself couldn't figure out instantly how shinji's shikai worked ,he had to experience an attack and get cut first .

Hitsu is far far below aizen in intelligence so there is no argument there.
 
Naeblis495 I don't think you understand. First, Rukia can not go absolute zero temperature that fast because when she activated her shikai she even stated that to as nodt when they started fighting she needed time to do it.

Second, me saying hitsugaya is a genius doesn't mean he knows exactly what you going to do, example is when hitsugaya was fighting espada 3 halibel, when she release her full power hitsugaya didn't know anything about her transformation abilities and didn't just rush her head-on so he started using long range attacks and use his ice clone to confirm that he can't fight her up close without being cut in half. Hitsugaya don't fight like kenpachi rushing head first in a battle. That's called being tactical.
 
Icezer00 said:
Naeblis495 I don't think you understand. First, Rukia can not go absolute zero temperature that fast because when she activated her shikai she even stated that to as nodt when they started fighting she needed time to do it.
Second, me saying hitsugaya is a genius doesn't mean he knows exactly what you going to do, example is when hitsugaya was fighting espada 3 halibel, when she release her full power hitsugaya didn't know anything about her transformation abilities and didn't just rush her head-on so he started using long range attacks and use his ice clone to confirm that he can't fight her up close without being cut in half. Hitsugaya don't fight like kenpachi rushing head first in a battle. That's called being tactical.
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she can't artificially "kill herself" instantly at that time but she barely had to dodge a single wave of spikes before being ready , so she need between 1 to 5 seconds.

after that she goes from -18 degree to AZ in 6 panels all the while attacking and talking so one again , not instant but clearly fast enough to even take a sternritter by surprise .

not to mention that we are talking about captain rukia wich have 10 years of more trainings than the rukia that fought Az Nodt .

not to mention her bankai that is a AOE one shot for poor hitsu .

Go reread all the hitsu fights , he have a huge tendency to go close quarter even against ennemies he KNOW he shouldn't ( like against karakura aizen , the first things he does is charge at him while still being composed mind you)
 
Toshiro is a better fighter in terms of swordsmanship and hand to hand, has better stats, and while speed is equalized his shunpo likely has a better techinque and refinement than hers. Toshiro also has better range and more potent technieques. This can go a few ways.

One could be where they engage in a close range fight first and then Toshiro would most likely win out over her. Due to the above reasons.

Another could be where the above happens but instead she uses Absolute Zero, which would lead to either A.) Toshiro getting hit and losing, B.) Toshiro getting hit and escaping similar to As Nodt by going Bankai or something like that (Though this is more of a lore based thing with the spiritual pressure amp rather than the vs wiki standards since they gave As Nodt AZ resistance rather than just getting out from spirtitual pressure). C.) He could just avoid her blade. Shikai Rukia has to touch/cut you with the blade to inflict AZ.

Then from there it could go like this. A.) Rukia goes Bankai too and uses her AOE to kill Hitsugaya, B.) Hitsugaya cut's her down or uses his zanpakuto abilities to take her out before that.

If Hitsugaya uses Tenso Jurin at any point of this fight, the series treats it as a massive AP boost as well so he'd more than likely be able to beat her out with that.

And finally, the biggest point I see here is the way their zanpakuto abilities would interact with each other. I think it'll be similar to a Hitsugaya vs Halibel kind of thing where it would be a fight for manipulation of ice, water and the weather. Hitsugaya can control all moisture in the area around him for a large range even without Tenso Jurin, so it's very likely that Rukia would be unable to freeze him as the water which she's lowering the temperature of wouldn't be able to hit him unless you make an argument that Rukia is stronger/has more potent and better control than Toshiro.

All in all I see it more likely that Toshiro wins over Rukia
 
I agree that Captain Rukia is most likely gonna be stronger and better trained with her powers than she was 10 years ago, however this still doesn't change the power difference between her and hitsugaya. Like Jo-Smooth mention in his explanation is that hitsugaya controls all aspects of Ice while Rukia only lowers the temperature. I really don't understand how anyone can say Rukia using AZ on hitsugaya will beat or kill him when as-nodt broke out while hitsugaya is resistant to the cold plus his bankai has ice all over his body without him ever being bother by it lol. I agree her level of cold is deadlier than his but with his high level of cold resistant should definitely allow him to thaw out and survive enough to realize she's a threat with having minor damage. In the end hitsugaya wins either way especially with tensho jurin ability, if we added mature hitsugaya that is a curbstomp.
 
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