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Rukia Kuchiki vs. Mami Tomoe (It's Time To Settle This) (Voting Completed)
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Buumply.
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Does Mami have anything that gets past AZ? Because this Rukia just spams that on everything.
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I don't know much about Mami or Puella Magi in general, but I'm pretty sure she might have some kind of Fire Manip, though I don't know how potent it is, or if it can get through Rukia's AZ.
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Yeah ... fire manip means absolutely nothing against AZ unless it has feats of countering it before. Rukia doesn't even need Bankai for this, everything that comes at her gets AZ'd and she kills Mami after a while (not sure how good Mami is at running/dodging).
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Fire manip doesn't even work around AZ, how does it hard counter?
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I'm just gonna pointing out this again.Homu Sweet Homu said:
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Oh did I vote?
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No from what I see above.
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Wait, did you vote for Mami, Homu?
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Nah, just gonna being the devil advocate here.
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In this case
Mami Ribbon Traps, Rukia ABZs, Rukia gets severely weakened before getting Ribbon trapped or shot in the face
Mami Ribbon Traps, Rukia ABZs, Rukia gets severely weakened before getting Ribbon trapped or shot in the face
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Not sure if the ribbon will work this time tho. Whatever Rukia touches or touches her instead, will get AZ'ed but she has only shown to do it on small scale and the range is pretty much a crap (in shikai state anyway).
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But you just said ABZ would kill her?
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If she uses Bankai. Her Shikai is AZ too, tho on much smaller scale but safe enough to not to kill Rukia.
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1. Can her AOE counter AZ? Because due to the nature of AZ, anything that touches an attack that's az get's pretty much destroyed....unless you have some kind of power null ability or something like that.Homu Sweet Homu said:
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What?
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.....I don't know how i can word that any better for you to understand.
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I don't remember Rukia AZ destroyed something big in her Shikai state.
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Rukia is not just limited to her zanpukto powers , she has a good amount of kido to.
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Not sure if that's help here, she is kinda novice in Kido anyway.
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Rukia isn't actually a novice with kido. Even with her Shikai, kido was still considered her strong suit, both by herself and other Shinigami.
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The thing is, most of the Kido are just basically some energy attacks, nothing noteworthy. The strongest offensive Kido she ever performed (Worth noted that she need to chant to perform it) was Hado #72 which is just a big blue fire, Mami shield can defend against that.
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Why Kido is even matter? She can one shots with Shikai while Mami wont one shots with her range attack, and for her range attack himself, she just need to freeze the projectile or if Mami try to avoid that by not shot at Rukia direcly and lets the AoE take care of her..well first direct attack will always do more damage than merely relies on the explosion blast to care of stuff.
Because something within 10 M from the center of explosion will take more damage than something at 1 KM away from the center of the explosion and even with direct Hit Mami profjectile only has Mountain level AP while Rukia has Mountain level+ Durability by default, not to mention she can use her shikai to further mitigate the damage by freeze some of the explosion and combine that with Shunpo to get away from the explosion radius and Im fairy sure for most of them time her peofjecly will only do minumum damage to her.
Because something within 10 M from the center of explosion will take more damage than something at 1 KM away from the center of the explosion and even with direct Hit Mami profjectile only has Mountain level AP while Rukia has Mountain level+ Durability by default, not to mention she can use her shikai to further mitigate the damage by freeze some of the explosion and combine that with Shunpo to get away from the explosion radius and Im fairy sure for most of them time her peofjecly will only do minumum damage to her.
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The explosion can easily reaches kilometers in an instant. And pretty sure Rukia doesn't know that the projectile can detonates into explosion, so it would be too late for her to dodgeHomu Sweet Homu said:
Also, Mami is Mountain level+ too. I agree it wasn't enough to one shot, but it is not as minimum as you believe.
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Mami isn't M+
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>Attack Potency: At least Mountain level, possibly higher (One shot False Kyoko, whose durability is far higher than Ophelia's. Has an attack power rating of 4.5, making her comparable to Elisa Celjska) | At least Mountain level, likely higher (Should be far superior to her magical girl self.) | At least Mountain level, possibly higher (Should at least be on par with her regular magical girl form). At least Mountain level, likely higher as Doppel Candeloro
Yeah no. even with direct hit, I doubt she can do much of damage
>And pretty sure Rukia doesn't know that the projectile can detonates into explosion, so it would be too late for her to dodge
Yep, thats why I said for most of the time, her projectile will only do minumum damage to her, Cuz rukia has no idea that she will shooting a nuke at her, but at the same time Mami has no idea Rukia can freeze stuff too, so she can freeze her first projectile will no issue and close the gap with Shunpo and move for the kill, and if she get too close to mami and mami will try to nuke her, thanks to her big AoE, she will likely damage herself in process
Also, in character does mami will even shot her nuke at her target if her target get too close to her?
Yeah no. even with direct hit, I doubt she can do much of damage
>And pretty sure Rukia doesn't know that the projectile can detonates into explosion, so it would be too late for her to dodge
Yep, thats why I said for most of the time, her projectile will only do minumum damage to her, Cuz rukia has no idea that she will shooting a nuke at her, but at the same time Mami has no idea Rukia can freeze stuff too, so she can freeze her first projectile will no issue and close the gap with Shunpo and move for the kill, and if she get too close to mami and mami will try to nuke her, thanks to her big AoE, she will likely damage herself in process
Also, in character does mami will even shot her nuke at her target if her target get too close to her?
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Ah...right, the downgrade. Forget about that.Schnee One said:
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<We don't give M+ without a calc
<But still treat it as if they are
What was even the point of this rule again?
<But still treat it as if they are
What was even the point of this rule again?
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I'm asking a general.
Who was then?
Who was then?
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When you first joined the site?
Because I've literally never heard of this rule since recently.
Because I've literally never heard of this rule since recently.
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Right this doesn't make sense to me but this is t the place for that
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