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Riven vs Yujiro Hanma

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  • Speed Equalized
  • In character
  • First key Riven
VOTES:

  • The Exile: 8 (ThePixelKirby, Rocker, WeeklyBattle, Dragonpentling, Blackcurrant, ZackMoon, Jaxmister, Jimboy)
  • The Ogre: 5 (IapitusTheImpaler, Anttron, N-nani, Firephoenixearl, SirLancelot)
  • Incon:
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A broken blade is more than enough for the likes of you!

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Surely you don't mean to challenge me. Stupidity of this magnitude can't possibly exist.
 
I'm gonna vote for Hanma due to aura and his skill advantage. Most of her techniques look to be skill or martial arts based, which means he can copy them. Also, no, it doesn't matter that he doesn't have a sword since iirc there are Baki characters who can use sword techniques despite not having swords, and Hanma should scale from them. His aura is gonna make her hesitate, and his .5 seconds of free hits is a massive edge considering how fast the two of them are. He more than deals with the AP difference.

For these reasons, I vote Hanma
 
her page should be more overt about this. Ki Burst in particular implies exactly what it says on the can. Either way, Hanma still take it, just with a slightly better margin, for the other reasons I said above
 
@Iapitus Which reasons are you referring to? The fact that she can spam paralyze him with rune magic kinda counters just about everything he can do
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Riven can also physically paralyze him with her rune magic if he gets anywhere near her
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He can paralyze from aura, or at the very least induce intense fear. If it has any active component, then he still has .5 seconds of free hits before she turns it on. Even after that is up, he still has Udonde
 
Also

Ki Burst: Riven's sword emits a burst of runic energy that shocks nearby enemies, dealing physical damage and stunning them.

What about this isnt overt exactly?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Iapitus Which reasons are you referring to? The fact that she can spam paralyze him with rune magic kinda counters just about everything he can do
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She still has to actively activate it, which means he gets .5 seconds of free hits and at their speed that is a lot of damage. Udonde also means that if she has to actively think about an ability to attack him, then he has already struck first by reflex. He also has passive fear aura as well
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Also
Ki Burst: Riven's sword emits a burst of runic energy that shocks nearby enemies, dealing physical damage and stunning them.

What about this isnt overt exactly?
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I am pretty sure Baki characters are capable of Ki techniques, and runic sounded more like something to do with the power system then magic.
 
Why would her shock attacks affect him? He tanks lightning bolts and laughs them off while still walking. This is canon.
 
Her forcefield is actually passive yes, in the lore she was able to use a forcefield to block an explosion of poison without needing to use her Valor ability

Though even if it werent passive, her opponent giving off a fear aura would instinctively send her into defense mode which would have her use Valor to try to get away and shield herself anyways
 
Anttron224 said:
Why would her shock attacks affect him? He tanks lightning bolts and laughs them off while still walking. This is canon.
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Its paralyzing magic, not electricity
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Her forcefield is actually passive yes, in the lore she was able to use a forcefield to block an explosion of poison without needing to use her Valor ability
Though even if it werent passive, her opponent giving off a fear aura would instinctively send her into defense mode which would have her use Valor to try to get away and shield herself anyways
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Put that on her profile then.

Yeah, but the point is that he has .5 seconds before he would have tossed up the force field. Also, if she has to think about something, then he has already attacked by reflex before she got the chance, don't forget that. He should be able to get rid of the forcefields with little issue in that time, and considering how fast these characters are, he should be able to still get the edge in damage even with the forcefields. I'm also pretty sure there is actually a technique that can be used to break barriers like this in one palm motion, that I am trying to figure out if he would know.
 
I did

Theyre dozens of meters away from each other as per SBA and speed is equalized, he's not crossing that distance before riven thinks

Riven and her forcefields are also 2x stronger than him so no, he does not have the edge in damage
 
Yujiro uses damage reduction against Riven's attacks while stunned, then while he's unstunned he can use pressure points to immobilize Riven and kill her. He can use info analysis to find the easiest way possible to do that. He can copy any of her martial arts/ki attacks and use them better than she could. He can use precognition to see everything she's going to attempt and avoid them or counter them.
 
I made a quick thread with this very question under it, so if you wouldn't mind putting this answer again there just to make it more official, that would be great. We should have more notable techniques like the way of the void, Hypnotism techniques, the sword techniques of Musashi, etc. listed on his profile
 
The fact that Riven not only has x2 Dura but also constant, spammable shields means Yujiro will have a very hard time actually hurting Riven. Not only that, but Riven's fighting style combines a lot of different techniques including runic magic, and the constant stunning will certainly put Yujiro down.

Vote Riven.
 
Anttron224 said:
Yujiro uses damage reduction against Riven's attacks while stunned, then while he's unstunned he can use pressure points to immobilize Riven and kill her. He can use info analysis to find the easiest way possible to do that. He can copy any of her martial arts/ki attacks and use them better than she could. He can use precognition to see everything she's going to attempt and avoid them or counter them.
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Damage reduction helps, but her advantage is still x2. Not to mention, arguments for Yujiro act as if Riven's a complete, untrained doofus. She is incredibly skilled and potent in combat, too.
 
He can see every move an opponent takes before they take it. That isn't the real Baki, its his future actions.
 
Okay my bad, I misunderstood what was happening

However. in that scan he sees all of two kicks, how does that equate to being able to see everything the opponent could possibly do? Especially when he doesn't have the luxury of looking at an unconscious opponent to figure out what they can do in this fight
 
Well, the guy is literally immobile on the ground and Yujiro can already see his future movements. Pretty sure he will predict Riven's actions just by seeing the slightest movement from her
 
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