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Novel Kars vs. SCP-682 (Concluded)

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>Maybe this time the match can work...?

It won't, the whole Higher-D Immortality wouldn't get restricted in near future.
 
Kars punches 682

682 gets splattered

682 regenerates and shows Kars what the inside of of a stomach looks like
 
>Implying kars would punch a being with adaption.

>Implying kars would not adapt himself to be more powerful in retaliation and then work around the adaption.

>Implying something as hilariously bad as mere eating would prevent him from escaping.

D4c and time rewind on himself would get him away.

Forgetting kars can dimension hop weekly? Or soul and consciousness transfer man. Really showing that ya have what amounts to no idea what kars would be capable of.

What does 682 have on a endurance for having his mind outright explicitly removed from him. (Which mindhax resistance would do anything for as thats definitely not run of the mill hax ) Or incapacitation from dune. (And as previously established 682 doesnt adapt on non lethal or outright dangerous events or stimuli).

Also unless the higher dimensional power is quite instant d4c would work fine. D4c needs mid godly come back from.
 
Yeah and yeah aware of the no low 2-C stats for kars although d4c is completely non combat applicable for that tier. His power is only 8-B.
 
Upon looking at the batle assumption Victory Conditions: Killing the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions.

If the reptile cant do anything about having his mind removed (ohko) or being restrained by dune (for a day) or come back from d4c with higher dimensional support for an hour kars would win .
 
Kars doesn't have D4C in this fight

682 resisted it's consciousness being removed and destroyed and then reflected the effect back onto the guy using it and took control of him. And yes, as I've already explained to you 682 can adapt to non threatening things and it has done so before.

682 would be able to absorb Dune's sand and use it to make himself stronger if not outright absorbing its powers
 
No it resisted possession according to the profile. Mate ya say that yet I don't see any evidence. Especially not any that isnt something as trivial as claws. If scp could do that and perfectly adapt for any scenario even when the scenario doesnt harm or danger him. Then he wouldnt have any of the keys or be in containment. Or the foundation wouldnt feel the need to now amp the acid because hes finally getting used to the thing. The user on that thread actualy agreed with me on that front.

Unless youre debating d4c is low 2-C in capacity then he does. Although can restrict the low 2-C funtion of d4c and the match would go on . Its a no factor for the fight.

Since when could scp absorb sand or mortar and the like. Because fun fact. Dune isnt a stand if thats what ya think. Dune isnt a "it" its litterally sand. Sand that jars "talked" and convinced to become a weapon.

Also ya didnt even mention the fact but kars could still incapacitate him with raw strength for a day. He clearly doesnt adapt to being contained that fast. Also actually. Kars would have plenty of time to do what he must and adapt to scp himself. Scp lacks a time stop endurance.
 
From 682's own page:

"Resisted having its consciousness destroyed and being possessed by Dr. Bright using SCP-963"

682 remains in containment because SCP-343 makes him. Even if he didnt him staying in containment is heavy PIS as 682 has displayed time and time again that it can freely escape containment whenever it wants and there is little the foundation can do to prevent it as even the weapons they designed to specifically fight 682 do little to nothing against it.

OP restricted everything past 6-B, so no D4C

In its fight against 076 it literally ate dirt and stone and absorbed them. Hell in its containment chamber it is able to consume and absorb the acid it is submerged in.

A guy with Class M lifting strength trying to incapacitate a monster that can adapt to have Stellar Class lifting strength? A toddler would have more luck trying to restrain a body builder. Kars also lacks the ability to stop time for more than an hour.
 
Yeah? Cool where does that say removed? Destroyed? Ok. Possessed? Already said that. Weekly posting feats that dont actualy give scp a resustance to what ya claim? Dont. Post scp having his mind. Quite literally removed. As of now scp cant weekly.

Yeah but weekly. Adapting after "eventually" and adapting on the spot to multiple non lethal stimuli is completely different. Of course now that i think of it. Ya dont actualy post time frames for the majority of his adaption.

So ya are debating and insinuating d4c does have universal statistics weekly? Correct me if im wrong but did ya not enforce that d4c didnt ?.

Weekly thats a fr cry from absorbing dune.

Yeah. But kars wouldnt actively harming him.

Also cool that has literally no bearing on what my point was. Kars would have a free hour of adapting his powers and evolving himself to where he could incapacitate as well as the fact scp cant do a thing about him.

Also scp also cant defeat kars anyway he also has adaption that works at a whim.
 
Kars'profile says that he's 8-B with D4C, and Low 2-C with Made in heaven Ultimate Requiem.

D4C isn't restricted here.
 
Kars wouldn't know 682 can adapt. SBA is absolutely no prior knowledge.

682 would probably just use mid godly regen to come back from having its brain removed.

Most of his adaptations don't have time-frames because usually they're not explicitly told.

682 has eaten/absorbed sand before. I don't see why he wouldn't be considered capable of fighting after 24 absorbing Dune.

However I do agree that d4c isn't restricted.

Holding off a vote for now until someone can explain how 682 gets around d4c, or someone explains how Kars would incap 682.
 
He can understand though from a glance.

No? What? Brain? Where did ya get that from? Kars can remove the no physical mind (and soul but scp doesnt have a soul) from an opponent as a disc.

Thats a major issue.

Because absorbing sand an absorbing a planets worth is different.

Kars can literally remove his mind which he lacks a resistance to from what i can percieve from the profile. Or litterally do what the foundation does. Kars can melt targets and rot oponents from a distance. If the foundantion can contain him with acid and a facility then a dune acid combo may work. D4c would ohko for at least an hour though as d4c erases from existence. Meaning midgodly would be needed.

And scp cant damage kars because of d4c multiversal body hop.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Acausality and regen get around D4C's merging
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Youre not exactly paying attention are ya weekly.

Acausuality wont prevent d4c weekly. Its not a time paradox. How often do users tell ta that? And low godly doesnt prevent existence erasure.
 
682 has also adapted to eat planets as a whole, eating a planet's worth of sand wont be hard
 
Period of time weekly? Gotta have time franes for this type of claim.

Also i noticed that the link said "consumed" kars wouldnt actively destroy the mind. Hed remove it and thatd be that and seeing as he cant regenerate if it wasnt destroyed...
 
Nigh instantly

Yes if 682's 1-B consciousness is destroyed he cant regenerate. Kars isnt deatroying a 1-B consciousness any time soon
 
He adapted to eat a planet from his baseline high 8 within an instant? Evidence.

No shit weekly. Youre completely changing what the discussion was about. Unless ya mean or are implying the 3D reptile has a 1-B mind. Which sounds a tad fishy from things ya have claimed before. Plus didnt claimkars would destroy the mind. Only remove the mind which goes full circle and brings ya and me back to my previous point.

And that still has zero bearing on the fact kars gets a free hour of figuring what exactly the monster can do and adapt a way to incapacitated.

Excluding the fact d4c would work fine because 1. Scp doesnt have midgodly meaning his higher d would have bring him or heal him within an hour. And two acausuality wont prevent d4c paradoxing. Its not a time oaradix (multiple users have told ya that by now) and its a power enforced by d4c.
 
@TheJ-ManRequiem What do you mean "he can understand at a glance"? Can Kars tell people's abilities just through a glance?

Oh, I didn't realize Kars could do that. Even then, good luck removing a 1-B consciousness.

PIS isn't really accepted for reasoning in battles. Such as goku getting hurt by a rock, or the various superheroes/villains that have been taken down by human-tiers when they're usually way above that.

682 has resistance to existence erasure, and can attack while erased from existence.

682 grew to planet-sized from baseline in a near instant in its fight with 2722, and in what I believe to be a probably not canon termination involving this SCP detailed here where it regenerated from 0.03 milliliters of blood to the size of Saturn.
 
http://www.scp-wiki.net/experiment-log-t-98816-oc108-682

Item: SCP-2305-A

Tissue Test Record: N/A

Termination Test Record: An SCP-2305-A instance generated involving SCP-682, and has been transcribed here by order of O5-ÔûêÔûê. Item #: SCP-682

Object Class: Keter

Proposed Neutralization Method: OPERATION FAIL-SAFE-TANGA-34 would be enacted upon successful removal of approximately 90% of SCP-682's body mass, while incapacitated in a space shuttle that has been set to land on the Moon. OPERATION FAIL-SAFE-TANGA-34 consists of the following procedures:

1): 20,200,500,000 RDS-220 hydrogen bombs and 750 SCP-2195-1 instances will be transported to the Moon, spread out across the surface. It will be detonated with 10 separate inputs at Site-19. Materials for bombs would be generated from SCP-2400 and collected stillbirths for SCP-2195-1 instances.

2): 300 Tilda/Cimmerian Reality Vacuum Attachments have been attached in an hexagonal pattern on the Moon, with approximately 35 km of space between each one. TCRVAs will maintain the explosions occurring on the Moon to prevent any debris from hitting Earth.

3): Area-0-TANGA has been constructed 4,000 km into the Earth and currently houses a large spheroid approximately the size of the Moon, constructed from SCP-2400 materials. SCP-1056 will be used to lower the size of the spheroid for easier transportation.

4): Amnestics would be administered to approximately 80% of the human population after detonation through use of a modified RED TALISMAN algorithm to produce non-lethal cognitive hazardous amnestics. Amnestics will be applied to every source of common media, such as newspapers, television, billboards and several popular internet sites.

Result of Neutralization Attempt: Once the weakened SCP-682 arrived at the Moon's surface, all explosives were detonated. The TCRVAs successfully dampen most of the explosion, but 150 large meteorites still land on Earth. Spheroid was successfully transported to the Moon's orbit field and grown to its original size. Amnestics were successfully administered to approximately 78% of the Human population. However, 0.03 milliliters of blood belonging to SCP-682 survived the termination attempt, and adapted from it. SCP-682 grows to approximately the size of Saturn, and proceeds to destroy and eat multiple planets within the Solar System.

"The moral of the story:" This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang, but a chomp. But for reals, don't **** with the gecko. >:(
 
Important note on that, coming from 2305's page.

SCP-2305 has no effect on reality; all documented neutralization attempts appear to be completely fictional. However, if an attempt is made at neutralizing the SCP object subject to 2305-A documentation using the method described, said attempt will fail in a near-identical fashion as described in the 2305-A documentation.
 
682's 1-B mind and immortalities is the reason we got a rule to ban them in the first place
 
Essentially. More or less and copy the powers and resistances also.

Pis cant be pis if its the most consistent thing about the character. And seeing as most of. his feats don't have canon time frames...

Fair enough but "dubiously canon" makes me question the validity.

Mate d4c paradoxing is a means to an end. Its merger sponging. The end result does end with existence erasure though. And thats assuming kars doesnt evolve past the resistance. How good is the resustance. Because he does have a free hour of adapting and evolving for the sake of incapacitation on scp .
 
Agnaa said:
Important note on that, coming from 2305's page.
SCP-2305 has no effect on reality; all documented neutralization attempts appear to be completely fictional. However, if an attempt is made at neutralizing the SCP object subject to 2305-A documentation using the method described, said attempt will fail in a near-identical fashion as described in the 2305-A documentation.
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So the fact that it is a fictional account doesn't change the fact that it is what would happen if they tried to do that to 682

Wow, 2305 is useful AF. Does the Foundation use it often?
 
Mate d4c paradoxing is a means to an end. Its merger sponging. The end result does end with existence erasure though. And thats assuming kars doesnt evolve past the resistance. How good is the resustance. Because he does have a free hour of adapting and evolving for the sake of incapacitation on scp .

Kars can somehow evolve himself to make a law of the universe better than it already is?

I doubt that.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Kars can somehow evolve himself to make a law of the universe better than it already is?

I doubt that.
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Cool. Thats not how that works within the novel. D4c enforces the merger sponging as shown when the funniest can paradox funny utilizing the funnys obtained from his d4c and vice versa.

Once again monarch. If ya have zero idea of what youre talking about dont act as though its fact.
 
682 also resists existence erasure and has regenerated from it before so no, Merging wont beat 682
 
It's not really all that consistent. 682 is consistently capable of breaking out of containment at a whim. Most of the time he just doesn't for whatever reason.

The thing with that termination attempt is that IU it's completely fictional, but if it were to be attempted as described it would happen.

Sure, but like I said, even if it does end with existence erasure 682 has insane resistance to it and can attack while erased.

Why does Kars get a free hour of adapting and evolving? What would that even do?

Also it seems like a but of an NLF to say that Kars can just evolve past the resistance if he's never shown to nullify existence erasure resistance on that level before. All of 682's resistance and adaptation feats are based on things that he's already done, he's not assumed to be able to do more than that.

It could have taken one year, but usually if nothing happens in some period of time with these 682 termination logs, they assume nothing will and pack everything up and end the test. Also, below is the other log of 682 becoming planet-sized.

Item: SCP-2722

Tissue Test Record: N/A

Termination Test Record: SCP-682 exposed to SCP-2722. The wielders of the ship were quickly secured by the use of the ship's lockdown measure, and are ordered to try and use any of the methods available to them in an attempt to terminate 682. With the use of SCP-2722's reality bending ability, the ship is teleported to the ÔûêÔûêÔûêÔûêÔûêÔûêÔûêÔûê-ÔûêÔûê star system in the Andromeda Galaxy in the Local Group. SCP-2722's subatomic-destruction sphere is immediately fired at SCP-682, seemingly annihilating the subject, but it was shown to adapt and regenerate overtime. SCP-682 adapts its size in order to match SCP-2722's own, and suddenly attacks the ship at velocities too fast for SCP-2722's radars to detect, throwing the ship off the bounds of the star system and across the galaxy in seconds, with SCP-682 following quickly after. However, the forcefield around SCP-2722 withstands the attack. The wielders are instructed to try and fire 2722's grand wave motion cannon at the subject, which is immediately accomplished by the ship. The beam hits 682's shell and dashes past the galaxy, violently impacting against the constellation of Cassiopeia and reducing it to atomic bonds.

The remnants of SCP-682's body are instructed to be collected by OTF 7 ("Rama Repairmen") as the ship uses the ability of reality bending to return to the Earth. The termination is deemed a failure, as SCP-682 regenerated from the blast approximately [DATA REDACTED] hours later inside its cell.
 
>he resists. >He regenerated.

A bit contradictory wekly. Also time frame. Also scp resisted merger sponging when? Its a means to an end. Ya can have mind hax endurance but not resust all variants of hax of the mind or methods. The same goes here and ya should be well aware of that.
 
Yes, 682 has done both

Merger Sponging is existence erasure via paradoxing. Resistance to existence erasure, acausality, Regenerationn, and his 1-B immortalitiy would bring 682 back.
 
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